Salary Cap: Prediction: PK Subban's Next Contract

[Lafleurs Guy]

So he should get more than Weber, Doughty, Bouwmeester, Suter, Chara.
He should get 20+% more than Pietrangelo, Keith and Karlsson.

According to many on this board, PK should be paid more than any D-men in the league.
And this is because...

1. SCap is going up;
2. SCap is going to be a little bit more than in 2012;
3. PK has won the Norris and will be nominated this year;
4. PK is already the best D-men in the league and should be paid accordingly;

Regarding the Norris, I would say it will be between Keith and Karlsson and most likely Karlsson will win.
Subban should not even be in the top-5. Probably in the top-10...

He is a very good d-men but there are a few in the pipeline that are younger than him:

• Jones;
• Murray;
• OEL;
• Pietrangelo.

So should PK get 8M and be the best paid d-men in the league?

Yes.

His numbers are as good or better than anyone's and he's got the good fortune to be negotiating now that the cap is going up. So yes, he should be paid the most. Then in a couple of years some other blueliner will negotiate when the cap is up higher and they'll make more etc...

And I wouldn't be surprised to see him making more than 8 actually. Esp considering how we ripped him off last time around.

 

[macavoy]

The reason why PK will be the highest paid dman is because of this

So he should get more than Weber, Doughty, Bouwmeester, Suter, Chara.
He should get 20+% more than Pietrangelo, Keith and Karlsson.

According to many on this board, PK should be paid more than any D-men in the league.
And this is because...

1. SCap is going up;
2. SCap is going to be a little bit more than in 2012;
3. PK has won the Norris and will be nominated this year;
4. PK is already the best D-men in the league and should be paid accordingly;

Regarding the Norris, I would say it will be between Keith and Karlsson and most likely Karlsson will win.
Subban should not even be in the top-5. Probably in the top-10...

He is a very good d-men but there are a few in the pipeline that are younger than him:

• Jones;
• Murray;
• OEL;
• Pietrangelo.

So should PK get 8M and be the best paid d-men in the league?

It isn't about being the best, its about being the best available during this next lieu of contracts. That and some of the others have artificially low contracts because of the last CBA.

 

[Monctonscout]

"I'll be honest with you, Hamhuis and P.K. haven't got much of a chance. I mean the pairs are good." - Babcock.

How do you chose Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Jay Bouwmeester with Alex Pietrangelo over Norris Winner PK Subban?

He's obsessed with having an even amount of LH and RH d-men...which is dumb. High end players can play either side.

 

[Monctonscout]

I would try and sell PK on the merits of leaving a bit of money on the table so they can build a team around him. Not that an extra 1 mil makes a huge difference, but PK will retire a very rich man one way or another.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

fair for both sides would be 8 years for 60 million. No need to be greedy, no need to short change your best player.

 

[fsdev905]

What is Subban says **** you Therrien and Bergeron. Your treatment of me has created this ******** myth around my game and characater that's spread like wildfire throughout the league.

I'd rather sit out than sign with you ****ers.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

8 years at $7,600,000 a year.

 

[RealityBytes]

I would say 8 years at $8.2M per year to make Subban happy and prices for players are going up.


Added note: In relooking at it after the Detroit game, I'll revise that number to $7M to $7M+ per year for 6 to 8 years.

 

[Frozenice]

7 years around $51 million - a little over $7 million per year.

2 RFA years @ $6 million = $12 million
5 UFA years @ $7.5 million = $37.5 million
Signing bonus - another $2 or $3 million

 

[Andrei79]

There's a lot I'm not happy about in his game. He's worth 6.75M$/y, but considering the cap and Phaneufs contract, he should look at 7-7.5M, more than that would be hard to justify.

 

[AcadiaAxeMan]

PK will get 8 million+ for as many years as he wants, say 8 @ 8.5 for 68 as thought by others, or north and 75 million (PK will be used by agents as the NEW poster Boy for the increased NHL revenues!)?. Markov IMHO is expendable, as his play from game 40+ this season don't match the first 40. He is very trade worthy to me, for an asset, at this years trade deadline to a real contender! We are "pretenders" at this point this season and next to anyone but a fool!

 

[Lozela]

Sounds like everybody and their mama is playing the game of throwing the guy under the bus. Someone will pay and thats Mr.Molson.

72M/8 yrs

 

[rockjngo]

I've been thinking about PK Subban. I think he's overrated. He's trying to impress Babcock or something this game. Took a silly penalty, Detroit scored. Then in overtime lazy man coverage in front of the net. He's never had over 38 points a season. I know he won the Norris Trophy and stuff. But is the guy worth $8 million a season for next 7 years?

