Post-Game Talk: PS #3 - 09/22/18 | RANGERS @ islanders | 7:00 - MSG

[Trxjw]

I'm going to let the roster shake out before I start projecting where this team finishes. A hot start could mean the team is in bubble territory by the time the trade deadline rolls around. At least there's another strong top-end of the draft this year after Hughes.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I'm going to let the roster shake out before I start projecting where this team finishes. A hot start could mean the team is in bubble territory by the time the trade deadline rolls around. At least there's another strong top-end of the draft this year after Hughes.

If we miss out on Hughes, I would love to get Kakko or Podkolzin.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

If we miss out on Hughes, I would love to get Kakko or Podkolzin.

You just want more prospects to stalk

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You just want more prospects to stalk

I can neither confirm nor deny that statement

 

[Edge]

I think the offense will be there some nights, but overall inconsistent.

I can envision a scenario in which certain guys light up weaker competition and have spurts where they look great, only to go 10 games without a goal.

The defense will probably move the puck at a decent rate, but I think it's going to be a rough year for them.

I think our goalies will make a lot of saves, but ultimately face a lot of shots as well. Lundqvist could post a save percentage of 92, and still end up with a goals against average hovering around 3.

I'm going to predict that they're sitting around 8 from the bottom at the TDL and then finish up 3-5 after the next round of trades.

 

[Valhalla]

I truly fear we're gonna end up picking 12th- 16th... We're just not bad enough

 

[broadwayblue]

I truly fear we're gonna end up picking 12th- 16th... We're just not bad enough

I can't imagine there being 10 teams worse than us over the course of this season.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I truly fear we're gonna end up picking 12th- 16th... We're just not bad enough

I think we will have the 3rd overall pick going into the lottery just behind Colorado and Detroit.

 

[Rangers in 7]

we are going to be a very bad team, but we will definitely be fun to watch which is all you can ask for

 

[Valhalla]

I think we will have the 3rd overall pick going into the lottery just behind Colorado and Detroit.

If Quinn is a brainiac, having Heatl and Zuke together, there's just no f'n way they will finish in the last8

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If Quinn is a brainiac, having Heatl and Zuke together, there's just no f'n way they will finish in the last8

This is not NHL 19

 

[broadwayblue]

If Quinn is a brainiac, having Heatl and Zuke together, there's just no f'n way they will finish in the last8

We finished in the last 8 a year ago...and that was after we moved most of our marquee players at the deadline. Yes, we might have Chytil, Andersson, and Shattenkirk for full seasons...but that hardly makes up for losing McDonagh, Nash and Grabner. And that's before they deal off more assets during the season. I would be surprised if this team is not picking in 4 to 8 range next June.

 

[Valhalla]

This is not NHL 19

that's like me asking; have you even played the f'n game, punk...

 

[Captain Lindy]

we are going to be a very bad team, but we will definitely be fun to watch which is all you can ask for

I don't know how you can be so certain of that. Hockey is very tough to predict because of the emotion involved. That's the one thing hockey has that other sports lack. Emotion can really propel teams to be a lot better than they are on paper. Especially during the regular season.

Edited to add: I don't know how a losing team can be fun to watch. I don't understand the mentality of wanting to see your team lose.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

For real , people had him as a middle 6 at best. No one was projecting him to be a star.

Look over some of the threads at the time of the time of the acquisition. There were some who thought he was a first liner, most others thought second liners, and a couple who thought third line. There was never any discussion that he'd be a 13F type of player.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I thought Namestnikov worked well with Chytil, I don’t understand what the expectations are?

He had four points in 19 games after joining the team. He has 0 points through 2 preseason games.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don't know how you can be so certain of that. Hockey is very tough to predict because of the emotion involved. That's the one thing hockey has that other sports lack. Emotion can really propel teams to be a lot better than they are on paper. Especially during the regular season.

Edited to add: I don't know how a losing team can be fun to watch. I don't understand the mentality of wanting to see your team lose.

You're right that there is no way to be certain about things one way or the other, but it'd be straight up dishonest to ignore all of the signs that would lead one to believe that this team is not going to be very good.

