Post-Game Talk: PS#3 Rangers @ Bruins

[Ex Officer Friendly]

What changed? Unless McIlrath boots somebody out, we have man-for-man the exact same starting defense.

I'd like to feel safe with a multi-goal lead. That's not so much to ask. I don't at all, especially when the games really start to matter.

lol but McD isn't injured, Staal isnt injured, Yandle isnt injured, Klein isnt returning from injury, Zucc doesnt have a busted skull, Tanner Glass should hopefully be off this team, James Sheppard will not be in the lineup this season... each year is a new year who knows maybe they decide to change the defensive plan. Past season success does not mean anything come this year... Boston won the Presidents trophy then missed the playoffs. You cannot take last season and expect the same thing this season.

Yandle will also have a full season under his belt learning the system

 

[Machinehead]

lol but McD isn't injured, Staal isnt injured, Yandle isnt injured, Klein isnt returning from injury, Zucc doesnt have a busted skull, Tanner Glass should hopefully be off this team, James Sheppard will not be in the lineup this season... each year is a new year who knows maybe they decide to change the defensive plan. Past season success does not mean anything come this year... Boston won the Presidents trophy then missed the playoffs. You cannot take last season and expect the same thing this season.

Yandle will also have a full season under his belt learning the system

Well I'd like to see it change. It sure didn't last night. Maybe it will with the full lineup.

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

Well I'd like to see it change. It sure didn't last night. Maybe it will with the full lineup.

It is the preseason... Bellemore was out there to hold a lead... Bellemore

 

[egelband]

My concern is we're still a vacation to play offense against, the goals pile up if an elite goalie isn't in net, and we couldn't hold a 2 goal lead if you glued it to AV's ass.

Let's not pretend this only happens in preseason.

Totally. Need McIlrath to take a regular shift. Make the Rangers that much less fun to play.

 

[Hire Sather]

I'd be willing to bet the Rangers have probably blown the least 2 goal leads in the league over the last 6 years.

Or 3 years. Or 4. Whatever you want to do.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

I'd be willing to bet the Rangers have probably blown the least 2 goal leads in the league over the last 6 years.

Or 3 years. Or 4. Whatever you want to do.

This is correct.

 

[Machinehead]

It is the preseason... Bellemore was out there to hold a lead... Bellemore

And in the regular season it'll be Girardi. Huge improvement but still a problem.

 

[Machinehead]

I'd be willing to bet the Rangers have probably blown the least 2 goal leads in the league over the last 6 years.

Or 3 years. Or 4. Whatever you want to do.

We're up there. but because of Lundqvist. I don't wanna lean on him like a crutch. I wanna completely shut a team off like Tampa did to us in games 5 and 7. I can't remember the last time we did that.

 

[Siamese Dream]

I'd be willing to bet the Rangers have probably blown the least 2 goal leads in the league over the last 6 years.

Or 3 years. Or 4. Whatever you want to do.

That's because they rarely get a 2 goal lead

Last season's strategy was get a 1 goal lead by the 3rd period then park the bus for 20 minutes and block shots and hope Lundqvist stops the ones that reach the net, though this did seem to be a common theme for all teams throughout the league

Things aren't really different to how they were under Torts in their own end, the wingers collapsed and didn't play tight on the point and the team really struggled to get the puck out of the zone once the other team were in and got set up

 

[Trxjw]

Pretty impressive that the Rangers could pack it in for the 3rd period every game and still be +18 in 3rd period goal differential and 8th overall in GF in the 3rd.

 

[Machinehead]

Pretty impressive that the Rangers could pack it in for the 3rd period every game and still be +18 in 3rd period goal differential and 8th overall in GF in the 3rd.

I don't it's purposefully packing it in, I think it's a system which is too passive.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Can't we have a 3 Dead Stars or something after a loss in the regular season?

Or 3 Dopes?

I think this is funny in theory but I bet emotions would be so high that it'd devolve into accusations of bias, insults about intelligence and it would just be an impetus for massive fighting

 

[Trxjw]

I don't it's purposefully packing it in, I think it's a system which is too passive.

You don't think that it's impressive that they're, by your own admission, putting themselves at a disadvantage and yet still posted a positive goal differential? I'm not a fan of the premise, but the results say a lot.

 

[Machinehead]

You don't think that it's impressive that they're, by your own admission, putting themselves at a disadvantage and yet still posted a positive goal differential? I'm not a fan of the premise, but the results say a lot.

I never said the Rangers were a terrible team in 3rd periods. I think we're a notch below the elite. You'll never see Chicago do what we did in Tampa, or in LA, or last night.

 

[Siamese Dream]

Pretty impressive that the Rangers could pack it in for the 3rd period every game and still be +18 in 3rd period goal differential and 8th overall in GF in the 3rd.

Obviously it's not every game, last year's team was much better in previous years at coming back from behind, those numbers also don't account for games against teams like Buffalo, and what about empty net goals scored from when they're sitting on that 1 goal lead?

More often than not the team did manage to hold the 1 goal lead thanks to defense and goaltending, but it was horrendous to watch and not a favourable strategy

 

[Machinehead]

That also doesn't take into account being behind and tied 3rd period games.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

I never said the Rangers were a terrible team in 3rd periods. I think we're a notch below the elite. You'll never see Chicago do what we did in Tampa, or in LA, or last night.

No because LA is to busy trailing from behind every game.

 

[Machinehead]

Last year the Rangers GF% up by 2 goals was 9th in the league. That's not bad by any stretch.

Much better marks: Chicago, LA, Tampa. That's the difference.

The rest of the teams were pedestrian teams who are skewed by rarely being up by two.

 

[Machinehead]

No because LA is to busy trailing from behind every game.

That might be the case but they're borderline unbeatable with a lead.

 

[Trxjw]

I never said the Rangers were a terrible team in 3rd periods. I think we're a notch below the elite. You'll never see Chicago do what we did in Tampa, or in LA, or last night.

Yeah, but this team isn't Chicago. Chicago doesn't pay a goaltender 12% of their salary cap like we do. The Rangers hedged their bets on riding the worlds best goalie, and their in-game strategy shows that. Is it risky to pack it in like they do to protect a lead? Yes, but you can't argue that they were very successful with it.

The Rangers never took a lead into the 3rd period against Tampa and lost it as far as I can remember. The biggest problem in that series was game-to-game consistency. The offense and defense kept alternating the nights that they wanted to show up.

 

[Trxjw]

Obviously it's not every game, last year's team was much better in previous years at coming back from behind, those numbers also don't account for games against teams like Buffalo, and what about empty net goals scored from when they're sitting on that 1 goal lead?

More often than not the team did manage to hold the 1 goal lead thanks to defense and goaltending, but it was horrendous to watch and not a favourable strategy

Even if you want to undermine the goal differential with ENG's or lousy opponents, they lost what, 1 or 2 games last season when taking a lead into the 3rd? I'm not sure what's more favorable than that. It's obviously a risk, but it's a risk that the team is pretty much built to take with the worlds best goalie eating up 12% of the salary cap.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

That might be the case but they're borderline unbeatable with a lead.

Thats because they turn into the Devils 2.0

 

[Machinehead]

I actually just looked at the corsi from last night's game.

Zuccarello -12, Brassard -15, McDonagh -17. Brutal, more brutal, and literally Satan.

I'm gonna chalk that up to roster locks playing the preseason.

 

[aufheben]

We seriously scanning Pre-season Corsi?

 

[CupWindow]

Pretty impressive that the Rangers could pack it in for the 3rd period every game and still be +18 in 3rd period goal differential and 8th overall in GF in the 3rd.

lol