#Rinne4Vezina...habs lose 3-2 OT

[Habs]

Are the local pro hockey players giving Galchenyuk tips on how to hold the stick now? Fantastic.

How can anyone complain about that game? They actually played really well, they battled really hard.

 

[Gustave]

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2012e.html

Who else did you want, exactly?

I got who I wanted. He's already a good player. That's not up for debate, however his current cold streak is maddening.

That puck needed to put in the back of the net. But he's lost right now and he's not pulling his weight. I can't imagine anyone liking what they're seeing from him right now.

No one is above criticism. I'm definitely not hoping for a trade demotion or other senseless movement. I'm just observing what he's doing right now.

As for the winger or centre bit, he has spent more time on the wing then any other position. Also, centre or winger, can't miss that open net...

 

[LaP]

if I recall correctly he made a big bang the first couple of games and then it faded away

He did fade away. He had 2 points +0 in his last 6 games as center. But i've always been a supporter of evaluating players based on the whole picture and not the last few games. All first line centers have droughts. Many ups and downs in a season few players can be like Price this year.

Crosby had 2 points in 6 games from january 20 to february 4.
Kopitar had 2 points in 9 games from november 20 to december 9
Toews had 1 points in 7 games from january 21 to february 8

DD had many droughts too. Usually it takes more than 6 games for him to be removed from the first line. Even more to be removed from center.

He had 3 points -3 in 9 games from march 2 to march 17. He was removed from first line after the first 8 games of this sequence but was still centering the 2nd line and he was put back on first line after 2 games where he did not do much.

Yes Galchenyuk faded away for 6 games but overall he still had 9 points in 11 games as a center and the team was still winning (team was 4-2 in those 6 games and scored 2.67 goals on average). MT could have waited another 4-5 games for his overall stats as center to be bad before removing him. He pulled the plug early imo.

I'm sure guys like Toews, Crosby and Kopitar had droughts the first year they played as center. I don't even have to check i know they had. What is important is the overall picture. Galchenyuk had 9 points in 11 games. That's the only thing that matters to me. How he got those i don't really care. I think MT should have gave him the opportunity to prove he could sustain this production.

 

[Tourist]

Good game between 2 pretty evenly matched teams.

We committed a few totally unforced errors and terrible pinches but in the end, the win could have gone either way. Felt like the Preds had a little more puck luck.

 

[Cashville]

Our beat writer put out this GIF; figured you may want it since Price nonchalantly made a stupid amazing save

 

[Habsawce]

How many years are we going to have to watch Galchenyuk at wing? You can't keep him there too long or he'll never be a centreman, enough is enough.

 

[Gamimenos]

Shouldn't have gone to OT. Block the shot or GTFO of the way.

 

[Justin11]

How many years are we going to have to watch Galchenyuk at wing? You can't keep him there too long or he'll never be a centreman, enough is enough.

I agree 100%

 

[LaP]

How many years are we going to have to watch Galchenyuk at wing? You can't keep him there too long or he'll never be a centreman, enough is enough.

For this year it's too late. Gotta live or die with DD. But i sure hope next year he gonna start as a center.

 

[Treb]

For this year it's too late. Gotta live or die with DD. But i sure hope next year he gonna start as a center.

We said that last year too

 

[LaP]

We said that last year too

Personally it's the last time i say it. Next year if DD is still centering our best wingers i'll have to start blaming Bergy for it.

 

[montreal]

How many years are we going to have to watch Galchenyuk at wing? You can't keep him there too long or he'll never be a centreman, enough is enough.

why is that?

 

[Tabarouette]

He did fade away. He had 2 points +0 in his last 6 games as center. But i've always been a supporter of evaluating players based on the whole picture and not the last few games. All first line centers have droughts. Many ups and downs in a season few players can be like Price this year.

Crosby had 2 points in 6 games from january 20 to february 4.
Kopitar had 2 points in 9 games from november 20 to december 9
Toews had 1 points in 7 games from january 21 to february 8

DD had many droughts too. Usually it takes more than 6 games for him to be removed from the first line. Even more to be removed from center.

He had 3 points -3 in 9 games from march 2 to march 17. He was removed from first line after the first 8 games of this sequence but was still centering the 2nd line and he was put back on first line after 2 games where he did not do much.

Yes Galchenyuk faded away for 6 games but overall he still had 9 points in 11 games as a center and the team was still winning (team was 4-2 in those 6 games and scored 2.67 goals on average). MT could have waited another 4-5 games for his overall stats as center to be bad before removing him. He pulled the plug early imo.

I'm sure guys like Toews, Crosby and Kopitar had droughts the first year they played as center. I don't even have to check i know they had. What is important is the overall picture. Galchenyuk had 9 points in 11 games. That's the only thing that matters to me. How he got those i don't really care. I think MT should have gave him the opportunity to prove he could sustain this production.

so I did remember correctly!

but yeah I agree for the most part. Maybe remove him from his #1 center position for 1/2/3 game to shake him up and then test him again...

