Rochester Amerks/Elmira Jackals Thread-2014-2015 Season-Part II

[LaxSabre]

Game Recap - Former Amerk Helps Griffins Win Overtime Thriller - Amerks.com - Friday, February 6.

Nathan Paetsch’s second goal of the game just 2:03 into overtime lifted the Grand Rapids Griffins to a 5-4 win over the visiting Rochester Americans Friday night at Van Andel Arena. Despite the loss, the Amerks gain a valuable point in the AHL’s North Division standings and brings Rochester’s overall record to 19-26-2-0 heading into Saturday’s rematch with the Griffins.

Johan Larsson finished with a team-high three points (2+1), including the game-tying goal that came with 1:58 left in regulation that would ultimately force overtime. Jerry D’Amigo and Brodie Reid also scored for the Amerks while rookie defenseman Jake McCabe recorded two assists and Phil Varone added an assist for his team-leading 36th point of the season. Andrey Makarov got the nod for the third time in four games and finished with 26 saves on 31 shots.

The Griffins were led offensively by three-point efforts from both Paetsch (2+1) and the AHL’s leading scorer Teemu Pulkkinen, who scored once and helped set up two others to push his point streak to six games. Mitch Callahan and Andy Miele each recorded two assists in the win, which also featured goals from Jeff Hoggan and Scott Czarnowczan. Grand Rapids goaltender Jared Coreau, the reigning CCM/AHL Player of the Week, also made 26 saves on the night, helping the Griffins move within two points of second place in the Midwest Division.

Rest Of The Game Recap - http://www.amerks.com/recap.asp?gameID=20150206

Boxscore-Game Sheet - Griffins 5 Amerks 4 (OT) - Friday, February 6 - TheAHL.com - http://theahl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=1014142

 

[sabrebuild]

I'm happy that Lemieux keeps racking up pp goals and hope he turns out. And the endless repetition of the pp goals don't count, though taken out of context is always funny, but the lack of assists continues to support the concern that he is limited offensively.

 

[Beerz]

I'm happy that Lemieux keeps racking up pp goals and hope he turns out. And the endless repetition of the pp goals don't count, though taken out of context is always funny, but the lack of assists continues to support the concern that he is limited offensively.

Of course he's limited. He's not a playmaker... that's not his game. I don't know why it would concern anyone tho.

 

[sabrebuild]

Of course he's limited. He's not a playmaker... that's not his game. I don't know why it would concern anyone tho.

I'm not rehashing that argument cuz this isn't the place, but as it relates to Lemieux. It's not about him being a playmaker, it's about him being an effective offensive player anywhere besides the pp. There's just not a lot of evidence that shows a guy like him translating that offense to the NHL. its not just the lack of assists, its the lack of es scoring in general. again I hope he makes it to the show but for the people putting it out there that it will be as pp guy, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

[Beerz]

I'm not rehashing that argument cuz this isn't the place, but as it relates to Lemieux. It's not about him being a playmaker, it's about him being an effective offensive player anywhere besides the pp. There's just not a lot of evidence that shows a guy like him translating that offense to the NHL. its not just the lack of assists, its the lack of es scoring in general. again I hope he makes it to the show but for the people putting it out there that it will be as pp guy, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Well ...here's to hoping that we're so skilled that he doesn't see a lick of PP time. That's certainly not my expectation for him.

 

[sabrebuild]

Well ...here's to hoping that we're so skilled that he doesn't see a lick of PP time. That's certainly not my expectation for him.

Me too, and I think we will be without a doubt. He would have to climb guaranteed guys like McEichel, Girgs, Reinhart, Ennis, Moulson, probably Armia and whatever top six vet we bring in.

Not saying you have said that recently, but it has been brought up by others. Mostly I find it funny that the pp goals don't count joke continues, because it is a lesser version of people taking plus minus seriously, except the media hasn't hammered that point home yet. Oh well, maybe in a few years.

 

[LaxSabre]

Prospects Recap - Friday, February 6 - Tip Drill For Lemeiux - Kris Baker @SabresProspects - SabresProspects.com

OHL - Brendan Lemieux capped a two-goal Friday by scoring the game-winner with 4:03 to play as Barrie held on for a 5-4 victory Mississauga.
The markers both came while on the power play, upping Lemieux's league-leading total to 22 with the man advantage.
Lemieux has 35 goals in 45 games this season with 18 dates remaining on the regular season schedule.

