Premier League 2020-2021 (Part I)

[Live in the Now]

I was coming in to post the tweet below and make a comment about how every team needs to follow what ever Pool is doing to keep their team on the pitch. Covid kind of ruining the moment.

They have a mandated team diet, players are supposed to report everything they eat and their physical training is tailored around that. The players also do play when injured. Mane for example broke his hand and just kept playing.

Also, let's be captain obvious. Every top flight team is on dope. They have a good program.

They all have asthma...

You think your team doesn't dope? lol.

 

[robertmac43]

They have a mandated team diet, players are supposed to report everything they eat and their physical training is tailored around that. The players also do play when injured. Mane for example broke his hand and just kept playing.

True everyone has the vigilant diet and training. It is miraculous the rate at which they have stayed healthy though, no major knee or ankle injuries from any of the key players.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

They have a mandated team diet, players are supposed to report everything they eat and their physical training is tailored around that. The players also do play when injured. Mane for example broke his hand and just kept playing.

Also, let's be captain obvious. Every top flight team is on dope. They have a good program.



You think your team doesn't dope? lol.

My team has an injury crisis every year, so no, I don't think they "dope".

 

[Live in the Now]

My team has an injury crisis every year, so no, I don't think they "dope".

West Ham charged by FA over breach of anti-doping rules.

Samir Nasri signs for West Ham after doping suspension elapses

Robert Snodgrass charged after alleged abuse of anti-doping officials

 

[YNWA14]

Almost every top level athlete 'dopes'. It's not a big secret.

 

[Live in the Now]

There are also legal supplements that should definitely not be legal in athletic competition. I'm not certainly stating that players are shooting banned drugs into their ass. Maybe they are, but everyone is at the very least doing the thing I mentioned in the first sentence.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

West Ham charged by FA over breach of anti-doping rules.

Samir Nasri signs for West Ham after doping suspension elapses

Robert Snodgrass charged after alleged abuse of anti-doping officials

Holy shit, you cannot be serious.

1) Please describe to me in detail how the below translates into "players are doping".

A statement from the FA on Tuesday confirmed that West Ham breached its rules. They were given seven days to respond and it is understood they will blame a computer glitch affecting the way the addresses of players appear on a form.

While the club said they are treating the matter with the utmost seriousness they maintain each of the alleged breaches are accidental and by no means intentional actions to evade FA anti-doping procedures.

A West Ham United spokesman said: “The breach relates to administrative oversights on the FA’s whereabouts system, for example a player’s address had been registered and the house number digits transposed, and the club will be responding to the FA in due course. We would like to make it clear that the breach is a club administrative matter and does not concern any of our players.”

2. Samir Nasri was on the team for about 4 minutes and played 5 games. Your big smoking gun is that they signed him after he had already been caught doping. Are you even trying right now? This is pathetic.

3. Robert Snodgrass, banter king, joked to a doping official, saying "Haven't you got anything better to be doing?" when they came to the training ground for tests (of which, he wasn't even selected). Again, please show me in detail, how any of this points to extensive doping at West Ham.

I'm honestly shocked you even wasted the time finding and posting those links.

And I don't agree with the premise that "every club" is doping.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

River Plate had a bunch of players suspended due to doping. They claimed it was due to contamination but take that how you like. Not sure who's argument that supports lol.

 

[Savant]

My team has an injury crisis every year, so no, I don't think they "dope".

David Sullivan and Karren Brady are Dopes.

David Moyes is a Do...otball Genius!

 

[Prntscrn]

Tbf elite athletes tend to have asthma at a higher rate compared to us humans due to exercise, combine that with cold weather and you have an even higher rate.

With that said teams and athletes takes every chance they get to legitimate asthma medication, not just in football

 

[Chimaera]

I mean, if anyone is, Adama Traore is doping. But... yeah, I wouldn't be shocked.

Liverpool do have an elite training regimen and tailored meals. They're also at the top of advancements in tracking their cool down and fitness levels. But, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if there was some medicinal help.


Either way, Mane getting Covid is not good. Most likely won't be the last.

 

[YNWA14]

Doping isn't about having big muscles, he's no more likely than anyone else in the game to be on something. Every team is using PEDs, and it's rampant at the top level of every professional sport. It's not a secret.

 

[Evilo]

It goes beyond diet or supposed doping.
Pool has been lucky with injuries. Injuries also happen in games and training through tackles, twists and breaks.

 

[Evilo]

But you know some HFboards experts aren't convinced...
I mean, didn't he fail at Lille?
What's his trophy case again?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I find interesting there's a lot of talk about Bielsa lately... considering he's been coaching for 3 decades now. He is who he is a brilliant, innovative manager but is just to crazy to last long in one place. He's never coached a club team for more than 2 years for a reason.

 

[Savant]

 

[Evilo]

I find interesting there's a lot of talk about Bielsa lately... considering he's been coaching for 3 decades now. He is who he is a brilliant, innovative manager but is just to crazy to last long in one place. He's never coached a club team for more than 2 years for a reason.

Who cares?
He's exciting to watch. And I talked about him years ago.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Who cares?
He's exciting to watch. And I talked about him years ago.

All I'm saying he's been here for awhile, you either appreciate him or don't.

 

[Evilo]

Pretty much. But some EPL fans are only discovering him in real life.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Doping isn't about having big muscles, he's no more likely than anyone else in the game to be on something. Every team is using PEDs, and it's rampant at the top level of every professional sport. It's not a secret.

Right. When MLB had their big investigations for PED's, sure you had a bunch of sluggers that made the headlines, but vast majority were smaller players in the minors looking for every advantage possible to get to the majors. Another thing that isn't talked out with banned substances, is how many drugs that are banned that aren't used for performance enhancing purposes. It might be shocking how many things aren't banned, but it's just as shocking to see how many things are banned.

 

[Savant]

Will start a new one of these after transfer window closes.

 

[Chimaera]

Right. When MLB had their big investigations for PED's, sure you had a bunch of sluggers that made the headlines, but vast majority were smaller players in the minors looking for every advantage possible to get to the majors. Another thing that isn't talked out with banned substances, is how many drugs that are banned that aren't used for performance enhancing purposes. It might be shocking how many things aren't banned, but it's just as shocking to see how many things are banned.

I mean... yeah. It's possible. But the dude also says he "doesn't life weights".

I'm fully aware there are certainly some guys on Liverpool's books who probably juice. I don't even really think I have a problem with it. But it's pretty obvious that some guys have 'transformed' their bodies. The crazy part of some of it, the muscle mass really isn't even the biggest thing for top level pros. It's the ability to get ready and fit for the next match.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I mean... yeah. It's possible. But the dude also says he "doesn't life weights".

I'm fully aware there are certainly some guys on Liverpool's books who probably juice. I don't even really think I have a problem with it. But it's pretty obvious that some guys have 'transformed' their bodies. The crazy part of some of it, the muscle mass really isn't even the biggest thing for top level pros. It's the ability to get ready and fit for the next match.

And you don't have to specifically lift weights to build muscle mass.

You are right, muscle mass is always the trap that people fall into for who they assume uses PEDs. Those drugs/supplements are mainly used for recovery, sometimes it's to get more workouts/trainings in and sometimes it's to recover in between games. And even it's for more workouts/trainings, it doesn't mean those users are doing it to specifically bulk up. That's why it's silly to just blindly assume some are dirty and some are clean. Not saying you or any other posters are doing that, just saying as a general statement.

 

[Chimaera]

You're right, you don't. But I mean, the dude looks like Hercules. Genes play a part. For sure.

I just guess having lived through the baseball stuff full force, I question all of it.

 

[VEGASKING]

You can watch his training videos on youtube. Football players aren't using weights to bench press and whatnot. They use tension equipment and thus "don't lift weights."