 

[LaP]

why is that?

Cause you can't learn to win faceoffs while not practicing it and learning to win faceoffs can take as much as 2-3 years. Same for the defensive play. It can take as much as 3 years to learn to be a good center (not talking about the offensive side of it) and you don't learn that from the wings. Price and Patch don't get younger.

 

[CanadianODST]

I'd like to thank Pleks for giving Ekholm a highlight reel goal.

 

[montreal]

Cause you can't learn to win faceoffs while not practicing it and learning to win faceoffs can take as much as 2-3 years. Same for the defensive play. It can take as much as 3 years to learn to be a good center (not talking about the offensive side of it) and you don't learn that from the wings. Price and Patch don't get younger.

do you know if he's not practicing face-offs now? Even if he's not who's to say how long it would take him to learn since he has been a center for most of his life if I recall correctly. Galchenyuk turned 21 last month, it's not like he doesn't have a long time in the NHL ahead of him baring career ending injuries.

I think some put too much stock in Galchenyuk must be a center now. As long as he continues to develop his offensive game, that's all I care about.

 

[Habsawce]

why is that?

I'm concerned with him losing his instincts at centre. He missed an entire year of development from the knee surgery and then played half an OHL season before going to MTL and playing wing for 3 years.

I understand wanting to bring him into the pro game at wing to acclimate himself, but it's year 3. There's no good reason for him to still be on wing. It's not like the team has Getzlaf and Kesler blocking him. He's easily the most talented centreman on the team, yet still at wing when the team lacks creative and offense. It makes very little, if not zero, sense still have him on wing.

do you know if he's not practicing face-offs now? Even if he's not who's to say how long it would take him to learn since he has been a center for most of his life if I recall correctly. Galchenyuk turned 21 last month, it's not like he doesn't have a long time in the NHL ahead of him baring career ending injuries.

I think some put too much stock in Galchenyuk must be a center now. As long as he continues to develop his offensive game, that's all I care about.

He's stagnated at wing IMO. It's not just the current slump, but he's losing creativity at that position and becoming too much of a north-south player when that's not his strength.

 

[CanadianODST]

I'm concerned with him losing his instincts at centre. He missed an entire year of development from the knee surgery and then played half an OHL season before going to MTL and playing wing for 3 years.

I understand wanting to bring him into the pro game at wing to acclimate himself, but it's year 3. There's no good reason for him to still be on wing. It's not like the team has Getzlaf and Kesler blocking him. He's easily the most talented centreman on the team, yet still at wing when the team lacks creative and offense. It makes very little, if not zero, sense still have him on wing.

He won't be moved until he starts producing again, this slump is killer right now.

 

[Habsawce]

He won't be moved until he starts producing again, this slump is killer right now.

I think it's more of he won't be moved until Bergevin either makes teh room for him by moving people, or removes the coach. I cannot imagine he's overly pleased with him still being at wing, but he has too much faith in the coaches and doesn't want to meddle.

Especially after having to do it a couple times already this season.

 

[Bryson]

For this year it's too late. Gotta live or die with DD. But i sure hope next year he gonna start as a center.

I disagree. Galchenyuk was nearly PPG while centering Pacioretty. Desharnais has had 3 years to prove himself, last year centering two 40 goal scorers. This year he only has one and we have the lowest offense of all the playoff teams and it's not even close.

Live or die by Galchenyuk or Eller. Anybody but DD.

 

[SB164]

Some idiot Habs fan actually made a thread on the main boards saying this is the worst team of the top teams of the league?

Embarrassing , as if the Habs don't get enough hate on here.

 

[Habsawce]

Some idiot Habs fan actually made a thread on the main boards saying this is the worst team of the top teams of the league?

Embarrassing , as if the Habs don't get enough hate on here.

I'd rather read that, than another Subban bashing to try and make Karlsson look better.

 

[HabsFan76]

Some idiot Habs fan actually made a thread on the main boards saying this is the worst team of the top teams of the league?

Embarrassing , as if the Habs don't get enough hate on here.

Wasn't that thread started by a Leafs fan, who basically said that Montreal = Leafs with better goaltending and that without Price we would be in a lottery position? Unless another thread of the same type was created afterwards.

 

[Analyzer*]

I'd like to thank Pleks for giving Ekholm a highlight reel goal.

Did he tell Subban and Markov to circle out wide opening up the entire centre of the ice ?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Some idiot Habs fan actually made a thread on the main boards saying this is the worst team of the top teams of the league?

Embarrassing , as if the Habs don't get enough hate on here.

No. That was a Leafs fan.