Confirmed with Link: Radko Gudas traded to Washington for Matt Niskanen

[Appleyard]

 

[Starat327]

For all those "noone wants to play here, woe is us" people, niskanen either didnt have us on his list or waived it to come here so it seems like maybe were not as undesirable as you think.

 

[Striiker]

 

[Curufinwe]

If icetime proved quality then I guess Hagg was a top 4 defensemen too.

Hagg averaged 15:08 at ES, 5th on the team.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

After Myers arrived, he dropped to #6. Only you and Dave Hakstol think he's a top 4 dman.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

 

[Garbage Goal]

I think I’m upset but it’s more like apathy at this point really. We traded a 2nd pairing vet coming off a good year on an expiring deal for a 2nd pairing vet several years older coming off a bad one with one more year on his contract. I’d say Gudas is the better trade piece too.

I don’t like it but I’m mostly just wondering why. Even in an optimistic outcome this doesn’t really move the needle much at all.

 

[GKJ]

I’m not a guy that is rah rah about this stuff, but the Flyers D core also just got a lot more soft.

Gudas was one of the few on this team that brought that snarl.

Probably an indication that it will be addressed later.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Aside from last year (after a long run where he was leaned on hard), Niskanen has been a clearly better player than Gudas. I'm OK with this gamble.


Not OK with helping a division rival this much though. f***.

 

[thelos]

Would have been nice if we could have just got Niskanen for Hagg instead of Gudas, but I guess Gudas being a UFA was a factor.

 

[dragonoffrost]

To be fair, Ghdas is undervalued by non-Flyers fans because of his bad reputation.

I mean this guy literally just won the Ashbee Trophy.

That last statement is more of a indictment of how bad Ghost and Provy were last year.

 

[TheKingPin]

Tripod and I have been working on this deal since yesterday.

Value of: - Make a Trade with Washington

Nice work. I think flyer fans should take a look at this thread. They wanted much more for him on there. Including another ask for Frost or Farabee. He’s a top pair dman on a cup winning team. I feel good about it.

 

[Cody Webster]

If icetime proved quality then I guess Hagg was a top 4 defensemen too.

Already tried that one with him...

 

[BrindamoursNose]

So I have to believe Fletch's thinking is...

Niskanen is the true vet influence they need (who will actually play, whereas McDonald may be gone/sitting) and losing Gudas removes a penalty magnet.

That's all I can feasibly see as a reason to do this deal because on the surface: we lost. for sure.

 

[DancingPanther]

Aside from last year (after a long run where he was leaned on hard), Niskanen has been a clearly better player than Gudas. I'm OK with this gamble.

Yeah, that's my thought too. Worst comes to worst it's a sideways move

 

[Striiker]

Hagg averaged 15:08 at ES, 5th on the team.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

After Myers arrived, he dropped to #6. Only you and Dave Hakstol think he's a top 4 dman.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

16:30 at EV under Hakstol. 4th on the team.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

 

[Shakey Graves]

Why?? This makes no sense. Niskanen is 5.7/yr with two years remaining. Gudas was 3.35 with 1 year remaining. Plus the flyers retained 1/3 of Gudas’ salary. On top of that Niskanen has a NTC and is now our highest paid defenseman. How is this even remotely a smart move??

 

[Danko]

People saying we got a lot softer on D, Sam Morin may be back there.

 

[BiggE]

Guess the Caps needed some cap, lol. I like Niskanen better than Gudas so I'm cool with it. The Flyers still have ample cap room and just upgraded their D. Good move

 

[Curufinwe]

16:30 at EV under Hakstol. 4th on the team.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

Why are you basing your player assessment on what a fired head coach did?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Now vanish the Hogg.

 

[dragonoffrost]

I’m not a guy that is rah rah about this stuff, but the Flyers D core also just got a lot more soft.

Gudas was one of the few on this team that brought that snarl.

Planning on Morin staying healthy?

 

[Striiker]

Why are you basing your player assessment on what a fired head coach did?

My point was just that coaches make mistakes, like we saw under Hakstol, so just looking at icetime can be misleading.

 

[Cody Webster]

Guess they were officially waiting for Nuevy to be done before trading Gudas

 

[FlyerNutter]

People saying we got a lot softer on D, Sam Morin may be back there.

I don’t count Morin though. Kid needs to show he is healthy and can handle a regular spot in the lineup.

Gudas also developed into a player that learned he can’t go batshit crazy. Nice balanced edge imo.

 

[Garbage Goal]

Hagg averaged 15:08 at ES, 5th on the team.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

After Myers arrived, he dropped to #6. Only you and Dave Hakstol think he's a top 4 dman.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...ter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

He said if ice-time proved worth Hagg would be a top four D. If you don’t change the narrative by selectively isolating ES average TOI or a specific time frame and just look at total TOI, as he implied, Hagg has the fourth highest. I don’t see where he’s technically wrong here.

 

[hatcher]

Niskanen plays a hard hitting game and plays hard in front of the net. Cup winner and puts up points. Open ice hitter also.