What would teams give up if PK was available? Nathan MacKinnon? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

 

[Agnostic]

I've been thinking about PK Subban. I think he's overrated. He's trying to impress Babcock or something this game. Took a silly penalty, Detroit scored. Then in overtime lazy man coverage in front of the net. He's never had over 38 points a season. I know he won the Norris Trophy and stuff. But is the guy worth $8 million a season for next 7 years?

What would teams give up if PK was available? Nathan MacKinnon? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

I roll my eyes even BEFORE I read your posts. Pure garbage.

 

[WeThreeKings]

For the last time.. that was a bogus ****ing penalty. He barely touched the guy.

 

[Smokey Thompson]

I've been thinking about PK Subban. I think he's overrated. He's trying to impress Babcock or something this game. Took a silly penalty, Detroit scored. Then in overtime lazy man coverage in front of the net. He's never had over 38 points a season. I know he won the Norris Trophy and stuff. But is the guy worth $8 million a season for next 7 years?

What would teams give up if PK was available? Nathan MacKinnon? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

Therrien makes every one of his players look overrated.

Except Price of course.

 

[Monctonscout]

For the last time.. that was a bogus ****ing penalty. He barely touched the guy.

The "roughing" one was pure BS.

 

[Price is Wright]

I've been thinking about PK Subban. I think he's overrated. He's trying to impress Babcock or something this game. Took a silly penalty, Detroit scored. Then in overtime lazy man coverage in front of the net. He's never had over 38 points a season. I know he won the Norris Trophy and stuff. But is the guy worth $8 million a season for next 7 years?

What would teams give up if PK was available? Nathan MacKinnon? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

Plekanec reading your post:

 

[From The Couch]

I'm saying 8.5M for 6 years...

 

[From The Couch]

I've been thinking about PK Subban. I think he's overrated. He's trying to impress Babcock or something this game. Took a silly penalty, Detroit scored. Then in overtime lazy man coverage in front of the net. He's never had over 38 points a season. I know he won the Norris Trophy and stuff. But is the guy worth $8 million a season for next 7 years?

What would teams give up if PK was available? Nathan MacKinnon? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?

i agree with you that he looked like he was trying too hard to impress Babcock last night.. but never had more than 38 points in a season? True, Although, he had 38 pts in 42 GP'd last season. So you're telling me if it wasn't a full season he wouldn't have exceeded 38? And not to mention he has 39 this year.

Are you serious about PK being worth MacKinnon or RNH? Please not be.

 

[FisherKing]

Not necessarily what I'm hoping for but I think it will end up being something like 2-3 Yrs @ 6-6.5 M/yr, although PK might want to go year to year until he's UFA.

 

[sheed36]

Not necessarily what I'm hoping for but I think it will end up being something like 2-3 Yrs @ 6-6.5 M/yr, although PK might want to go year to year until he's UFA.

If Subban's agent insists on something like a 2 year contract I see that as the worst possible thing that could happen for the Habs. That would take Subban to UFA and if MB doesn't get a sense that Subban will sign long term you have some decisions to make. There's no way the Habs can afford to take a chance on Subban walking for nothing.

Hopefully Subban signs long term before next season to avoid any of this.

 

[coolasprICE]

I am very big stats guy like many of you know and I have a model that produces salary projection taking into account the last 345 shifts.

Subban has unfortunately lost 20.756849 million dollars as a result of his last 2 games.

We have him now at 8 years @ 3.956542 million per.

 

[FisherKing]

If Subban's agent insists on something like a 2 year contract I see that as the worst possible thing that could happen for the Habs. That would take Subban to UFA and if MB doesn't get a sense that Subban will sign long term you have some decisions to make. There's no way the Habs can afford to take a chance on Subban walking for nothing.

Hopefully Subban signs long term before next season to avoid any of this.

Like I said, the scenario I described is not necessarily what I'm hoping for but, given what's transpired to date with the last contract negotiations and the "Therrien influence" since then, I expect PK to really hold Bergevin's "feet to the fire" in the next go around. PK will still be an RFA, but will be UFA in what? 2 years? 3? The "proving yourself" can go both ways. PK might have to prove he's worth keeping, but I would, if I'm PK, argue that Bergevin has to prove to PK that he wants to be part of the Habs long term. I think if Bergevin wants to sign PK long term, he's really going to have to "pay through the nose" as in 8M+ per year for like 8 years. Not sure Bergevin is going to be prepared to do that. In that case, both PK and Bergy might decide on a shorter 2-3 year contract at a lesser amount, say 6-6.5 per year and see how things shake down. Should be interesting in any event.

 

[JLP]

PK (w/Prust) on the importance of dressing well, which is not cheap

He likes the Euros' style: Lundqvist best-dressed NHLer

$7.6m per, max term ftw