Lol, yeah, idk, You're digging a hole deep. Not understanding your Mantha "hate". Mantha's not garbage either and Ristolainen isn't that good. He's not bad either but wow, he's never going to compete for a Norris or anything like that. If he was that good, Buffalo wouldn't mind keeping a multi-year signed 24/25 year old RHD on a rebuilding/rebuilt team. He's over-paid an essentially a power play specialist. It's not the same situation with Trouba where he wasn't signed and didn't wanna stay. I wouldn't mind trading for Ristolainen. He'd help, he's young, but I'm not giving up Mantha for him. I can get a lot more than that if we're talking about moving Mantha for good defensemen. I mean really, if we're moving Mantha it better be for a great defensemen, not for a guy that'll barely move the needle on our team. Ristolainen is to me a player a playoff team adds to put them over the top, not a guy you build your team/defense around. Real names like Seth Jones/ John Klingberg/ Aaron Ekblad/ Dougie Hamilton/ Torey Krug. Names like that. I'm not convinced Risto is a guy you build the foundation of a defense on/around and a trade involing Mantha(with more) will need that type of return to make sense of why we have no top scoring RW's on the team after him.