Emotion may tilt the odds in your favor if all things are equal, but the teams with the best collection of talent usually win, at least in the regular season.

Who was the last team to succeed on emotion alone?

 

[Inferno]

The reality is that this is going to be a very long year.

I know there were some that thought this team might be closer to a bubble team.

Right now, I don’t see it. I think this team finishes in the bottom 5 or 6.

I still see them more in the bottom 7 to 9 range personally.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

This may be a long season and odds are this team will be on the outside looking in but there is no guarantee of that. Did anybody on this board expect the devils or Colorado to make the playoffs last year? Did anybody expect Vegas to make it to the finals? I'm not going to make definitive statements about where they are going to finish after 3 preseason games with a new coach and new systems. I expect them to play hard, be competitive, and develop the young guys.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This may be a long season and odds are this team will be on the outside looking in but there is no guarantee of that. Did anybody on this board expect the devils or Colorado to make the playoffs last year? Did anybody expect Vegas to make it to the finals? I'm not going to make definitive statements about where they are going to finish after 3 preseason games with a new coach and new systems. I expect them to play hard, be competitive, and develop the young guys.

Devils and Colorado had guys who finished 1 and 2 in the hart trophy voting. Both Taylor Hall and Nathan Mackinnon had 90+ point seasons, Colorado also had Rantanen and Barrie at almost a PPG. While not expected (and the Devils are due for a pretty drastic drop off) no one should be surprised that Hall and Mackinnon posted the types of seasons that they did, they both went 1OA for a reason.

We don't have anyone on this roster capable of doing that.

Vegas had a half dozen players post career years. I think the likely hood of that happening here is even less likely than having one of our forwards have an MVP type season.

Teams that surprise have players that surprise, big time. We can use our very own Rangers as an example, they got into the playoffs right after the lockout when no one expected them to because Jagr basically broke every franchise record.

Take Jagr off that team and they don't sniff the playoffs.

I get your point on not making definitive statements, but using those teams as your examples is such a poor argument.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Devils and Colorado had guys who finished 1 and 2 in the hart trophy voting. Both Taylor Hall and Nathan Mackinnon had 90+ point seasons, Colorado also had Rantanen and Barrie at almost a PPG. While not expected (and the Devils are due for a pretty drastic drop off) no one should be surprised that Hall and Mackinnon posted the types of seasons that they did, they both went 1OA for a reason.

We don't have anyone on this roster capable of doing that.

Vegas had a half dozen players post career years. I think the likely hood of that happening here is even less likely than having one of our forwards have an MVP type season.

Teams that surprise have players that surprise, big time. We can use our very own Rangers as an example, they got into the playoffs right after the lockout when no one expected them to because Jagr basically broke every franchise record.

Take Jagr off that team and they don't sniff the playoffs.

I get your point on not making definitive statements, but using those teams as your examples is such a poor argument.

I don't think using the above teams was a poor argument at all. None of those teams were expected to do anyrhing just like the rangers. The Devils and Colorado did not make playoffs the previous year and were not expected to make it last year as well by any of the pundits. Colorado had the least points in the league and were an absolute train wreck and turned it around big time. Did you expect Mackinnon or Hall to actually have 90+ point season? Nobody had the expansion Vegas Knights to sniff the playoffs let alone make it to the finals. Did you have any idea that half the team would have career years? How do we know how Chytl, Anderson, ADA, and others are going to play? Maybe Kreider or Zibs or Buch have a breakout year? Maybe we surprise some people? Who knows?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

He will be. AV was replaced by Quinn and we will still see Vesey get top-6 minutes for days after scoring a fluke goal. We will still see Staal out there defending a lead with 1 minute to go. Book it.

Either Vesey is a master manipulator to also bewitch Quinn, or at lot of people are laughably wrong again.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Chytil reminds me of Malkin..just without the sick hands and blistering shot. I'll take Malkin lite any day of the week.

You don’t think he’s more of a Joe Thornton or young Peter Worrel?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I think Vesey is the archetype for the typical try hard NA player. So he'll get more opportunities than he should.

Even with The Russian bias gone?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I thought Namestnikov worked well with Chytil, I don’t understand what the expectations are?

It pretty much depends on which part of the moon phase we are entering.