Friedman: Predicts Avs Will Go “Big-Game Hunting”

[JoemAvs]

I think the Avs would be hesitant to give up a roster player. 1st + 2nd + Bowers/Kaut would be my guess.

Problem is that we don't have a 2nd rounder this year and that Bowers/Kaut are having a horrible start in the AHL so far...

That said. I wouldn't give up much more for any type of rental from an Avs POV anyways. But if we are talking about a guy with term like Rakell that certainly won't cut it...

 

[CB Joe]

Problem is that we don't have a 2nd rounder this year and that Bowers/Kaut are having a horrible start in the AHL so far...

That said. I wouldn't give up much more for any type of rental from an Avs POV anyways. But if we are talking about a guy with term like Rakell that certainly won't cut it...

Still have 2nd next year.

Bowers and Kaut are both off to slow starts but I suspect they'll be fine by the new year. The skill is there.

 

[bert]

Wouldn't the Stone trade to VGK be similar to Hall to COL? Maybe a touch more for Hall?

Brannstrom + 2nd + Oscar Lindberg = Stone + Tobias Lindberg
Jost + 2nd + defense prospect not named Byram?

The only reason the sens got that much for Stone was because he had agreed to an extension. Still a horrible trade for Ottawa given Stone was only 26 when it happened but I dont think Jersey gets that much unless Hall agrees to extend.

 

[Slurpeelover27]

Eric Staal.

 

[JoemAvs]

Still have 2nd next year.

Bowers and Kaut are both off to slow starts but I suspect they'll be fine by the new year. The skill is there.

I personally don't like only having 1 pick in the top 2 rounds in the next two drafts. Avs are IMO too young of a team to go all-in like that right now. I was also never a Kaut fan and have my doubts about Bowers offensive game. Don't think they hold as much value right now as we would want and I personally don't think they will be fine by new year. At least not fine enough to get targeted as an asset by a team trading away a bigger fish.

I am a huge Zadorov homer but given that Bednar just simply is not his biggest fan and the upcoming expansion draft putting his future with the Avs very much in doubt, I expect him to be the main piece going to the Devils if Friedman is really implying that the Avs are going for Hall...
I wouldn't like it and I dread signing Hall to an extension and wouldn't be mad at all if a team like Carolina or Dallas outbids the Avs for his services but that seems to be the most likely type of move I see the Avs try to make.
Maybe Kreider is more realistic than Hall given the rumors in the offseason but I probably would personally like that even less...

Hopefully Sakic stays put.

 

[NYR94]

Hall or Kreider

 

[Kaako Kappo]

A playoff team that has plenty of cap is looking to get a big fish? Wow, a bold prediction.

 

[brighteststars]

I personally don't like only having 1 pick in the top 2 rounds in the next two drafts. Avs are IMO too young of a team to go all-in like that right now. I was also never a Kaut fan and have my doubts about Bowers offensive game. Don't think they hold as much value right now as we would want and I personally don't think they will be fine by new year. At least not fine enough to get targeted as an asset by a team trading away a bigger fish.

I am a huge Zadorov homer but given that Bednar just simply is not his biggest fan and the upcoming expansion draft putting his future with the Avs very much in doubt, I expect him to be the main piece going to the Devils if Friedman is really implying that the Avs are going for Hall...
I wouldn't like it and I dread signing Hall to an extension and wouldn't be mad at all if a team like Carolina or Dallas outbids the Avs for his services but that seems to be the most likely type of move I see the Avs try to make.
Maybe Kreider is more realistic than Hall given the rumors in the offseason but I probably would personally like that even less...

Hopefully Sakic stays put.

There is no way Dallas makes a move for Hall. Dallas wouldn't part with the assets required and there is no cap space to make it work.

 

[El Travo]

A playoff team that has plenty of cap is looking to get a big fish? Wow, a bold prediction.

I mean, the Avs haven't exactly been known to be big game hunters for a while so it's not exactly a given that Sakic would pull the trigger.

 

[Jozay]

They should trade for Hall

 

[JoemAvs]

There is no way Dallas makes a move for Hall. Dallas wouldn't part with the assets required and there is no cap space to make it work.

Well Nill was sniffing around basically every big name recently and Dallas is maybe the one team in the league that reasonably could afford giving up the top end D prospect Devils fans are craving in Harley and I could see them make it work capwise if the Devils take back a bit of salary.