OHL - Nick Baptiste scored his club's only goal, his 19th of the year, as Erie dropped a 6-1 home-ice decision to Sault Ste. Marie.
Baptiste now has points in six straight games.
Justin Bailey was kept off the score sheet while Jean Dupuy remained out of the lineup with an injury - for the Hounds.

WHL - Brycen Martin notched a pair of assists as Saskatoon lost to Regina 5-2.
Martin now has points in five straight games and a total of 12 (3+9) in 10 games since joining the Blades.

QMJHL - Vaclav Karabacek scored his 14th goal of the year as Baie-Comeau defeated Drummondville 3-1.
Karabacek has collected 31 points this season, including three goals and three assists in 13 games with the Drakkar.

Rest Of The Recap - http://www.sabresprospects.com/2015/02/26-recap-tip-drill-for-lemieux.html

 

[LaxSabre]

Game Preview - Amerks Remain In Grand Rapids For Final Meeting With Griffins - Amerks.com - Saturday, February 7.

Tonights Game - The Rochester Americans and Grand Rapids Griffins return to action tonight as the former North Division rivals square off for the second straight night in the back-end of a two-game set at Van Andel Arena. The 7:00 pm ET matchup will be the fourth and final meeting between the two teams this season and will be carried LIVE on FOX Sports 1280 AM Rochester.

Rest Of The Game Preview - http://www.amerks.com/preview.asp?gameID=20150207

@RSandersonWHTK - Former #Amerks RW headed to Lake Erie -
MT @DougPlagens - Shawn Szydlowski signed PTO with @monstershockey. He's leading @FWKomets with 21G-45PTS-38GP.

 

[OcAirlines]

How has Makarov been doing recently? Seems like he is giving up a lot goals but that doesn't necessarily have to mean anything of course, given the performances of the team in front of him...

 

[sabrefan27]

Very average. He's not really a starter in this league. At least not for a playoff bound team.

 

[Zip15]

So if the Sabres don't get Hackett 7+ more games (allowing him to become UFA)--still possible, depending on what they do with Enroth/Neuvirth before the deadline--and Lieuwen is done with his concussion history, I guess it's Ullmark and Makarov competing for the job in Rochester next year?

 

[ottawah]

I'm happy that Lemieux keeps racking up pp goals and hope he turns out. And the endless repetition of the pp goals don't count, though taken out of context is always funny, but the lack of assists continues to support the concern that he is limited offensively.

Potentially, yes but it is important to remember at the CHL level players may have certain roles that are built around what a team needs most and can use. It is possible that Lemieux has been instructed to play a certain way because it benefits the team more.

I'd argue case in point that most of the NHL's better known defensive players did not do that in the CHL to a large extent, and that the bets known defensive players at the CHL level did not make it to the NHL. Its a factor of what the team needs.

If the Barrie coach says spend half your game in front of the net banging in rebounds on the PP, thats what is showing up on the score sheet.

Now I certainly wouldn't suggest Lemeiux is going to be a passing genius, but I do like his overall game, and believe if he makes it to the NHL, it will be because of a more all round game he is currently not displaying.

 

[sabrebuild]

Potentially, yes but it is important to remember at the CHL level players may have certain roles that are built around what a team needs most and can use. It is possible that Lemieux has been instructed to play a certain way because it benefits the team more.

I'd argue case in point that most of the NHL's better known defensive players did not do that in the CHL to a large extent, and that the bets known defensive players at the CHL level did not make it to the NHL. Its a factor of what the team needs.

If the Barrie coach says spend half your game in front of the net banging in rebounds on the PP, thats what is showing up on the score sheet.

Now I certainly wouldn't suggest Lemeiux is going to be a passing genius, but I do like his overall game, and believe if he makes it to the NHL, it will be because of a more all round game he is currently not displaying.

I'm not sure what his role on the pp has to do with how he doesn't have similar success during even strength. I don't think a coach has ever told a player, score more at pp than you do in the vast majority of the rest of the game. Just as a general point, a junior player in his post draft year who scores a lot on pp, but not at es, raises a red flag that says a lot more about Barrie's coach giving him great opportunity on the pp, and when he has to play at es he can't do it to anywhere near the same degree. So if anything I would say coaching is actually making him look better than he is, rather than the other way around.

I'm not sure what your point about his defense is, cuz that's not what we were talking about. But if he makes it to the NHL it will be because he fights and hits, not because he has a quality all around game. If that was why the Sabres drafted him there were better options.

 

[joshjull]

@SabresProspects: Brycen Martin loving the new role after trade to Saskatoon. Two helpers tonight, points in five straight, 3+9 in 10 games with the Blades.

