Real Madrid - Liverpool: CL Final 26th May

[YNWA14]

Mind you, Roma and City fans could have a word as well.

Sure, and this is my point. People will always complain about reffing if the end result doesn't go their way (again, there were plenty of influential non-calls that didn't go Liverpool's way in those ties). The reality is that there is no consistent level of reffing, and as someone who wanted Real Madrid to lose against Juventus I think it's pretty funny that people still don't think that Benatia's 'tackle' was a penalty (it was, unfortunately) or ignore that Real Madrid had a good goal called offside. Real Madrid are not in the final because of reffing (Bayern can only blame themselves for not finishing after outplaying RM, and PSG were just outplayed).

At the end of the day there will be bad calls. Have to play through it and hope it evens out. It is what it is.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Sure, and this is my point. People will always complain about reffing if the end result doesn't go their way (again, there were plenty of influential non-calls that didn't go Liverpool's way in those ties). The reality is that there is no consistent level of reffing, and as someone who wanted Real Madrid to lose against Juventus I think it's pretty funny that people still don't think that Benatia's 'tackle' was a penalty (it was, unfortunately) or ignore that Real Madrid had a good goal called offside. Real Madrid are not in the final because of reffing (Bayern can only blame themselves for not finishing after outplaying RM, and PSG were just outplayed).

At the end of the day there will be bad calls. Have to play through it and hope it evens out. It is what it is.

Geez, you sure you aren’t a Madrid fan?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Sure, and this is my point. People will always complain about reffing if the end result doesn't go their way (again, there were plenty of influential non-calls that didn't go Liverpool's way in those ties). The reality is that there is no consistent level of reffing, and as someone who wanted Real Madrid to lose against Juventus I think it's pretty funny that people still don't think that Benatia's 'tackle' was a penalty (it was, unfortunately) or ignore that Real Madrid had a good goal called offside. Real Madrid are not in the final because of reffing (Bayern can only blame themselves for not finishing after outplaying RM, and PSG were just outplayed).

At the end of the day there will be bad calls. Have to play through it and hope it evens out. It is what it is.

They most definitely are considering the PK. and they won 2 championships because of that but you know f*** facts.

 

[Evilo]

Liverpool fans too

Really? Reffing prevented Liverpool from reaching the final?

 

[The Abusement Park]

Really? Reffing prevented Liverpool from reaching the final?

It didn’t prevent Bayern from getting to the final.

 

[Evilo]

When you get all the favourable calls and barely beat teams, yes, Real reached the final partly thanks to reffing.

 

[Evilo]

It didn’t prevent Bayern from getting to the final.

Really? Marcelo's handball gives Bayern a 3-2 win and a ticket for the final.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Really? Marcelo's handball gives Bayern a 3-2 win and a ticket for the final.

It shouldn’t have come down to one play. Bayern’s finishing was horrific during that tie, they lost it themselves.

 

[Evilo]

And? How does that change the FACT Bayern had an obvious penalty (which would have been the difference) wrongly not called?
It did come down to one play (that often happens with big matches mind you). And as usual, it went Real's way.

 

[The Abusement Park]

And? How does that change the FACT Bayern had an obvious penalty (which would have been the difference) wrongly not called?
It did come down to one play (that often happens with big matches mind you). And as usual, it went Real's way.

I’ve already pointed out how I’m not 100% whether or not Marcelo was in the box or not and how much it would’ve affected the game. If he’s actually outside the box(which it looked like in a screenshot in one of LH’s posts) than it’s not nearly the game changing decision it’s made out to be. I definitely agree that it was a hand ball, but as we saw in the Liverpool tie, handballs are never called consistently.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I’ve already pointed out how I’m not 100% whether or not Marcelo was in the box or not and how much it would’ve affected the game. If he’s actually outside the box(which it looked like in a screenshot in one of LH’s posts) than it’s not nearly the game changing decision it’s made out to be. I definitely agree that it was a hand ball, but as we saw in the Liverpool tie, handballs are never called consistently.

