Salary Cap: Prediction: PK Subban's Next Contract

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  1. OldCraig71 Registered User

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    So it works for both of us.
     
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    Between 7 and 8 millions. More than 8 would be ridiculous...
     
  3. Agnostic 11 Stanley Cups

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    The signing of Markov and Subban are unrelated. I guess it wouldn't be a Rockjngo thread if the obviously correct option were offered.

    :shakehead
     
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    Its related. Here's why:
    By resigning Subban to a multi year contract, assuming $7-8 million per season. We don't have to resign Markov to a whipping $5-6 million contract and thus moving him for prospects and picks and continue our rebuild.

    By not resigning Subban and possibly moving PK, we need to resign Markov as we have no offensive defenseman to run our powerplay.

    I don't think we can resign both Markov and Subban. $15 million for a 36 year old and a risky Norris Winner.

    Seabrook and Keith cost about $11 million
    Chara and Seidenberg cost $11 million
    Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk cost $16 million
     
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    He already did the hold out when he was a RFA. If he signs that for 2 years, it would indicate he is just biding his time until he is an UFA.
     
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    Of course.. I wouldn't trade him for Pietrangelo though.
     
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    I would trade PK Subban for Pietrangelo. I like Pet's game, very calm and well positioned. He can log big minutes, 6'3" 210lbs skates very well. Can QB the point and should be a future Norris Winner. What he lacks is to take over game like PK but isn't risky like PK. Finally Pet is signed at $6mil for 7 years.
     
  8. Lafleurs Guy Don't Stand So Close To Me

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    You are right on both counts. MB was an idiot for not doing 5 x 5.
    Might not be up to him. PK may want to go short term to see where the cap is at... Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

    No thanks.
     
  9. 8 x 8.5 = 68 M is my guess since the cap will increase signifiantly..
     
  10. Frozenice the random dude

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    The problem isn't with paying Markov and Subban as you see it but rather all these $3 million and $4million contracts cluttering up the payroll. Gorges, Briere, Emelin, Borque and Gionta type contracts that are 1 or 2 too many. That's where we should be paring down instead of in the high rent district.

    I'm okay with trading Markov if his demands are out of line or we can a get a good young player or two for him.
     
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    Hopefully 60.8 over 8 years...would be perfect.
     
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    I think there is a whole lot of validity to what you are saying. I think the Toronto media has had it out for this kid and it has caused a ripple affect. Why does he get booed in just about every arena? I see a good young man who carries himself very well. Maybe the old guard is not willing to accept the flamboyant black kid...there I said it.
     
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    Markov and Subban signed would cost around 13 mil per....too much. Time for the kids...
    Subban should be signed to 7-8 years at 8 mil per.
     
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    Just like we love to have Claude Giroux or Vincent Lecavalier and Dany Briere 7 years ago.

    The Toronto media bashes Subban because:
    1. He's Toronto native playing for arch rival Montreal.
    2. He's black and is a minority.
    3. He's a risky player.
     
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    The Habs aren't in the driver's seat this time. They know they have to sign Subban essentially on his terms. It would probably be less expensive than matching another team's offer sheet for him.
     
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    I'm curious to know, if PK signed a home town discount at say 6.5 (same as what Price makes and not likely) will get more respect or will he be vilified as a moron and ruining the PA?

    We all know what's going to happen when he signs a big deal - greedy, selfish player, only cares about money blah blah. Interested in the other scenario though.
     
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    highly doubt hometown with newport. longer term? maybe like 10 years contract but Montreal won't do that.
     
  18. Spot on. If this organization doesn't give him long term and big money it will be a huge mistake long term. He's a franchise d man and should be paid as such
     
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    hes easily gonna get between 8.5-9m for ~7ish years
     
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    gut feeling says he gets traded.
     
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    That would not surprise me. This management group :shakehead:shakehead.
     
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    Well as frustrating as it is to see Subban benched.. Can't hurt contract negociations in management's favor
     
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    If someone at the top doesn't like PK, it's ego. Maybe it was goat?Gainey? Both are goner so that settles that.

    Perhaps Montreal has received good offers for PK. At the end, I just hope he signs here.
     
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    Subban at 8x8
     
  25. groovejuice Without deviation progress is not possible

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    There is no such thing now as a 10 year contract.

    You keep saying Subban is risky. Care to quantify that?

    IMO, the only risk is to alienate him with a lowball offer.
     

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