Any idea what his "new role" is with his new team? He's certainly been pretty productive.

 

[Beerz]

I'm not sure what his role on the pp has to do with how he doesn't have similar success during even strength. I don't think a coach has ever told a player, score more at pp than you do in the vast majority of the rest of the game. Just as a general point, a junior player in his post draft year who scores a lot on pp, but not at es, raises a red flag that says a lot more about Barrie's coach giving him great opportunity on the pp, and when he has to play at es he can't do it to anywhere near the same degree. So if anything I would say coaching is actually making him look better than he is, rather than the other way around.

I'm not sure what your point about his defense is, cuz that's not what we were talking about. But if he makes it to the NHL it will be because he fights and hits, not because he has a quality all around game. If that was why the Sabres drafted him there were better options.

No but it may have to do with how he approaches the game. Scoring may not be his role or #1 priority when it comes to ES... it may be simply to cause havoc and be an ass and when the PP arrives he shifts focus. If that is the reason for the discrepancy in ES to PP goals it's a pretty correctable issue. The fact that he can deflect shots and bang home rebounds on the PP should be looked at as a positive not a negative. And there is no reason to believe that it can't translate to ES if that is what he focuses on. I don't see many Red Wing fans complaining that over half of Nyquists goals have come on the PP this year.

 

[dire wolf]

So if the Sabres don't get Hackett 7+ more games (allowing him to become UFA)--still possible, depending on what they do with Enroth/Neuvirth before the deadline--and Lieuwen is done with his concussion history, I guess it's Ullmark and Makarov competing for the job in Rochester next year?

I have a feeling there will be a trade or signing that will impact that situation

 

[Revelate]

@SabresProspects: Brycen Martin loving the new role after trade to Saskatoon. Two helpers tonight, points in five straight, 3+9 in 10 games with the Blades.

Any idea what his "new role" is with his new team? He's certainly been pretty productive.

Best defenseman on the team. Big minutes, power play time, etc.

 

[JLewyB]

I'm not sure what his role on the pp has to do with how he doesn't have similar success during even strength. I don't think a coach has ever told a player, score more at pp than you do in the vast majority of the rest of the game. Just as a general point, a junior player in his post draft year who scores a lot on pp, but not at es, raises a red flag that says a lot more about Barrie's coach giving him great opportunity on the pp, and when he has to play at es he can't do it to anywhere near the same degree. So if anything I would say coaching is actually making him look better than he is, rather than the other way around.

I'm not sure what your point about his defense is, cuz that's not what we were talking about. But if he makes it to the NHL it will be because he fights and hits, not because he has a quality all around game. If that was why the Sabres drafted him there were better options.

His shot release is what pops out. It's translatable to the NHL.

 

[Savitar]

Eric Cornel scores his 13th of the season

 

[Savitar]

Baptiste has his 20th

 

[ZeroPT*]

I finally caught Martin. He's great.

 

[stokes84]

Points in 5 straight for McCabe? Things are looking up.

 

[sabrebuild]

No but it may have to do with how he approaches the game. Scoring may not be his role or #1 priority when it comes to ES... it may be simply to cause havoc and be an ass and when the PP arrives he shifts focus. If that is the reason for the discrepancy in ES to PP goals it's a pretty correctable issue. The fact that he can deflect shots and bang home rebounds on the PP should be looked at as a positive not a negative. And there is no reason to believe that it can't translate to ES if that is what he focuses on. I don't see many Red Wing fans complaining that over half of Nyquists goals have come on the PP this year.

It's an incredible stretch to think a junior coach is telling one of his best players to not score es, because he is to busy causing havoc... If that is his strategy he should be fired.

Huge difference between a guy producing at the NHL level on the pp and a guy doing it in junior. Nyquist for example wasn't some pp specialist below the NHL level, he was a talented overall offensive player.

 

[sabrebuild]

His shot release is what pops out. It's translatable to the NHL.

I'd agree. Unfortunately I think nhl shooting is one of the most common traits that nhl prospects have. I haven't noticed his release being exceptional but it certainly is one of his strong suits.

 

[Beerz]

It's an incredible stretch to think a junior coach is telling one of his best players to not score es, because he is to busy causing havoc... If that is his strategy he should be fired.

Huge difference between a guy producing at the NHL level on the pp and a guy doing it in junior. Nyquist for example wasn't some pp specialist below the NHL level, he was a talented overall offensive player.

I wasn't talking about the coach.