Remaining CBJ games with no fans? (COVID-19 pandemic thread)

[DarkandStormy]

Yes my 17yr old son works at Giant Eagle . Maybe I’m explaining it poorly, but if it’s safe for high school kids to go to work , if it’s safe for fast food workers to go to work , I don’t want to hear about it’s too dangerous for a group of athletes in probably the top 1% of health in our country to get back to their job as well .

Almost like food is essential and sports aren't. Almost like one can be performed with masks and the other can't.

 

[Monstershockey]

DeSantis pivots on Covid-19 surge, says testing doesn't account for spike

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Yes my 17yr old son works at Giant Eagle . Maybe I’m explaining it poorly, but if it’s safe for high school kids to go to work , if it’s safe for fast food workers to go to work , I don’t want to hear about it’s too dangerous for a group of athletes in probably the top 1% of health in our country to get back to their job as well .

Like I said, I can see how that would be stressful for a family. And yeah you were explaining it poorly because you didn't - until this post - actually say that was the case. Indeed, the rest of your posting, and some I've since deleted, doesn't have anything to do with your personal situation.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

Imma wait for Clay Travis to weigh in on this before I believe it. Media, agenda and all that you know.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Imma wait for Clay Travis to weigh in on this before I believe it. Media, agenda and all that you know.

Any other local media outlets... we're waiting.

 

[JacketsDavid]

It's Toronto I'm pretty sure.

Now I'm hoping they announce it's not Columbus, but it's Flovortown, Ohio as the host city

 

[Long Live Lyle]

We didn’t want it anyway.

 

[Speedy Sanderson]

Rumor is Jeff Carter and Adam Foote are on the hub city committee.

 

[majormajor]

We didn’t want it anyway.

No really. I don't know why we care at all. We're sitting here like some business boosters rooting for some convention to come to town. It has nothing to do with the team.

 

[Long Live Lyle]

No really. I don't know why we care at all. We're sitting here like some business boosters rooting for some convention to come to town. It has nothing to do with the team.

There's an argument that it could potentially be good for free agency, but I could also see it the other way where you have a bunch of guys essentially "locked up" in the city and having to stay in their bubble with nothing to do, and that leads to a bit of resentment toward the city.

 

[Nanabijou]

No really. I don't know why we care at all. We're sitting here like some business boosters rooting for some convention to come to town. It has nothing to do with the team.

Well, I think it's because many of us live here and know that this would have a big economic impact on the city. So, I was hoping it would happen even if the Jackets played in the other hub city.

 

[majormajor]

There's an argument that it could potentially be good for free agency, but I could also see it the other way where you have a bunch of guys essentially "locked up" in the city and having to stay in their bubble with nothing to do, and that leads to a bit of resentment toward the city.

I don't think they'll care about the city one way or the other because they can't explore it at all. Except for Vancouver. You can sit on a balcony in Vancouver and feel like a King. And in Vegas they'll at least get deluxe suites for everyone. If they're locked in they're going to need something more than just hotel rooms.

 

[majormajor]

Well, I think it's because many of us live here and know that this would have a big economic impact on the city. So, I was hoping it would happen even if the Jackets played in the other hub city.

That's true but it's the same stakes with a big convention and we never sweat that stuff.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

No really. I don't know why we care at all. We're sitting here like some business boosters rooting for some convention to come to town. It has nothing to do with the team.

Yeah. I wanted it because I wanted it dammit. And didn't want other cities/teams to get it ... but I have had this question in my mind the entire time though. Seriously, what is the real, tangible benefit? The hotel and carryout restaurant revenue would surely be welcome for local businesses. That's not nothing. But it certainly doesn't feel like this would actually be a big event.

Make us feel good and valued though.

 

[KJ Dangler]

If Columbus had any real shot of being a hub city, that went up in smoke when our incompetent Mayor of Columbus couldnt get his city in order, streets are still being blocked to this day, as well as mobs surrounding cars, intimidating passengers etc. The Nhl I'm sure looks at player saftey as a necessity, as they should . Instead our mayor chose to let the inmates run the asylum, and I'm sure we havent seen the last of it yet.

 

[Nanabijou]

That's true but it's the same stakes with a big convention and we never sweat that stuff.

Well, the All-Star game or Draft location doesn't affect the on-ice product either but there were lots of posts on here about Columbus getting those.

