Post-Game Talk: PO #3 | Penguins - 5 @ Flyers - 1 | GAME 3 (L) - What's the next step.

[gertbfrobe16]

thought i got lost and was on the main board with all this finger pointing name calling and such going on in here.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Sportsnet just now-Tim and Sid: "Elliot is awful!"

They’re not lying, but at least he’s a good guy.

 

[deadhead]

You're acknowledging the fact that this team has zero depth, but not applying that to the reason why G and Jake are struggling to produce.

Plug Crosby & Malkin in for G & Jake and I'd bet you'd see similar results.

Crosby and Malkin are better offensive players.
Look at their crazy playoff numbers;
Crosby 151g 61-110 171
Malkin 152g 60-100 160

 

[klutch]

Rumors Nuevy might be healthy.... at least get one good game of glass man before he’s out another 3 weeks.

 

[Striiker]

If Neuvirth can play then we actually have a >0% chance.

 

[Rebels57]

Sportsnet just now-Tim and Sid: "Elliot is awful!"

They're not wrong.

Hextall shit the bed.

 

[Rebels57]

Rumors Nuevy might be healthy.... at least get one good game of glass man before he’s out another 3 weeks.

He would definitely give us the best chance to win the series if he could survive it.

 

[Striiker]

They're not wrong.

Hextall **** the bed.

Still on about that, huh?

 

[Rebels57]

Still on about that, huh?

Yep. Will be until he rectifies the goalie mess.

 

[Striiker]

Yep. Will be until he rectifies the goalie mess.

Injuries tend to cause messes. Can’t really plan for them.

One goalie getting hurt is bad. Both going down is terrible luck. Elliott hasn’t been the same since coming back and it was far too late to do anything about that. Adding Mrazek was definitely a worthy risk, but unfortunately it didn’t pay off.

We knew what our goaltending tandem was and it was the right choice going into this season.

This offseason is the time to make real additions/upgrades, not last year.

 

[Rebels57]

There were other options last summer that look better right now. Hextall took the easiest one by signing the past-his-prime UFA that nobody else wanted. Now heading into this summer we are back to square one, have 2 unreliable goalies under contract for next year, and no idea what our outside options are.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I seriously hope Neuvirth isn’t back next year.

 

[Striiker]

We were looking for a cheap mediocre goalie to be a placeholder and got a cheap and mediocre goalie who is a placeholder.

Mission accomplished.

Also not sure what you mean by “easiest”.

 

[Rebels57]

I seriously hope Neuvirth isn’t back next year.

Only goalie in the organization I can see winning a playoff series but hes so pathetically unreliable that we dont even want him on the team. What a mess.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Only goalie in the organization I can see winning a playoff series but hes so pathetically unreliable that we dont even want him on the team. What a mess.

He’s reliable at making multiple trips to the injured reserve list every year. He’s not a bad goalie when healthy but that basically means nothing. I just want to cut losses with him at this point.

 

[Rebels57]

We were looking for a cheap mediocre goalie to be a placeholder and got a cheap and mediocre goalie who is a placeholder.

Mission accomplished.

Also not sure what you mean by “easiest”.

By easiest option I mean he was a UFA literally nobody else had interest in after his embarassing performance in the playoffs with Calgary.

 

[Striiker]

By easiest option I mean he was a UFA literally nobody else had interest in after his embarassing performance in the playoffs with Calgary.

You have no way to know that or back that up.

 

[Rebels57]

You have no way to know that or back that up.

Only 3 teams were looking for a #1 in the UFA market.

Winnipeg
Philadelphia
Calgary

We didnt want Mason back.
Calgary didnt want Elliott back.
Winnipeg was all over Mason.

Who else would have had interest in Elliott?

 

[Striiker]

Only 3 teams were looking for a #1 in the UFA market.

Winnipeg
Philadelphia
Calgary

We didnt want Mason back.
Calgary didnt want Elliott back.
Winnipeg was all over Mason.

Who else would have had interest in Elliott?

No idea, that’s the point. Nobody does.

 

[Rebels57]

No idea, that’s the point. Nobody does.

We can deduce based on available information.

We do know Hextall targetted Elliott as his guy.

“When a guy like Ron Hextall calls,” said Elliott, referring to the former standout goalie who is now the Flyers’ general manager, “and says he’s liked you for a long time and wanted to get you on his team, it’s pretty special. I wanted to take advantage of that opportunity.”

 

[Striiker]

We can deduce based on available information.

We do know Hextall targetted Elliott as his guy.

“When a guy like Ron Hextall calls,” said Elliott, referring to the former standout goalie who is now the Flyers’ general manager, “and says he’s liked you for a long time and wanted to get you on his team, it’s pretty special. I wanted to take advantage of that opportunity.”

Not that it’s impossible, but you realize that line was a sales pitch to sign the guy, right?

I doubt Hextall has a framed picture of Elliott on his desk.

 

[Starat327]

We can deduce based on available information.

We do know Hextall targetted Elliott as his guy.

“When a guy like Ron Hextall calls,” said Elliott, referring to the former standout goalie who is now the Flyers’ general manager, “and says he’s liked you for a long time and wanted to get you on his team, it’s pretty special. I wanted to take advantage of that opportunity.”

Maybe he was told hed be the#1 here and wasnt given those assurances in Winnipeg. Theres lots of things that go in to players choosing where they sign.

Also, there werent very many option on the market that wouldve gotten in the way of long term plans. Bishop was the only hot commodity, and he woulve required at least a 5 year commitement.

 

[Rebels57]

Not that it’s impossible, but you realize that line was a sales pitch to sign the guy, right?

I doubt Hextall has a framed picture of Elliott on his desk.

Yeah thats certainly possible.

 

[David St Hubbins]

Injuries tend to cause messes. Can’t really plan for them.

One goalie getting hurt is bad. Both going down is terrible luck.

Not entirely bad luck. Partially predictable (Neuvirth), partially improper usage ( Hak unnecessarily riding Elliott). This is something Hextall needs to address, with the (regretfully) returning coach and with the backup role.

 

[Striiker]

I also remember people specifically wanting to go after Mrazek in the summer... so what seems like a good option isn’t always one.