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Going back to 1926-27 (when the NHL absorbed its rival leagues), there have been 22 seasons where the leading goal-scorer was 25%+ ahead of the runner-up:

SeasonLeaderRunner-upGoals2ndLead
1966Bobby Hull Frank Mahovlich 543268.8%
1991Brett Hull Cam Neely 865168.6%
1945Maurice Richard Herb Cain 503256.3%
1984Wayne Gretzky Michel Goulet 875655.4%
1953Gordie Howe Ted Lindsay 493253.1%
1952Gordie Howe Bill Mosienko 473151.6%
1962Bobby Hull Claude Provost 503351.5%
1947Maurice Richard Bobby Bauer 453050.0%
1971Phil Esposito John Bucyk 765149.0%
1967Bobby Hull Stan Mikita 523548.6%
1935Charlie Conacher Cecil Dillon 362544.0%
1982Wayne Gretzky Mike Bossy 926443.8%
2021Auston MatthewsConnor McDavid322339.1%
1942Lynn Patrick Bryan Hextall 322433.3%
1957Gordie Howe Jean Beliveau 443333.3%
1927Bill Cook Babe Dye 332532.0%
1972Phil Esposito Bobby Hull 665032.0%
2000Pavel Bure Owen Nolan 584431.8%
1974Phil Esposito Rick Martin 685230.8%
1992Brett Hull Kevin Stevens 705429.6%
2002Jarome Iginla Bill Guerin 524126.8%
1988Mario Lemieux Craig Simpson 705625.0%
2008Alex Ovechkin Ilya Kovalchuk 655225.0%
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If the season ended right now, Matthews would have the 13th largest margin of victory (out of the past 94 seasons). I wouldn't go as far as saying this is historic, but still very impressive.
 
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Going back to 1926-27 (when the NHL absorbed its rival leagues), there have been 22 seasons where the leading goal-scorer was 25%+ ahead of the runner-up:

SeasonLeaderGoals2ndLead
1966Bobby Hull 543268.8%
1991Brett Hull 865168.6%
1945Maurice Richard 503256.3%
1984Wayne Gretzky 875655.4%
1953Gordie Howe 493253.1%
1952Gordie Howe 473151.6%
1962Bobby Hull 503351.5%
1947Maurice Richard 453050.0%
1971Phil Esposito 765149.0%
1967Bobby Hull 523548.6%
1935Charlie Conacher 362544.0%
1982Wayne Gretzky 926443.8%
2021Auston Matthews322339.1%
1942Lynn Patrick 322433.3%
1957Gordie Howe 443333.3%
1927Bill Cook 332532.0%
1972Phil Esposito 665032.0%
2000Pavel Bure 584431.8%
1974Phil Esposito 685230.8%
1992Brett Hull 705429.6%
2002Jarome Iginla 524126.8%
1988Mario Lemieux 705625.0%
2008Alex Ovechkin 655225.0%
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If the season ended right now, Matthews would have the 13th largest margin of victory (out of the past 94 seasons). I wouldn't go as far as saying this is historic, but still very impressive.


In 2010-11, Sidney Crosby had 32 goals after 40 games...then he got his famous concussion in his 41st game.

I am curious to know who was second with how many goals ?
 

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Going back to 1926-27 (when the NHL absorbed its rival leagues), there have been 22 seasons where the leading goal-scorer was 25%+ ahead of the runner-up:

SeasonLeaderGoals2ndLead
1966Bobby Hull 543268.8%
1991Brett Hull 865168.6%
1945Maurice Richard 503256.3%
1984Wayne Gretzky 875655.4%
1953Gordie Howe 493253.1%
1952Gordie Howe 473151.6%
1962Bobby Hull 503351.5%
1947Maurice Richard 453050.0%
1971Phil Esposito 765149.0%
1967Bobby Hull 523548.6%
1935Charlie Conacher 362544.0%
1982Wayne Gretzky 926443.8%
2021Auston Matthews322339.1%
1942Lynn Patrick 322433.3%
1957Gordie Howe 443333.3%
1927Bill Cook 332532.0%
1972Phil Esposito 665032.0%
2000Pavel Bure 584431.8%
1974Phil Esposito 685230.8%
1992Brett Hull 705429.6%
2002Jarome Iginla 524126.8%
1988Mario Lemieux 705625.0%
2008Alex Ovechkin 655225.0%
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If the season ended right now, Matthews would have the 13th largest margin of victory (out of the past 94 seasons). I wouldn't go as far as saying this is historic, but still very impressive.
I wouldn’t say historic either, but still very impressive none the less. Don’t let the Edmonton fans hear this, but if Matthews can catch up even a little bit in points, he could compete for the Lindsay imo.

It will be interesting to see how next season plays out for Matthews. As I do think the oddity of a shortened intradivisional season is skewing a lot. I don’t think in a normal season he is anywhere close to a 40% goal lead. He’ll be the favourite for sure next season, but I’d definitely like to see an 82gp race for the rocket with Matthews, Drai, Pasta and McDavid (and Ovi if he can get another kick at it).
 

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I am curious to know who was second with how many goals ?

One of the columns didn't print - I updated the post to show 2nd place. In the event of a tie, I'm only showing one of the runner ups (ie 2021 shows just McDavid, when he and Rantanen are currently tied).
 

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Going back to 1926-27 (when the NHL absorbed its rival leagues), there have been 22 seasons where the leading goal-scorer was 25%+ ahead of the runner-up:

SeasonLeaderRunner-upGoals2ndLead
1966Bobby Hull Frank Mahovlich 543268.8%
1991Brett Hull Cam Neely 865168.6%
1945Maurice Richard Herb Cain 503256.3%
1984Wayne Gretzky Michel Goulet 875655.4%
1953Gordie Howe Ted Lindsay 493253.1%
1952Gordie Howe Bill Mosienko 473151.6%
1962Bobby Hull Claude Provost 503351.5%
1947Maurice Richard Bobby Bauer 453050.0%
1971Phil Esposito John Bucyk 765149.0%
1967Bobby Hull Stan Mikita 523548.6%
1935Charlie Conacher Cecil Dillon 362544.0%
1982Wayne Gretzky Mike Bossy 926443.8%
2021Auston MatthewsConnor McDavid322339.1%
1942Lynn Patrick Bryan Hextall 322433.3%
1957Gordie Howe Jean Beliveau 443333.3%
1927Bill Cook Babe Dye 332532.0%
1972Phil Esposito Bobby Hull 665032.0%
2000Pavel Bure Owen Nolan 584431.8%
1974Phil Esposito Rick Martin 685230.8%
1992Brett Hull Kevin Stevens 705429.6%
2002Jarome Iginla Bill Guerin 524126.8%
1988Mario Lemieux Craig Simpson 705625.0%
2008Alex Ovechkin Ilya Kovalchuk 655225.0%
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If the season ended right now, Matthews would have the 13th largest margin of victory (out of the past 94 seasons). I wouldn't go as far as saying this is historic, but still very impressive.

He also has this margin while missing 3 games and not being able to hardly shoot the puck for over 10 games with that lingering wrist injury. Very impressive indeed.
 

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I wouldn’t say historic either, but still very impressive none the less. Don’t let the Edmonton fans hear this, but if Matthews can catch up even a little bit in points, he could compete for the Lindsay imo.

It will be interesting to see how next season plays out for Matthews. As I do think the oddity of a shortened intradivisional season is skewing a lot. I don’t think in a normal season he is anywhere close to a 40% goal lead. He’ll be the favourite for sure next season, but I’d definitely like to see an 82gp race for the rocket with Matthews, Drai, Pasta and McDavid (and Ovi if he can get another kick at it).

If he can manage not to get an injury that affects his shot for a long period of time I think he will dominate again.
 

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Crazy to see how much Bobby Hull is on that list and how much he spanked the rest of the league in multiple different years.
 

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I wouldn’t say historic either, but still very impressive none the less. Don’t let the Edmonton fans hear this, but if Matthews can catch up even a little bit in points, he could compete for the Lindsay imo.

It will be interesting to see how next season plays out for Matthews. As I do think the oddity of a shortened intradivisional season is skewing a lot. I don’t think in a normal season he is anywhere close to a 40% goal lead. He’ll be the favourite for sure next season, but I’d definitely like to see an 82gp race for the rocket with Matthews, Drai, Pasta and McDavid (and Ovi if he can get another kick at it).

If he can manage not to get an injury that affects his shot for a serious length of time I wouldn't put it past him putting up another huge lead.
 

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I mean this us the first time I've seen it.

But I mean good players get points against bad teams. So do bad players, that's why they are bad teams.

I have read it here probably 100 times:) Thats why I was shocked by your comment.
And your second point is spot on. Not just that but all the Northern teams play Ottawa too so....
 

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I have read it here probably 100 times:) Thats why I was shocked by your comment.
And your second point is spot on. Not just that but all the Northern teams play Ottawa too so....

Mind pointing me to a few of those posts? I'd be interested in who makes such a stupid argument.
 

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Mind pointing me to a few of those posts? I'd be interested in who makes such a stupid argument.

There's been lots of them. Any thread with Matthews, McDavid or talk of the North Division will likely have such posts.

The posters saying that nonsense are either trolls or unintelligent. Take your pick
 

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I wouldn’t say historic either, but still very impressive none the less. Don’t let the Edmonton fans hear this, but if Matthews can catch up even a little bit in points, he could compete for the Lindsay imo.

It will be interesting to see how next season plays out for Matthews. As I do think the oddity of a shortened intradivisional season is skewing a lot. I don’t think in a normal season he is anywhere close to a 40% goal lead. He’ll be the favourite for sure next season, but I’d definitely like to see an 82gp race for the rocket with Matthews, Drai, Pasta and McDavid (and Ovi if he can get another kick at it).

I don't think this is Matthews true peak, so I have no doubt he can score at this pace again next year. He had an injured wrist for a while and wasn't shooting the puck. The PP is also terrible so he's not getting the PP numbers he could be getting.

If him and marner stay healthy next year and continue to play together, I see no reason why he can't make a push for 70 goals. Don't know if he'll make it, but I think he will get close. It's not as if he only beats up on weaker teams. He beats up on all teams.

On top of that, every off season he works very hard on improving one aspect of his game. 2 years ago it was his slap shot/one timer, this past off season was his conditioning and defensive play. He puts in a ton of work to improve his game. At only 23, he has room for improvement still.

Whether others can keep up remains to be seen. Lots of great goal scorers out there, but I do think Matthews will crack 60 next year.
 

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I don't think this is Matthews true peak, so I have no doubt he can score at this pace again next year. He had an injured wrist for a while and wasn't shooting the puck. The PP is also terrible so he's not getting the PP numbers he could be getting.

If him and marner stay healthy next year and continue to play together, I see no reason why he can't make a push for 70 goals. Don't know if he'll make it, but I think he will get close. It's not as if he only beats up on weaker teams. He beats up on all teams.

On top of that, every off season he works very hard on improving one aspect of his game. 2 years ago it was his slap shot/one timer, this past off season was his conditioning and defensive play. He puts in a ton of work to improve his game. At only 23, he has room for improvement still.

Whether others can keep up remains to be seen. Lots of great goal scorers out there, but I do think Matthews will crack 60 next year.
No doubt Matthews is at the top of his game, and I agree that with the scoring uptick over the last few years, I agree Matthews is definitely a contender for 60 goals in a normal season (hopefully next year).

I'm just not convinced that the oddity of this shortened season isn't playing a huge role. It could be a coincidence, but I just find it interesting that in a season where you only play 6 teams, he goes from never winning a goalscoring race to leading over #2 by a large margin. I just personally think that if this was a normal 82gp season (not intradivisional), that the race would be a lot closer (even if Matthews was still in the lead).
 
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No doubt Matthews is at the top of his game, and I agree that with the scoring uptick over the last few years, I agree Matthews is definitely a contender for 60 goals in a normal season (hopefully next year).

I'm just not convinced that the oddity of this shortened season isn't playing a huge role. It could be a coincidence, but I just find it interesting that in a season where you only play 6 teams, he goes from never winning a goalscoring race to leading over #2 by a large margin. I just personally think that if this was a normal 82gp season (not intradivisional), that the race would be a lot closer (even if Matthews was still in the lead).

We'll never know, but is it really uncommon for a guy to get better every year in his early 20's? Who peaks at 22? Also, last year was really a lost year for the Leafs. The coaching stuff and some players struggled, including Marner.

If you watch Matthews play, when he gets a good scoring chance, he just doesn't miss. He has that natural skill set that isn't just going to fade over night, short of some serious injury that affects his shot.

I don't think it's a coincidence nor do I think his numbers have anything to do with the divisions. He took that next step and both him and marner are playing well together.

I think he's the best goal scorer since Prime Ovi so I expect him to continue to score as such
 

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We'll never know, but is it really uncommon for a guy to get better every year in his early 20's? Who peaks at 22? Also, last year was really a lost year for the Leafs. The coaching stuff and some players struggled, including Marner.

If you watch Matthews play, when he gets a good scoring chance, he just doesn't miss. He has that natural skill set that isn't just going to fade over night, short of some serious injury that affects his shot.

I don't think it's a coincidence nor do I think his numbers have anything to do with the divisions. He took that next step and both him and marner are playing well together.

I think he's the best goal scorer since Prime Ovi so I expect him to continue to score as such
Many goalscorers peak in their early 20's, so it does make sense. Regardless, I agree that Matthews may be the best goalscorer since Ovi, but I don't think a 40% increase relative to peers is his "natural progression".
 

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Many goalscorers peak in their early 20's, so it does make sense. Regardless, I agree that Matthews may be the best goalscorer since Ovi, but I don't think a 40% increase relative to peers is his "natural progression".

Maybe we're just now seeing this peak, finally. As a rookie, with limited ice time, limited PP time and a mish mash of rookies as wingers, he scored 40. So that's clearly his floor.

The following 2 years he dealt with injuries. Last year was really a down year for the Leafs as a whole, although he still had good numbers.

So if his floor is 40 goals, is it really a stretch for him to hit 60+ in a regular year in his prime, while playing with marner?

Time will tell of course. I don't think the divisional play has changed much. A couple goals maybe, but nothing significant.

I'm not good at the on pace stuff, but are Drai and pasta perhaps having a bit of a down year?

There's also the fact that Ovi is getting older. We're used to him being at the top with good numbers, but now that he isn't doing that, maybe Matthews is going to be on an island for a few years. Again, time will tell.
 
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Maybe we're just now seeing this peak, finally. As a rookie, with limited ice time, limited PP time and a mish mash of rookies as wingers, he scored 40. So that's clearly his floor.

The following 2 years he dealt with injuries. Last year was really a down year for the Leafs as a whole, although he still had good numbers.

So if his floor is 40 goals, is it really a stretch for him to hit 60+ in a regular year in his prime, while playing with marner?

Time will tell of course. I don't think the divisional play has changed much. A couple goals maybe, but nothing significant.

I'm not good at the on pace stuff, but are Drai and pasta perhaps having a bit of a down year?

There's also the fact that Ovi is getting older. We're used to him being at the top with good numbers, but now that he isn't doing that, maybe Matthews is going to be on an island for a few years. Again, time will tell.

Ovi currently on pace for 45 over a full 82. And he more than anybody can get hot. Not like he’s dropped off too much from last year. PP has hurt him this year. Still T-3rd in EVG despite missing 4 games for covid protocols. Only 6 PPG - that’s what’s holding him back.

Still think he wills himself to 30.
 

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Mind pointing me to a few of those posts? I'd be interested in who makes such a stupid argument.

Yah sorry I dont really know how to or want to search for them. Trust me I have read it in pretty much every thread that was about McDavid, the Hart, Matthews scoring etc. Im pretty sure even one of the Leafs fans would back me up on this.
 

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Needs 18 goals in the Leafs' final 14 games, to hit 50 goals on the season.

....In a 56-game season, where he's already missed three games.

Crazy to think that it's entirely possible he does this.
 
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If anyone is writing off Ovechkin for next year.......you should get yourself checked out.
While I firmly believe the torch has been passed between last year and this, it would be incredibly short-sighted to think Ovechkin can't just win another Rocket.

And that list is really interesting.
The Hulls just crushing people there.
 
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