It was mentioned at the season seat holders signing event that those 4000 spots being built by Katz will not be ready until the 3rd season in Rogers Place.
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Somebody here is taking this much too seriously. If it counts for anything Section 337, I laughed. I was going to recommend an igloo roof but I got frightened that "someone" would say that it would not be effective in the summer.
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Prices may go up from where they are now in downtown but there is also A LOT more parking which means competition. More people going downtown is a good thing, this adds vibrancy and energy which in turn brings people's money downtown and stimulates growth.
You say other business will get the shaft? More like they will benefit, restaurants, bars, hotels, etc will all benefit by having another 15,000-20,000 people near them for 150-200 nights a year. Why do you think businesses are clamouring for spots near the arena to build restaurants, bars, condos, etc? They know that people are going to spend time and money before and after games which benefits everyone and having your parking rate increase a little is a fair trade. One could argue that bringing in 4,000 more stalls will cause a drop in parking rates as it floods the market with more product (note that the City Centre mall is also adding 300+ stalls as well)
At any rate, there will be 13,500+ stalls within a 10 minute/800 m walk of the arena (4,000 being built by Katz), more than double that there is at Rexall and a lot will be covered/underground parking (much better and closer than the current parking).
http://icedistrictproperties.com/news/maps-graphics.html
People will also live and work near the arena negating the need to drive to the game/park as they will already be near the arena/can walk to the game. This is also true for out of town guest that are already staying downtown at hotels. There will also be more mass transit links to get to the game, especially once the Millwoods line is completed resulting in even less people needing to drive to the game.
I think parking on the east side of downtown near the Citadel, AGA, Winspear, etc won't be affected as much as they are on the further side (1 km away and outside the 13,500+ stalls mentioned above). Businesses and people will need to adjust at the beginning to see what works but I can't see everyone jacking their prices too much as there is simply too much supply and other means of transportation to get to the events.
I think you bring up some excellent points and I'm going to say I really hope you are 100% correct on all of this. A vibrant, exciting downtown is beneficial to everyone and I really, really hope it is realized. Put some of the politics from the arena deal aside, maybe the city could've spent less or got more from Katz, the deal is here and Edmonton benefits from it succeeding. Hopefully the "I told you so" people will be silenced in the coming years because of the excellence that downtown Edmonton offers.
The one thing I'd caution you against is how wonderful all these people will be downtown. It COULD be good, there's no denying that.
This is a blog post on a Washington Post article during the 2012 London Olympics. If you'd ever dreamed of going to London but always felt the tourist attractions would be too packed during the summer months you missed a great opportunity to see London in 2012...
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2012/08/02/3614/london-olympics-nobody-goes-there-its-too-crowded/
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Interesting article. It does talk about how new visitors during events displace other tourists, though, and I don't think that's an issue with Edmonton's downtown. The trouble now is people aren't going to Edmonton's downtown at all. What's really going to help the downtown is all the condos being built as a result of the arena being a catalyst for making people want to live there.
If anything does suffer, I think it'll be something like West Edmonton Mall -- kind of the opposite effect from when WEM was built.
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yeah i think most people agree with this.... if the ice district *does* turn out to be a big draw, its going to negatively affect other places in edmonton
as a person who doesn't live in edmonton though, i couldn't be happier that i'll be able to just go to one place (downtown) and take in a game without having to drive, take the LRT, etc
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If it didn't happen in the 80's, it didn't happen
Which would be hilarious since (someone correct me if I'm wrong) Oil Kings tickets are already among the highest in the WHL.
After going last night to see The Revenant WEM could probably benefit from a little less wind in its sail. A few less people allows some room to breathe and might help make a few more sales.
Downtown is slowly turning and if the arena helps it'll be most evident during the spring, summer and fall months. If there's a weekday game in January next year with weather like this I think the crowds will be more hit and run than hanging out after.
I may be wrong but prices for loge seats include Oil kings. I wonder how many of those will appear on the secondary markets and what they'll be charging.
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Anybody else hear about Bettman saying Rogers place will be open Canada day 2017? Was on twitter @Oilers1966 said it
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According to this link he did say it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/gary-bettman-calgarynext-chamber-commerce-1.3398581
I hope he was misquoted or wrong. I'm still hoping the Oilers start next season in Roger's place, not the following one.
Looks like Biltmore was right after all, they should have sealed the roof a lot sooner as it has flooded!!
http://www.rogersplace.com/rogers-place-live-view-3/
http://www.rogersplace.com/rogers-place-live-view-3/
Must be misquoted or wrong. Although it would be perfect Oilers to have this whole farewell Rexall business and then come back next year haha.
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Looks like Biltmore was right after all, they should have sealed the roof a lot sooner as it has flooded!!
http://www.rogersplace.com/rogers-place-live-view-3/
what the hell is that? lol
looks like a swimming pool. they aren't actually putting ice in yet right?
does that matter?
Yes, I believe this is a leak test. Doesn't look like any water seepage evidence from any of the live views.
Looks like Biltmore was right after all, they should have sealed the roof a lot sooner as it has flooded!!
http://www.rogersplace.com/rogers-place-live-view-3/
Tough to say for sure, but those lower bowl seating rows look permanent. Are they not meant to be removable/retractable?
Rumor has it that an announcement is scheduled for January 13th, most likely the naming/franchise of the new luxury hotel going in. Right now it sounds like it will be a JW Marriott which would make it only the second one in Canada nearing the top end of their brand (not quite as high as their Carleton-Ritz brand).
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