PL Matchweek 9

[Savant]

Let’s put these away please. F’n posts.

 

[Savant]

Jonny Evans tryna have more goals at Anfield than Firmino

Feel like he had one OG here for Utd too? Maybe?

 

[AB13]

Well considering everyone was hailing Arteta as the next Wenger and the guy to turn the club around, is now being called a horrible manager is pretty funny.

Also with the way you talk about the squad you think it’s better than 6th best. Auba is the best striker in the league, Ozil is the greatest playmaker in history, the best prospects in the world, the best CB signing of the year, and the best young CB in the world yet somehow it’s ALL on the manager? Ok.

I have never said any of those things besides Özil being the greatest playmaker of all time. Don’t take the piss and put words in other peoples mouths. I think this squad is sixth best at worst and I have said that for a long time.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I have never said any of those things besides Özil being the greatest playmaker of all time. Don’t take the piss and put words in other peoples mouths. I think this squad is sixth best at worst and I have said that for a long time.

You said Martinelli was one of the best prospects in world football. You have absolutely said Auba was the best striker in the league or at least a contender for it. Maybe it was SEPH who said the stuff about Gabriel, but I’m just basing my post off all the ridiculous stuff I’ve read on this board.

 

[Savant]

For F’s Sake. (Not a PK though). Protect Diogo

 

[Savant]

You’ve got to feel bad for Firmino. He is so snakebitten right now.

 

[AB13]

You said Martinelli was one of the best prospects in world football. You have absolutely said Auba was the best striker in the league or at least a contender for it. Maybe it was SEPH who said the stuff about Gabriel, but I’m just basing my post off all the ridiculous stuff I’ve read on this board.

Martinelli is one of the best prospects in the world, do you genuinely not agree? That does not mean I said we have ”the best prospects in the world”. I said Auba was the best striker in September 2019, which was reasonable at the time considering he won the golden boot in 2019 and finished second in 2020. Gabriel was also a very good signing, don’t talk about him like he has not been one of the best CB signings. Besides, our defence has not exactly been an issue.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Martinelli is one of the best prospects in the world, do you genuinely not agree? That does not mean I said we have ”the best prospects in the world”. I said Auba was the best striker in September 2019, which was reasonable at the time considering he won the golden boot in 2019 and finished second in 2020. Gabriel was also a very good signing, don’t talk about him like he has not been one of the best CB signings. Besides, our defence has not exactly been an issue.

I meant prospect not prospects.

But the gist of what I’m getting at is somehow you have all this incredible talent and literally all of the problems lay at the managers feet? Their the only reason the team isn’t performing well?

 

[YNWA14]

Deserved. Firmino has had a great game.

 

[Canes]

Finally Firmino

 

[Blender]

I was hoping for a better game than this.

 

[Live in the Now]

Simply the best. Half our team hurt? No problem.

 

[S E P H]

You said Martinelli was one of the best prospects in world football. You have absolutely said Auba was the best striker in the league or at least a contender for it. Maybe it was SEPH who said the stuff about Gabriel, but I’m just basing my post off all the ridiculous stuff I’ve read on this board.

To be honest, Martinelli is one of the best prospects in the footballing world. I wouldn't go as far to say he's top 3 but top 10-15 is extremely reasonable. Additionally, just because I said Gabriel is one of the best signings of the summer doesn't mean he is one of the best defenders. Its just that he's been a steady and very solid signing which we can build upon for the future of our squad so we can reach the top 4 including trophies.

 

[Savant]

Simply the best. Half our team hurt? No problem.

I love how every year Leicester is supposed to beat LFC and then This happens.

this is the weirdest crisis ever. Should be top of the league with 22 points right now.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

It is insane and now they lost another player with Keita. Insane bad luck.

 

[Machinehead]

Feel like he had one OG here for Utd too? Maybe?

Bobby just passed him back up

 

[Burner Account]

That was the most uncertain I'd felt going into a match since City home a year ago. Statement performance for me. Still going to do the business with 1/4 of our back line.

I know he finally got his goal but the Firmino thing has concerned me for some time. If they haven't already, Edwards and Klopp should be figuring out their succession plan at striker - whether that's playing a front three of Mane - Salah - Jota or buying a true #9. I forget which game but didn't they use that front three with Firmino deeper recently?

 

[YNWA14]

That was a really complete performance from Liverpool. Really nice to see that against a pretty strong Leicester side. I wish the injuries would stop piling up though.

 

[AB13]

I meant prospect not prospects.

But the gist of what I’m getting at is somehow you have all this incredible talent and literally all of the problems lay at the managers feet? Their the only reason the team isn’t performing well?

They are the main reason, yes. 75% of it at least. Emery was not nearly as much to blame as Arteta though, even though he underperformed. He had the same main problem as Arteta though, trying to coach every phase and scenario on the pitch, telling the players where to play every pass from the sidelines. Both managers have allowed no fluidity in the final third with their static, slow systems based on strict positioning, which deviates from the most simple principle in coaching an attack, letting the players rely on natural creative instincts. They were also both overly pragmatic with a squad who suits offensive play. This restricted us hugely.

Emery was sacked in November, one point off fifth after missing out on top 4 by one point in the season before despite having to start Mkhitaryan, Iwobi, Sokratis and Mustafi every week. Arteta has made us worse in almost every statistical category with a much better squad. If you think Arteta is not the main problem, you are not looking at the big picture. You say we have all of this talent? Our squad is the flirta, fifth or sixth best, that is quite poor. Never said our squad is good, but it is good enough to challenge for top 4.

 

[Machinehead]

Me sitting in my lounge chair after that game

 

[Live in the Now]

This constant Arsenal thread derailment about how good their squad is every single time they get a bad result, is very tiring. They are in 11th place after 9 matches. They finished 8th place last season. Give it a rest. Your squad sucks.

 

[The Abusement Park]

They are the main reason, yes. 75% of it at least. Emery was not nearly as much to blame as Arteta though, even though he underperformed. He had the same main problem as Arteta though, trying to coach every phase and scenario on the pitch, telling the players where to play every pass from the sidelines. Both managers have allowed no fluidity in the final third with their static, slow systems based on strict positioning, which deviates from the most simple principle in coaching an attack, letting the players rely on natural creative instincts. They were also both overly pragmatic with a squad who suits offensive play. This restricted us hugely.

Emery was sacked in November, one point off fifth after missing out on top 4 by one point in the season before despite having to start Mkhitaryan, Iwobi, Sokratis and Mustafi every week. Arteta has made us worse in almost every statistical category with a much better squad. If you think Arteta is not the main problem, you are not looking at the big picture. You say we have all of this talent? Our squad is the flirta, fifth or sixth best, that is quite poor. Never said our squad is good, but it is good enough to challenge for top 4.

Arteta isn’t helping but I really think you’re overrating the overall ability of the squad in general. There’s only so much a manager can do with a limited squad.

 

[AB13]

Wait and see. If a new manager who even as much as understands the basics of coaching too level football comes in, I will enjoy going back to your stupid, ridiculous comments. Get off your high horse because Liverpool are in a period of relevance after 20 years.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Wait and see. If a new manager who even as much as understands the basics of coaching too level football comes in, I will enjoy going back to your stupid, ridiculous comments.

Look man I’m going through the same shit with United. You just gotta accept that you aren’t a powerhouse anymore and the club has done a bad job bringing in talent.

 

[Savant]

This constant Arsenal thread derailment about how good their squad is every single time they get a bad result, is very tiring. They are in 11th place after 9 matches. They finished 8th place last season. Give it a rest. Your squad sucks.

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