Re-sign Andersen?

[Trapper]

Do you think he has that kind of value as a Goalie going to UFA?

What for a skilled forward?
We get guys like Petan and Malgin, so sure.

Unless you are trading him for picks. But then see my first point again.

 

[ACC1224]

What for a skilled forward?
We get guys like Petan and Malgin, so sure.

Unless you are trading him for picks. But then see my first point again.

My mistake, I took 'skilled forward' as a good player not those plugs.
Agreed, he could return one of those but picks would be preferable.

 

[qqaz]

I can't believe over half voted to move him before the season starts. That's a pretty big overreaction.

Even if you do want to move on, you need to know more about the replacement options before you do.

Campbell hasn't been given a shot with Toronto yet, we have no prospects pushing up from the AHL, and I can't think of a single trade or UFA target that is better than Freddy.

If he's traded before the season starts, then that means the starter is either Campbell, a platoon with Campbell, or Robin Lehner. I don't like those options.

 

[ACC1224]

I can't believe over half voted to move him before the season starts. That's a pretty big overreaction.

Even if you do want to move on, you need to know more about the replacement options before you do.

Campbell hasn't been given a shot with Toronto yet, we have no prospects pushing up from the AHL, and I can't think of a single trade or UFA target that is better than Freddy.

If he's traded before the season starts, then that means the starter is either Campbell, a platoon with Campbell, or Robin Lehner. I don't like those options.

Yep, that's sort of the pickle they've put themselves in. IMO, they really have no choice but to bring him back.

 

[rumman]

I voted to move him before the season starts with the caveat of him actually having some value, if he doesn't keep him and hope there's a market at the deadline because this team isn't ready for a cup run next year.

 

[Trapper]

My mistake, I took 'skilled forward' as a good player not those plugs.
Agreed, he could return one of those but picks would be preferable.

But again you need a solid replacement plan if you are moving on. Campbell/Kask/Sparks clone isn’t going to cut it.
And people may just see some of the regular season warts shine through as well.

 

[ACC1224]

But again you need a solid replacement plan if you are moving on. Campbell/Kask/Sparks clone isn’t going to cut it.
And people may just see some of the regular season warts shine through as well.

I'm going on the assumption that if they were to move on that they have a plan in place.

 

[Stephen]

Campbell will be UFA as well?

No, I mean if you re-sign Andersen but start platooning Andersen/Campbell and Campbell steals his job, you’ll have to choose which one to protect. As opposed to just letting Andersen go to UFA, protect Campbell and then sign Andersen later.

Or you do the smart thing and you get a young cheap goalie this coming year and just phase Andersen out all together.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Andersen is going into his final season before UFA, what should be done with him?

I think it is a done deal actually he will be gone if Dubie gets another year ... Dubie will try to get Murray from Pens for Freddy I expect .. da only real question left to answer is what else we take from Pens (Hornquist and Byustad come to mind right away) and how many years does Murray get? If Murray gets a 10% raise to 4M per for a couple years then fine depending on what we do to help out Pens CAP ... these 2 teams have da worst CAP issues in NHL right now

 

[Nineteen67]

That is an excellent poll question. I hate to have an asset like that walk for a compensatory pick, yet I don’t think you can re-sign him for more than a year (two at the most) while waiting for one of the youngsters.

 

[Terrible GM]

Who are the Leafs going to sign that will be better and cheaper?? Rolling with a "1A/1B" isn't a reality.. the last time the leafs did that it was Reimer and Bernier and really that was more of a 2A/2B. Teams only get to do 1A/1B when they draft 1 or 2 great goalies. Trading is highly unlikely as they need to use tradable pieces for RD. The Leafs need 2 RD in the top 4 more than preventing the occasional weak goal. Also people tend to forget how many goals (high risk) freddy prevents, but yes those bad goals linger on everyone's mind for sure.

If the Leafs can sign Andersen at a decent value they do it, and perhaps instead of tossing Andersen aside, they bring in new goalie/mental coaches for Andersen. In the future they need to plan ahead and draft some goalies in the first or second round.

 

[Mess]

Andersen record in series deciding games is 0-8.



Not sure there is much to decide here, truth be told if playoff success is what you desire.

 

[ACC1224]

No, I mean if you re-sign Andersen but start platooning Andersen/Campbell and Campbell steals his job, you’ll have to choose which one to protect. As opposed to just letting Andersen go to UFA, protect Campbell and then sign Andersen later.

Or you do the smart thing and you get a young cheap goalie this coming year and just phase Andersen out all together.

Got it. Campbell will need protecting as well?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Got it. Campbell will need protecting as well?

We need to expose a goalie who meets the criteria. Campbell would be that goalie unless we get someone else.

 

[Al14]

What does that translate to in Dubas dollars?

$11.31M .!!!.

 

[ACC1224]

We need to expose a goalie who meets the criteria. Campbell would be that goalie unless we get someone else.

Thanks. I thought Campbell was on his last year as well.

 

[6ix]

Move him before the season starts, and trade for Murray.

Use a goalie tandem of Murray and Campbell.

 

[Mess]

But again you need a solid replacement plan if you are moving on. Campbell/Kask/Sparks clone isn’t going to cut it.
And people may just see some of the regular season warts shine through as well.

Dubas thought Garret Sparks and Michael Hutchinson were an upgrade of our backup goalie position.

I agree we need a replacement plan if Leafs move on from Freddy, but holy hell in a hand basket Batman this could turn out really badly as we're talking our starter here, after watching the 2 year debacle that happened to our backup position.

I can already see were this would be heading.. Dubas relies on stats and analytics to make hockey decisions and so he will seek a goalie with strong #'s behind a solid defensive team system and then hope those will translate to similar #'s for the Leafs with their offense first hockey system.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don’t think he is the biggest problem, but he has not earned a big commitment from the Leafs. I’d look to move on from him, if I can.

 

[SeanAvery]

I don't want to, but unless Dubas has something up his sleeves we have him for one more year. I don't want to resign him though.

 

[ACC1224]

I don’t think he is the biggest problem, but he has not earned a big commitment from the Leafs. I’d look to move on from him, if I can.

I think that's going to be the problem. He will want commitment and the Leafs will want shorter term.

 

[Stephen]

Got it. Campbell will need protecting as well?

Yes he would because I think he has another 2 years left. So in the event that Toronto uses him more and becomes an attractive expansion target you would have to protect him.

 

[Stephen]

I think we need a goalie who can be more of that rockstar personality in net. You want a guy who can be a battler who enjoys the big moments and not a guy who is try to survive them, which is the vibe I get with Andersen.

 

[Not My Tempo]

Aside from his performance this season, I feel uneasy about giving a raise to any goaltender already above the age of 30.

 

[Mess]

I think we need a goalie who can be more of that rockstar personality in net. You want a guy who can be a battler who enjoys the big moments and not a guy who is try to survive them, which is the vibe I get with Andersen.

Leafs need a new Cujo.

A goalie who can be a sitting duck behind an offense first team and make lots of saves and critical timely ones, with a personality that can deal with the media.