Prospect Info: Prospect and Marlies Thread: 2017 - 2018 (continued) Part II

[SeaOfBlue]

Baun should be a good addition to the Marlies. Wish Rychel and Valiev luck in a system where they could actually be something. They have earned the shot they'd never get here.

I expect Baun to replace much of Rychel's size and offense, but should be a better two-way player. He's a bit older, but that does not matter. Could be a two-way contract in it for him next year if he shows well. Smith and Greening may get legitimate NHL interest this summer so the Marlies may need guys like Baun to replace them.

 

[darrylsittler27]

It's a given we need more size, but we need top 6pf or top 4d who can play. We have lots of skill, not much grit that play minutes.

 

[Bullseye]

Soshnikov played for St. Lou today and lost 4-0 to Nashville.

 

[htpwn]

Soshnikov played for St. Lou today and lost 4-0 to Nashville.

Reading the Blues GDT, it seems like their entire team took the night off... except Sosh.

Looks like he made a decent first impression.

 

[Kiwi]

Reading the Blues GDT, it seems like their entire team took the night off... except Sosh.

Looks like he made a decent first impression.

He's a gritty little **** and always gives you 100% effort, fans love that

 

[highslot]

JVR, Bozak, Moore, and Komarov = 4 spots available for next fall. Aaltonen is more of a 4C at the next level and his only competition is Gauthier.

Johnsson will absolutely fill one of those holes as he's the most NHL ready today and should be on the roster. Korshkov has stated he's coming over to NA in 2018-19, so he and Grundstrom will almost certainly play 1 season with the Marlies before getting a look. That gives Leivo time to prove himself.

Watching Grundstrom in the playoffs with the Marlies last season proved just how well his style is going to translate to the North American game. 3 goals in 6 games, most of which game from in tight around the crease. Future looks bright.

dakota joshua is actually in the mix imo, and has gauthier's size, has been playing with men and better stick handling and shooting than puzzles.

 

[BigBlu]

Any more room on the Marlies for call ups? Dzierkals maybe??

 

[saltming]

dakota joshua is actually in the mix imo, and has gauthier's size, has been playing with men and better stick handling and shooting than puzzles.

Not quite goat sized but he's a big kid for sure. Skates better than goat too and agreed about all the other stuff you said.
Could see him as our 4th line C down the road. He's a catalyst for the buckeyes right now

 

[Lil Tuzzi Bert]

Any more room on the Marlies for call ups? Dzierkals maybe??

Hoping the same thing

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Most likely Baun replaces Rychel and they either just roll with 7D, acquire one in a depth swap (could use Kaskisuo or Piccinich for example), or call up Gudbranson from the ECHL.

 

[uncleben]

Dermott and Kapanen loaned to the Marlies (and then recalled).


Gets them down in time for the AHL playoff roster deadline, so in case the Marlies go farther than the Leafs do in the playoffs, we can send Dermott and Kaps down to help them.

 

[Liminality]

Dermott and Kapanen loaned to the Marlies (and then recalled).


Gets them down in time for the AHL playoff roster deadline, so in case the Marlies go farther than the Leafs do in the playoffs, we can send Dermott and Kaps down to help them.

Almost seems unfair if they get those two.

 

[Joey Hoser]

Almost seems unfair if they get those two.

When you're as good as the Marlies, there is some pretty diminishing returns on further improvement. There's only so much puck to go around, they'll bump good players out of the lineup, etc.

They can't get much better than they are.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

When you're as good as the Marlies, there is some pretty diminishing returns on further improvement. There's only so much puck to go around, they'll bump good players out of the lineup, etc.

They can't get much better than they are.

LW Andreas Johnsson – C Miro Aaltonen – RW Ben Smith
LW Trevor Moore – C Chris Mueller – RW Dmytro Timashov
LW Colin Greening – C Frederik Gauthier – RW Kyle Baun
LW Mason Marchment – C Adam Brooks – RW Jeremy Bracco

LD Andreas Borgman – RD Timothy Liljegren
LD Martin Marincin – RD Justin Holl
LD Andrew Nielsen – RD Joe LoVerde
LD Calle Rosen

You could find a spot for them, but then you are bumping out another quality player out of the full time lineup.

Bolded are pending UFA's or RFA's who may not be qualified (Marincin). Additionally, Gauthier, Johnsson, Borgman and Aaltonen are candidates for promotion next year. I think with his injury, Aaltonen may be given the Gauthier treatment (which is fine since he's waiver exempt for another year anyways) but otherwise:

Grundstrom-Aaltonen-Korshkov (assuming they do come over)
Moore-Mueller-Timashov
Marchment-Brooks-Bracco
???-UFA-???
???/???

??? Candidates: LW/RW Vlad Bobylev, LW Nolan Vesey, RW JJ Piccinich, LW/RW Martins Dzierkals, LW/RW Nikita Korostelev, RW/C Kristian Pospisil, UFA's, LW/RW Rich Clune, LW/C Jean Dupuy (all of these guys would be on AHL contracts except maybe the UFA's).