I save my non-hockey posts about Columbus conventions for ConventionFuturesBoards.com

 

[DarkandStormy]

If Columbus had any real shot of being a hub city, that went up in smoke when our incompetent Mayor of Columbus couldnt get his city in order, streets are still being blocked to this day, as well as mobs surrounding cars, intimidating passengers etc. The Nhl I'm sure looks at player saftey as a necessity, as they should . Instead our mayor chose to let the inmates run the asylum, and I'm sure we havent seen the last of it yet.

Every major city continues to have protests. It's not unique to Columbus.

 

[NotWendell]

I don't think we were ever a serious contender for a hub city to begin with. All I know is the NBA and MLS are looking pretty silly right now going with Orlando.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

There's an argument that it could potentially be good for free agency, but I could also see it the other way where you have a bunch of guys essentially "locked up" in the city and having to stay in their bubble with nothing to do, and that leads to a bit of resentment toward the city.

As opposed to going to Vegas where they can go hang out in the casinos and catch Covid. I thought the purpose of being sequestered was keep them away from potential contamination. A city like Toronto or Vegas has tons of things to do and things they probably shouldn't be doing.

 

[majormajor]

As opposed to going to Vegas where they can go hang out in the casinos and catch Covid. I thought the purpose of being sequestered was keep them away from potential contamination. A city like Toronto or Vegas has tons of things to do and things they probably shouldn't be doing.

I think the idea is that the players are basically in group quarantine while in Vegas. They aren't allowed outside of the hotel and arena route. No contacts outside of the bubble are allowed. The accommodations are more than just hotel rooms, it's luxury suites for everyone with a lot of perks and amazing catering. If I have it right, the players haven't signed off on the next stage yet, so the league probably wants to offer them something that sounds better than just being locked in hotel rooms for a month or two.

 

[Long Live Lyle]

As opposed to going to Vegas where they can go hang out in the casinos and catch Covid. I thought the purpose of being sequestered was keep them away from potential contamination. A city like Toronto or Vegas has tons of things to do and things they probably shouldn't be doing.

Actually, the same thing could happen with Vegas, too.* I wasn’t taking a shot at Cbus; my point was that the players will basically be locked into their hotel, so they won’t actually get to see/do stuff around the hub city. They could come to associate the hub with: “the place where my life sucked and I didn’t get to see family and all I did was play hockey and watch TV in my room for two months.”

*Vegas is a bit of a different level though, as it has stuff to do literally in the same buildings/campus the players will be staying at (casinos, shows, etc.). That’s why I think the league is so gung-ho on it being a hub, despite it likely being an awful choice from a Covid outbreak risk perspective and not a particularly great one from a hockey facilities perspective. It’s not that Cbus can’t provide nice shopping or restaurants or entertainment... but it can’t do it in literally the same building the hotel’s in. Vegas can. I think the league is aware a balance is needed between having as little outside world interaction as possible while also at least having some entertainment/things to do in the tight bubble for the players.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Every major city continues to have protests. It's not unique to Columbus.

I live 1 block from the statehouse. There are no safety issues, other than the police going out of control every day or two.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Vegas is much better equipped than Cbus.
As others have said the team would be quarantined - whether that is an entire hotel booked or more than likely most of newer hotels have private floors that are not accessible to general public. Teams could rent out activities (shows), have special pools for the families to enjoy, teams could even rent out restaurants. You could in theory do same thing in Columbus except really no shows or gambling, etc.

Interesting thing I heard discussing baseball in particular if any older coaches or staff will jut sit out the season? They were specifically talking about a guy like Dusty Baker is it even worth it to put his health at risk, and led into some of the other coaches who were 60+ and it sounds like MLB is guaranteeing them a job if they make that decision. So it will be interesting.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Interesting thing I heard discussing baseball in particular if any older coaches or staff will jut sit out the season? They were specifically talking about a guy like Dusty Baker is it even worth it to put his health at risk, and led into some of the other coaches who were 60+ and it sounds like MLB is guaranteeing them a job if they make that decision. So it will be interesting.

Not just baseball.

NBA coaches express concern over the league’s strict guidelines for high risk staffers

The NBA coach’s union is expressing concern over the league’s new guidelines heading up to the restart of the season in Orlando, Florida next month. Specifically, they are saying the ability to bar “high risk” staffers from attending the NBA season’s restart in Orlando, Florida, could “severely jeopardize” their future employment opportunities.

That includes three of the leagues more elder coaches — the Rockets’ Mike D’Antoni (69 years old), Pelicans’ Alvin Gentry (65) and Spurs’ Gregg Popovich (71) — according to NBCA executive director Dave Fogel and president/ Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle.