GDT: Quarter Final: Finland Vs United States | 11:30AM EST 5:30PM CET | FIN 1 - 0 USA

[PG Canuck]

how exactly is us more talented than the Finns, finland has won every time in this age group and missing Kakko, Kotka Lundell Kupari..

Every team is missing eligible players just like Finland, so that's really a moot point.

 

[Jussi]

Every team is missing eligible players just like Finland, so that's really a moot point.

Our talent pool isn't as deep as the others.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

This group of young American hockey players must see nightmares of the Finnish national team at this point. Beat them in U18 gold, U20 gold and beat them now.

 

[Lambo]

Quinn Hughes alone has more NHL points than those guys combined. And then there's Fox, J Hughes and Marino who all have more points than Kakko...

Jack Hughes has only 2 Points(+ 1 Game) more than Kakko. This is nothing! Lundell and Kupari aren t NHL players. Only Quinn Hughes is an exception.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Post a link to your hockeydb. Bet you won’t, internet tough guy

Here's mine...

Regular Season	Playoffs
Season	Team	Lge	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
1975-76	Toronto Nationals	MJBHL	28	27	33	60	7		--	--	--	--	--
1976-77	Peterborough Petes	OHA	3	0	3	3	0		--	--	--	--	--
1976-77	Seneca Nationals	MJBHL	32	36	36	72	35		--	--	--	--	--
1977-78	Soo Greyhounds	OHA	64	70	112	182	14		--	--	--	--	--
1978-79	Indianapolis Racers	WHA	8	3	3	6	0	-3	--	--	--	--	--
1978-79	Edmonton Oilers	WHA	72	43	61	104	19	23	13	10	10	20	2
1979-80	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	79	51	86	137	21	15	3	2	1	3	0
1980-81	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	55	109	164	28	41	9	7	14	21	4
1981-82	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	92	120	212	26	81	5	5	7	12	8
1982-83	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	71	125	196	59	60	16	12	26	38	4
1983-84	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	74	87	118	205	39	76	19	13	22	35	12
1984-85	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	73	135	208	52	98	18	17	30	47	4
1985-86	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	52	163	215	46	71	10	8	11	19	2
1986-87	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	79	62	121	183	28	70	21	5	29	34	6
1987-88	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	64	40	109	149	24	39	19	12	31	43	16
1988-89	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	78	54	114	168	26	15	11	5	17	22	0
1989-90	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	73	40	102	142	42	8	7	3	7	10	0
1990-91	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	78	41	122	163	16	30	12	4	11	15	2
1991-92	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	74	31	90	121	34	-12	6	2	5	7	2
1992-93	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	45	16	49	65	6	6	24	15	25	40	4
1993-94	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	81	38	92	130	20	-25	--	--	--	--	--
1994-95	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	48	11	37	48	6	-20	--	--	--	--	--
1995-96	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	62	15	66	81	32	-7	--	--	--	--	--
1995-96	St. Louis Blues	NHL	18	8	13	21	2	-6	13	2	14	16	0
1996-97	New York Rangers	NHL	82	25	72	97	28	12	15	10	10	20	2
1997-98	New York Rangers	NHL	82	23	67	90	28	-11	--	--	--	--	--
1998-99	New York Rangers	NHL	70	9	53	62	14	-23	--	--	--	--	--
	WHA Totals		80	46	64	110	19		13	10	10	20	2
	NHL Totals		1487	894	1963	2857	577		208	122	260	382	66

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[bigdog16]

I don’t have one. You do, apparently. Why are you embarrassed to post it, but ok with bragging about the high level of hockey you played?

I do in fact have one. I would rather not have my identity revealed, along with you, Neutral Hockey Fan.

If you read the initial post, FinnishSniper tried to tell me that "I have never laced them up" and that "it is easy to tell I never played a high level of hockey". So I was just defending myself, not bragging. It is probably a higher level than a lot of ppl here played, but I never made money playing hockey or anything, and I know there are posters here who did, so I don't consider myself to be better than anybody. In fact, I don't think ive ever actually talked about the level I played on here before

 

[Neutral Hockey Fan]

Here's mine...