Rosen-Liljegren
Nielsen-LoVerde
???-Holl
???-???

??? Candidates: UFA's, LD Keaton Middleton (ELC candidate), RD Nicolas Mattinen (ELC candidate), LD/RD Martin Marincin (tendered a deal; he has been a rock for the Marlies and would be great depth as much as people cringe about him but I could see him traded this offseason as well),

And absolutely nothing guaranteed in net, since both Sparks and Pickard may be dealt this offseason or claimed off of waivers, and Kaskisuo may not stick around (even though he has been solid on a 'meh' team).

 

[Yamazaki]

Any updates on altonen

 

[WTFMAN99]

See a lot of rave reviews on Fedor Gordeev...stat line doesn't jump out, truly a product of a bad team?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

See a lot of rave reviews on Fedor Gordeev...stat line doesn't jump out, truly a product of a bad team?

Well Flint is *** so possibly?

Apparently Flint fans say he's trash, but then again he's their only good defenseman now that Mattinen is gone so I find that hard to believe.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Well Flint is *** so possibly?

Apparently Flint fans say he's trash, but then again he's their only good defenseman now that Mattinen is gone so I find that hard to believe.

I am only going by a few things i've seen on twitter and the Athletic.

 

[Lil Tuzzi Bert]

When’s korshkov and grundstroms seasons end?

 

[horner]

LW Andreas Johnsson – C Miro Aaltonen – RW Ben Smith
LW Trevor Moore – C Chris Mueller – RW Dmytro Timashov
LW Colin Greening – C Frederik Gauthier – RW Kyle Baun
LW Mason Marchment – C Adam Brooks – RW Jeremy Bracco

LD Andreas Borgman – RD Timothy Liljegren
LD Martin Marincin – RD Justin Holl
LD Andrew Nielsen – RD Joe LoVerde
LD Calle Rosen

You could find a spot for them, but then you are bumping out another quality player out of the full time lineup.

Bolded are pending UFA's or RFA's who may not be qualified (Marincin). Additionally, Gauthier, Johnsson, Borgman and Aaltonen are candidates for promotion next year. I think with his injury, Aaltonen may be given the Gauthier treatment (which is fine since he's waiver exempt for another year anyways) but otherwise:

Grundstrom-Aaltonen-Korshkov (assuming they do come over)
Moore-Mueller-Timashov
Marchment-Brooks-Bracco
???-UFA-???
???/???

??? Candidates: LW/RW Vlad Bobylev, LW Nolan Vesey, RW JJ Piccinich, LW/RW Martins Dzierkals, LW/RW Nikita Korostelev, RW/C Kristian Pospisil, UFA's, LW/RW Rich Clune, LW/C Jean Dupuy (all of these guys would be on AHL contracts except maybe the UFA's).

Rosen-Liljegren
Nielsen-LoVerde
???-Holl
???-???

??? Candidates: UFA's, LD Keaton Middleton (ELC candidate), RD Nicolas Mattinen (ELC candidate), LD/RD Martin Marincin (tendered a deal; he has been a rock for the Marlies and would be great depth as much as people cringe about him but I could see him traded this offseason as well),

And absolutely nothing guaranteed in net, since both Sparks and Pickard may be dealt this offseason or claimed off of waivers, and Kaskisuo may not stick around (even though he has been solid on a 'meh' team).

One thing that our depth chart shows is that we have no cenerman in the system.
If we don't build that up, we will be giving away 2nd Rd pks at the deadline every year.
Draft or trade our wing depth for young up and coming prospects.

Maybe Aaltonen

 

[Uncle]

I am only going by a few things i've seen on twitter and the Athletic.

I watched a flint game not long ago and gordeev looked like he had a great package! Can really fly for a big man and skates the puck well! I left impressed. Only flashes though it needs to be more refined, defensive side needs a little work but not a total raw awkward lanky big dman like you may think looking at his height/weight.

 

[Walshy7]

which of our big guys are done with jnr at the end of this year? Mattinen is 20 in march so he will have to go to AHL? (or ECHL I guess too). Middelton turned 20 last month be interesting to see if they can make the marlies

 

[Walshy7]

Joseph Woll has climbed back to respectable numbers which is a good sign he was sub .900 for quite a while now up to .911

 

[Stand Witness]

In the SHL are only primary assists counted or am I mistaking that for something else?

Either way, Grundstrom has had very solid production for a late 2nd rounder and 13 goals in 29 games is impressive.

 

[Walshy7]

In the SHL are only primary assists counted or am I mistaking that for something else?

Either way, Grundstrom has had very solid production for a late 2nd rounder and 13 goals in 29 games is impressive.

I think they only count 2nd assists if it is a direct result in goal. So a dman who makes an outlet pass and after some cycling his team scores they don't get a assist. Also if say grundstrom passed to a fellow forward and he goes in 2 on 1 and pass the puck back and forth with the other forward the 2nd assist isn't awarded. They do give them but it pretty much has to obviously a direct cause of the goal