GDT: PO #3 | Penguins at FLYERS | Sun., April 15, 2018, 3:00 pm ET | NBC, CBC, TVA Sports

[Beef Invictus]

This isn’t Xbox, and it’s not Mighty Ducks. You can’t play your best players 60 minutes each game, and you need balance in your attack.

He never claimed anything like what you have in your "rebuttal". Wanna try again?

 

[Redpath]

Just so we have it straight:

a) the following Flyers suck:

Filppula,
Simmonds,
Raffl,
Weal,
Weiss,
Macdonald,
Manning,
Gudas,
Lehtera,
Elliott,
Mrazek.

and

b) the coach sucks for not having that cadre of suckos ahead of the defending Stanley Cup Champions in an opening round playoff series.

No, the issue is that the coach is severely limiting the chance his team has of winning by utilizing awful deployment of his worthwhile players

 

[JXC]

sigh....honest question. Do you think HAK had a good game? Do you think he did everything he could have to impact the game in a positive way?

Yes.

The Pens are faster deeper stronger better.

 

[FLYguy3911]

In reality Simmonds in closer to a scratch than a promotion.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

This isn’t Xbox, and it’s not Mighty Ducks. You can’t play your best players 60 minutes each game, and you need balance in your attack.

60 minutes is similar to 12. Good point.

 

[Jray42]

This isn’t Xbox, and it’s not Mighty Ducks. You can’t play your best players 60 minutes each game, and you need balance in your attack.

What a straw man argument; come on JXC, you're better than that.

He didn't play Konecny nearly enough.

 

[baudib1]

Given they were trailing almost all game, this was as bad an offensive performance as you're gonna see. Pittsburgh isn't a great defensive team, but they don't give you time or space in the offensive zone. This should create passing lanes and opportunities if you're sharp, but we couldn't connect on a pass all night and half our forwards can't even accept passes cleanly.

 

[JXC]

The roster is flawed, and the coach emphasizes those flaws with poor choices.

The “poor choices” you refer to is really just one; he puts these guys in the ice:

Filppula,
Simmonds,
Raffl,
Weal,
Weiss,
Macdonald,
Manning,
Gudas,
Lehtera,
Elliott,
Mrazek

 

[JojoTheWhale]

In reality Simmonds in closer to a scratch than a promotion.

He’s Sam Gagner with a different PP spot at this point. I hope he’s just hurt and breaks the bank (elsewhere).

 

[JXC]

No, the issue is that the coach is severely limiting the chance his team has of winning by utilizing awful deployment of his worthwhile players

I disagree.

If Konecny was on the top line, he’d be shut down the way Giroux has been.

You can’t beat a team like the Pens with one line.

 

[Tripod]

Yes.

The Pens are faster deeper stronger better.

Well then there is nothing else to say if you think Hak did everything in his power to win today.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The “poor choices” you refer to is really just one; he puts these guys in the ice:

Filppula,
Simmonds,
Raffl,
Weal,
Weiss,
Macdonald,
Manning,
Gudas,
Lehtera,
Elliott,
Mrazek

Oh, you must have missed my posts where I go into detail about situational mistakes with players as well as overplaying bad players while underplaying better ones.


There are a lot of them. I'm not sure how you missed....wait, you haven't missed them. I've gone into this with you in detail. You had absolutely no answer.


Maybe you should adjust your opinions in light of the fact that they fail under basic scrutiny.

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds on their way to Phantoms

 

[Rebels57]

As I suspected the special teams play was a major factor in TKs ice time.

Sanheim led us in ES ice time which is cool.

 

[Nizzle]

Mrazek, Simmonds and a 2nd for...?

 

[deadhead]

Konecny doesn't play PP1 or PK, that's where the time discrepancy came in.

 

[JXC]

60 minutes is similar to 12. Good point.

You people object whenever Hakstol sends one of his sucko players onto the ice.

And they are half his roster.

For me, looking at these two rosters and these three games and concluding that the difference is coaching is lazy thinking.

 

[Redpath]

I disagree.

If Konecny was on the top line, he’d be shut down the way Giroux has been.

You can’t beat a team like the Pens with one line.

Making the Giroux line more effective by replacing Raffl with Konecny would make it harder to shut down. Plus Konecny needs more minutes regardless of where he plays

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Just so we get this straight: Hakstok isn't the problem.

 

[JXC]

Well then there is nothing else to say if you think Hak did everything in his power to win today.

Compare the rosters.

 

[Tripod]

Konecny...12 minutes....no options they say.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

What a straw man argument; come on JXC, you're better than that.

He didn't play Konecny nearly enough.

 

[JXC]

Making the Giroux line more effective by replacing Raffl with Konecny would make it harder to shut down.

Probably.

But then the third line would get totally dominated, because it’d feature three players who suck.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds on their way to Phantoms

Yep, definitely. After putting up 102 points and 85 points, they're getting demoted. Surely.

 

[Nizzle]

So much animosity between the fans of the same team

 

[Redpath]

Probably.

But then the third line would get totally dominated, because it’d feature three players who suck.

We have 1 goal in our 2 losses. There is a desperation for scoring and our own coach is burying one of our top forwards by limiting his minutes. What you’re saying isn’t wrong either, but it’s a calculated risk that needs to be taken