Poll; Buy, Sell, or Hold ?
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Snuggs
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Well what the heck, now we're assuming a Markstrom trade? In any event, They're best prospect is in the AHL doing well. I'd assume he'd get 50/50 split for six weeks vs taking on 4 million next year in cap.
Just my thoughts...
The whole thing about Markstrom though is different than just trading off Husso, which is what I thought you were suggesting.
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Snuggs
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Whoa, hey don't clump me into wanting Markstrom, I just support the Husso dump.
To be fair though, all his numbers are better than any of the Red Wings goalies, so, Idk.
It really is going to be a fascinating TDL and I believe Yzerrman and co. will need to be prepared for any of the 3 options.
Not sure if it was posted in here or not but I read Lalonde would like a depth forward with versatility. A guy that can contribute in different ways. He wants another C/W hybrid.
Seems a little redundant but I guess they probably prefer guys like veleno and Ras on the wing.
IDK. This team is in a weird spot. Everyone in the org wants to see a playoffs appearance. As fans we want to see it. On the other hand this team needs to have a longer term focus. Perhaps that's Lalonde's thought process regarding adding a depth guy? Get *some* help for a low cost.
I don't see them selling unless they meltdown like last year.
Not sure if it was posted in here or not but I read Lalonde would like a depth forward with versatility. A guy that can contribute in different ways. He wants another C/W hybrid.
Seems a little redundant but I guess they probably prefer guys like veleno and Ras on the wing.
IDK. This team is in a weird spot. Everyone in the org wants to see a playoffs appearance. As fans we want to see it. On the other hand this team needs to have a longer term focus. Perhaps that's Lalonde's thought process regarding adding a depth guy? Get *some* help for a low cost.
I don't see them selling unless they meltdown like last year.
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There are 3 goalies for a reason. Don't see a goalie trade. 1 is injured - you have to have 2 guys to go.
GROUP A
I don't see Yzerman trading any of our "rentals" (pending UFAs). Those guys are our guys for the playoff push. You don't have to buy any, these were collected already from free agency - for free.
- Patrick Kane
- David Perron
- Daniel Sprong
- Christian Fischer
- Shayne Gostisbehere
- James Reimer
All would be nice add-ons for playoff contenders - BUT... THAT's US - THE DETROIT RED WINGS - a playoff team!
GROUP B
I'm quite sure Yzerman also never sells a player, who he signed for multi-year and who is on his 1st year as a Wing. These players are like.
- Klim Kostin
- Jeff Petry
- Justin Holl
Think he always likes to see at least 1,5 seasons, how it goes and how the summer (training) goes by. Will be more familiar of the personality etc. One hot streak or cold streak does not impact on his decisions. Maybe after one bad season, there's a good season. Maybe one good season is a fluke, and there becomes poor 2nd season.
GROUP C
Players who have been multi-years on the team and still have multi-year contracts:
- Robby Fabbri
- Ben Chiarot
- Olli Määttä
- Ville Husso
Think injured Husso goes nowhere, we have these 3 goalies for a reason. One injured and one is needed. Need one to be hot at the playoffs. 3 lottery tickets are more than 2.
If there is a some major trade for a long-term contract, could see one of those guys going as trade particles.
Fabbri has returned his value, as being healthy and scoring well. Also Berggren at prospect side would be ready to take his role.
Same for those LD defencemen. It's Edvinsson waiting on the minors, you could trade one LhD to open a spot.
GROUP D
Other names not mentioned, are part of the long future and near future core. Those won't be traded.
Final conclusion:
If there ever is a trade, main baits are Fabbri and Määttä, because they won't have no-trade clauses, like Chiarot has.
GROUP A
I don't see Yzerman trading any of our "rentals" (pending UFAs). Those guys are our guys for the playoff push. You don't have to buy any, these were collected already from free agency - for free.
- Patrick Kane
- David Perron
- Daniel Sprong
- Christian Fischer
- Shayne Gostisbehere
- James Reimer
All would be nice add-ons for playoff contenders - BUT... THAT's US - THE DETROIT RED WINGS - a playoff team!
GROUP B
I'm quite sure Yzerman also never sells a player, who he signed for multi-year and who is on his 1st year as a Wing. These players are like.
- Klim Kostin
- Jeff Petry
- Justin Holl
Think he always likes to see at least 1,5 seasons, how it goes and how the summer (training) goes by. Will be more familiar of the personality etc. One hot streak or cold streak does not impact on his decisions. Maybe after one bad season, there's a good season. Maybe one good season is a fluke, and there becomes poor 2nd season.
GROUP C
Players who have been multi-years on the team and still have multi-year contracts:
- Robby Fabbri
- Ben Chiarot
- Olli Määttä
- Ville Husso
Think injured Husso goes nowhere, we have these 3 goalies for a reason. One injured and one is needed. Need one to be hot at the playoffs. 3 lottery tickets are more than 2.
If there is a some major trade for a long-term contract, could see one of those guys going as trade particles.
Fabbri has returned his value, as being healthy and scoring well. Also Berggren at prospect side would be ready to take his role.
Same for those LD defencemen. It's Edvinsson waiting on the minors, you could trade one LhD to open a spot.
GROUP D
Other names not mentioned, are part of the long future and near future core. Those won't be traded.
Final conclusion:
If there ever is a trade, main baits are Fabbri and Määttä, because they won't have no-trade clauses, like Chiarot has.
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Shaman464
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“Getting experience sometime” feels like being in the one spot no one wants to be in, bubble team purgatory. They still don’t have any high end players, no blue chip prospects and are barely making the playoffs on the back of an overachieving career journeyman back up goaltender and skaters who are unlikely to be better next year than they are this year. This isn’t the year you push to make the playoffs. This is the year you cash in on your older and overachieving players.
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Sell your wet blankets somewhere else. Detroit is absolutely making the playoffs this year, with or without a trade deadline addition. If they trade for a top 4 defenseman and then ship off a surplus veteran defender, that's fine. But the days of prioritizing picks over wins is long gone.
This is the first playoff season of many over the next decade. And Boston had better bring their A game if that don't want a very uncomfortable experience.
I say stand pat. This team still isn't a cup contender even with a big trade at the deadline. Roll with what you got, get the young guys some playoff experience and who knows they might provide us with a first round upset in the process
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Ulysses31
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IMO 1)trading away depth 2)losing the best PP specialist D-man on the team is not giving DRW the best chance to a)make the playoffs and b)be competitive in the playoffs which i believe is essential for the growth of this team.
On top of that it could mess with team chemistry and be interpretted negatively by the locker room.
Ed could be as good as or better than Ghost alrdy but what if he isn't ready? or what if he is ready but DRW pp perchentage starts to nosedive after ghost is traded? What if Ghost traded and top 4 roster D-man is injured? Who to call up then?
Just safer/better overall not to trade him IMO.
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Best PP specialist ist rather an easy statement, because he is the only PP specialist on this roster. Is he the PP defenseman? Not in my opinion: Seider is outproducing him on per minute basis regardless if you take goals or expected goals, while palying with lesser support cast on the second unit. Seider is also less prone to give up a SHG and a better puck transporter and more useful at zone entries.
As for lockerroom, it's not like Ghost is known for his leadership, if return will be re-invested nobody will be upset.
I don’t mind Ghost but with the way games get called in the Playoffs, he will end up a liability for us. Better to get something now, and then bring up Edvinsson to get acclimated.
I guess the vote doesn't make that much sense, because it's not about a general direction. It's all about winning the trades and getting more value in than you ship out.
You tell me we get two high 1sts in two trades that are clear wins, but it might cost us this years playoffs again? Doesn't matter, I'lll take them. That's how you open up a very long contending window.
You tell me we can get a serious, long term upgrade? Like a #1 or #2 DMan to extend and build around for years to come? Go ahead, sell picks if necessary - if they're not too high, not too many, an overall win - I'll take that one, too.
You tell me we get two high 1sts in two trades that are clear wins, but it might cost us this years playoffs again? Doesn't matter, I'lll take them. That's how you open up a very long contending window.
You tell me we can get a serious, long term upgrade? Like a #1 or #2 DMan to extend and build around for years to come? Go ahead, sell picks if necessary - if they're not too high, not too many, an overall win - I'll take that one, too.
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Ulysses31
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I get the appeal as a hockey nerd/armchair GM but no GM would would do that sort of unnecessary gamble n I wouldnt either if i was a real GM. would be shocked if hes moved.
Ulysses31
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ofc depends on the return. bad optics if GM trades D man for futures then team starts to play shitty/gets swept/misses playoffs
Yes, that what i mean by being bad at their job - everybody cates about optics and not about improving their teams and dressing the best possible roster.
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After watching Blues game I changed from buy to Yzerman choice.
Holden Caufield
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I was a little more inspired by the Blues game.
Left me pondering why we should just be happy to make the playoffs.
Boston isn’t as strong on paper this year and awful lately.
Tampa Bay is on shakey ground.
Toronto has that well earned playoff reputation.
So Florida, Rangers and Canes are so big and bad that we are completely dead in the water? We can’t have any hope for a fairy tale type of run ?
Maybe I’m being too optimistic after a big game or drinking the Lyon Kool aid… I do actually think Florida is a beast.
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I know I'm coming off the high of the St. Louis win but unless this team majorly stumbles before the blueline it would be pretty cutthroat of Yzerman to move anyone.
That's not to say he wouldn't do it, but it would have to be something he really believed helps the team for the long term.
That's not to say he wouldn't do it, but it would have to be something he really believed helps the team for the long term.
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