Regular Season	Playoffs
Season	Team	Lge	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
1975-76	Toronto Nationals	MJBHL	28	27	33	60	7		--	--	--	--	--
1976-77	Peterborough Petes	OHA	3	0	3	3	0		--	--	--	--	--
1976-77	Seneca Nationals	MJBHL	32	36	36	72	35		--	--	--	--	--
1977-78	Soo Greyhounds	OHA	64	70	112	182	14		--	--	--	--	--
1978-79	Indianapolis Racers	WHA	8	3	3	6	0	-3	--	--	--	--	--
1978-79	Edmonton Oilers	WHA	72	43	61	104	19	23	13	10	10	20	2
1979-80	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	79	51	86	137	21	15	3	2	1	3	0
1980-81	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	55	109	164	28	41	9	7	14	21	4
1981-82	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	92	120	212	26	81	5	5	7	12	8
1982-83	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	71	125	196	59	60	16	12	26	38	4
1983-84	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	74	87	118	205	39	76	19	13	22	35	12
1984-85	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	73	135	208	52	98	18	17	30	47	4
1985-86	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	80	52	163	215	46	71	10	8	11	19	2
1986-87	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	79	62	121	183	28	70	21	5	29	34	6
1987-88	Edmonton Oilers	NHL	64	40	109	149	24	39	19	12	31	43	16
1988-89	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	78	54	114	168	26	15	11	5	17	22	0
1989-90	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	73	40	102	142	42	8	7	3	7	10	0
1990-91	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	78	41	122	163	16	30	12	4	11	15	2
1991-92	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	74	31	90	121	34	-12	6	2	5	7	2
1992-93	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	45	16	49	65	6	6	24	15	25	40	4
1993-94	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	81	38	92	130	20	-25	--	--	--	--	--
1994-95	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	48	11	37	48	6	-20	--	--	--	--	--
1995-96	Los Angeles Kings	NHL	62	15	66	81	32	-7	--	--	--	--	--
1995-96	St. Louis Blues	NHL	18	8	13	21	2	-6	13	2	14	16	0
1996-97	New York Rangers	NHL	82	25	72	97	28	12	15	10	10	20	2
1997-98	New York Rangers	NHL	82	23	67	90	28	-11	--	--	--	--	--
1998-99	New York Rangers	NHL	70	9	53	62	14	-23	--	--	--	--	--
	WHA Totals		80	46	64	110	19		13	10	10	20	2
	NHL Totals		1487	894	1963	2857	577		208	122	260	382	66

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You were under a ppg in 1999. Yikes.

 

[JJTT]

Every team is missing eligible players just like Finland, so that's really a moot point.

Finland is missing 5 of their top6 forwards from this age group(Kakko, Kotkaniemi, Kupari, Lundell and Nordgren) No other team is even close to that.

USA doesn't have Hughes or Farabee but they have everyone else. Take away Turcotte, Zegras and Kaliev and it's closer.

 

[NorCalhockey]

Top 3 players for USA:
Knight
Zegras
Pinto

Sorry I didn’t see the first part of your Q:
Player of the Quarter final game for each country is: Knight and Oden (this selection is pretty obvious since he got the game winning goal)

 

[behemolari]

Whenever they're underdogs and have a goaltending they will win, it's quite obvious

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

More skilled than a consistent 30+ goal scorer and elite chance generator? Wow must be a top 5 prospect in the league

Twice by the age of 27 isn't exactly "consistent" and probably doesn't require one to be a top 5 prospect.

 

[tapi]

Make no mistake with the best rosters USA wins the game 8/10 times.. but still a great effort from Finland, I was sure with the n00b at the helm they would have crashed out. Props to them.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

You were under a ppg in 1999. Yikes.

I was drunk.

 

[crowi]

Good game, better luck next year USA.

Can't believe how little Zegras was played this tournament despite being a force.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Brink was better than Caufield.

Caufield was invisible most of the tourney. Tried to do way too much himself.

 

[Voight]

Gotta super disappointing for the US, after the draft they had this (well, last) year.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Gotta super disappointing for the US, after the draft they had this (well, last) year.

Pretty sure same happened to us. Tolvanen, Vesalainen, Jokiharju, Välimäki, Vaakanainen, Heiskanen all picked in the first round and then disappointment next year.

 

[Nate070]

Make no mistake with the best rosters USA wins the game 8/10 times.. but still a great effort from Finland, I was sure with the n00b at the helm they would have crashed out. Props to them.

Sorry but that team does not win over Finland 8 times out of ten. There is more to winning than posting some pretty names on a roster

 

[Zippgunn]

99% of Team USA's roster was playing hero hockey, and so many of them think they can still get away with that trash.

You can't dangle through entire rosters 5v5

I have always said that Team USA always seems to play more like a group of individulas rather than a team. Always seems to bite them in the rear...

 

[wacko2]

Sorry but that team does not win over Finland 8 times out of ten. There is more to winning than posting some pretty names on a roster

Yep, and the Finnish team is as talented than the USA team if not moreso, and more disciplined as well.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

That’s fair. He was probably the 18th best player on the ~8th best team at the world juniors. He has a chance to play pro hockey one day, for sure.

So, basically tied for 3rd on the US roster ?

They had so many underwhelming players.

 

[Garyboy]

Brutal brackets, result of brutal pools. No way should the CZ, Fin, Swe, and USA all be in the same side, while Russia and CAN get easy walks.

?

You’re aware it’s based on the group stage placings, and not just randomly thrown together?

 

[FinPanda]

 

[Garyboy]

I don’t have one. You do, apparently. Why are you embarrassed to post it, but ok with bragging about the high level of hockey you played?

You called him out by saying he must’ve never played hockey at an elite level. He didn’t voluntarily mention his hockey resume. Why are you playing that card when you’ve never played at a level hockeyDB charts?

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Our talent pool isn't as deep as the others.

But Finland coaching has depth. As in how to smoke US coaches.