But yeah. Its not easy to find a destination for Hall that gives the Devils what they want and that has the capspace necessary to sign Hall to the horrible deal he will command. And if we are talking purely rental, he will probably fetch the usual 1st, conditional pick (potentially another 1st if he re-signs) + B+ prospect....
Thats probably also the most realistic scenario for the Avs getting Hall even though other more desperate teams would probably outbid us anyways.

 

[StreetHawk]

I think the Avs would be hesitant to give up a roster player. 1st + 2nd + Bowers/Kaut would be my guess.

Would be their 1st this year, plus 1 or 2 prospects depending on who they are targeting along with the development of the prospects.

Pretty much any prospect not named Byram, so any of Kaut, Bowers, Newhook, etc. should be in play.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Avs don’t have a Brannstrom level D prospect and Byram is obviously way above Brannstrom’s level.

Because of this they’d probably have to use a higher pick. Here’s what I think is a fair proposal.

Conor Timmins
Justus Annunen
2020 1st
2021 3rd (becomes 2nd if Hall signs)

Annunen is an absolute stud by the way. By the time the WJC is over I’d bet he’s considered one of the best G prospects on the planet. He’s 19 years old and through 11 LIIGA games he has a .952 save percentage and 5 shutouts lol.

Do you guys not need a high level goalie prospect? What is the long term situation there or is Gru the guy until proven otherwise for the next 4-5 years (new contract)? Is there hope Werner is the one to take over at some point?
Timmins is a good piece along with the 1st, even if it's late. NJ has no 2nd or 3rd round pick this year.
It's more quantity than quality but it'd be one of the better offers.

So the plan would be to re-sign Hall but would Landy get re-signed as well with Mack not far behind?
I ask because you do have some big money coming off the year Landy is a UFA but that's also the year Makar probably gets his 7-8 year deal? Do you dare bridge Makar?

The only reason the sens got that much for Stone was because he had agreed to an extension. Still a horrible trade for Ottawa given Stone was only 26 when it happened but I dont think Jersey gets that much unless Hall agrees to extend.

Would Hall not want to re-sign there though?
Mack, Rantanen, Girard, Makar and Byram are some solid teammates to have for the next 6-7 years.
They have the cap to offer him a Stone like deal at $9.5 million

 

[YP44]

Eric Staal.

would be a great fit

 

[Apotheosis]

how could they better with their top line firing on all cylinders if they're already winning with them not? winning by a larger score?

The nights where their depth isn't winning, the top line comes through and vice versa.

 

[Leviathan]

If you look at the 12th Thought, it's about Taylor Hall. So is the comment about Colorado going big game hunting put there right after on purpose? Hard to know since Friedman often talks in coded language.

 

[CalgaryFan1988]

Is that you ekland

Where is this Ekland you speak of? Is it a made up place where people gossip about things that never happened?

 

[Kaako Kappo]

I mean, the Avs haven't exactly been known to be big game hunters for a while so it's not exactly a given that Sakic would pull the trigger.

They've haven't been very good either.

 

[Slurpeelover27]

would be a great fit

Signed 6.5 for 2 years including this one. Still really good player. No clause in contract so can be traded. Seems like good fit to me since Wild going nowhere.

 

[Weast]

Kaut, Timmins, Jost, 2020 1st seem to be the pieces that this trade would have to revolve around

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Colorado has the peices to get it done. Newhook + 2020 1st is a nice package to send NJD, and I’d have to think it would help. Their prospect pool isn’t necessarily booming. To make things worse: neither is their team.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Eric Staal.

Newhook

 

[LT]

Well Nill was sniffing around basically every big name recently and Dallas is maybe the one team in the league that reasonably could afford giving up the top end D prospect Devils fans are craving in Harley and I could see them make it work capwise if the Devils take back a bit of salary.

But yeah. Its not easy to find a destination for Hall that gives the Devils what they want and that has the capspace necessary to sign Hall to the horrible deal he will command. And if we are talking purely rental, he will probably fetch the usual 1st, conditional pick (potentially another 1st if he re-signs) + B+ prospect....
Thats probably also the most realistic scenario for the Avs getting Hall even though other more desperate teams would probably outbid us anyways.

Even if we could make the cap work, Harley is probably as close to untouchable as you can get right now, especially given the way Nill hoards his prospects.

Stars also have no need for another forward. We need a middle pairing RHD more than anything.

 

[Asinine]

Jost+Timmins+2021 2nd (1st if Hall re-signs)

 

[Billdo]

Oh man, Hall in Colorado would be awesome. What would the asking price be?

Byram