It takes less than 3 seconds to google a clip that he's in the box... at this point you either don't want to see it or just don't care.

 

[Evilo]

How can anyone say he wasn't in the box? Even Marcelo said it was a penalty.

 

[The Abusement Park]

It takes less than 3 seconds to google a clip that he's in the box... at this point you either don't want to see it or just don't care.

He’s right on the edge of the box. I’ve said it could go either way. But whatever.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

How can anyone say he wasn't in the box? Even Marcelo said it was a penalty.

He's going off one picture that Les habs posted... for some odd reason.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He’s right on the edge of the box. I’ve said it could go either way. But whatever.

No he's in the box... it hit his hand which was further away from the ball. It's plain to see.

We went from not a handball to handball but ball to hand and now he wasn't in the box ... lol

 

[The Abusement Park]

No he's in the box... it hit his hand which was further away from the ball. It's plain to see.

We went from not a handball to handball but ball to hand and now he wasn't in the box ... lol

I’ve never said it didn’t hit his hand seriously? My entire argument has been whether he was in the box or not, but you can put words in my mouth if you like.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I’ve never said it didn’t hit his hand seriously? My entire argument has been whether he was in the box or not, but you can put words in my mouth if you like.

Didn't say you did... this board did though. Which is hilarious. I mean we can't even get down that he was in the box.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Didn't say you did... this board did though. Which is hilarious. I mean we can't even get down that he was in the box.

Ok fine I’ll agree with you, I don’t wanna deal with this argument anymore.

 

[Savant]

Really? Reffing prevented Liverpool from reaching the final?

No, my point is that every team has something to complain about

 

[The Abusement Park]

And? How does that change the FACT Bayern had an obvious penalty (which would have been the difference) wrongly not called?
It did come down to one play (that often happens with big matches mind you). And as usual, it went Real's way.

And you’re going to ignore the clearly onside goal that got called back for Real against Juve. Every team in the final 4 has had a calls go against them. Every team that wins the CL has calls that go in their favor and against them, it’s the nature of the beast.

 

[Live in the Now]

And you’re going to ignore the clearly onside goal that got called back for Real against Juve. Every team in the final 4 has had a calls go against them. Every team that wins the CL has calls that go in their favor and against them, it’s the nature of the beast.

Basically and almost all referees are trash. They're way more trash in favor of RM though.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Basically and almost all referees are trash. They're way more trash in favor of RM though.

But just for the last few years right? I mean they went what 15 years without a UCL title, so it makes sense why they started paying refs again.

 

[Live in the Now]

But just for the last few years right? I mean they went what 15 years without a UCL title, so it makes sense why they started paying refs again.

They always favored RM. Problem is the team wasn't good enough for it to matter. In that game Liverpool beat them 4-0 I remember it not even mattering what the referee would do because they never had the ball. That was probably Liverpool's most impressive win in modern times until the first Roma game. However, in the game that Liverpool beat them 1-0 at the Bernabeu, the referee was incredibly harsh and Liverpool were pretty much under pressure the entire game.

If their team wasn't actually good people wouldn't even notice really. As that relates to the final it's hard for me to worry about the game, I feel pretty good about it. See I remember a weak Liverpool team going to Barcelona and winning 2-1. I remember them wrecking Inter Milan too and giving Ibra hell. Those are my European memories, I'm sure the game will be close. I'm also sure Klopp has a plan considering this is his third European final. The team may not be experienced in these but he sure is. Third time's the charm and all that and a manager of his quality getting these chances, it's bound to happen sooner or later.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I'm also sure Klopp has a plan considering this is his third European final. The team may not be experienced in these but he sure is. Third time's the charm and all that and a manager of his quality getting these chances, it's bound to happen sooner or later.

I really don’t want you guys to win but I’m confident that you’ll make it a good game for Madrid. Do I think this game will come down to one reffing call? No. Do I think it comes down to one mistake or moment of brilliance? Yes. I think Madrid has a good chance of getting the three peat but no way will it end in a blowout.

 

[Evilo]

Who said Madrid was paying the refs?