GWT: PL Matchweek 21

[Jussi]

He's 17 and they don't want to overwhelm him and ruin his development.

He turned 18 on October 1st but your point is right. Solskjär even mentioned how Rooney played almost full minutes every game since 18 and his body wore out at around 30 and how they want to avoid that with Greenwood.

 

[The Abusement Park]

He turned 18 on October 1st but your point is right. Solskjär even mentioned how Rooney played almost full minutes every game since 18 and his body wore out at around 30 and how they want to avoid that with Greenwood.

To be fair Rooney also treated his body like crap and has a stocky build which really accentuated his decline. But point still stands.

 

[hatterson]

I'm trying to think of a good chance United have had. Probably the closest was Pereira's shot, but that's a mediocre chance at best.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He turned 18 on October 1st but your point is right. Solskjär even mentioned how Rooney played almost full minutes every game since 18 and his body wore out at around 30 and how they want to avoid that with Greenwood.

Yes that’s why his body wore out.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yes that’s why his body wore out.

It’s part of it.

 

[hatterson]

To be fair Rooney also treated his body like crap and has a stocky build which really accentuated his decline. But point still stands.

It's also to make sure he has time to grow into the senior game. For all the talent Rashford has, he hasn't development to the level United expected so far in part because he was overwhelmed with responsibility so early. He didn't have a proper chance to learn how to be an effective senior level player, he just had to go out every single night and try to make magic happen.

This year it finally seems to be catching up for Rashford, and United don't want the same nearly 3 years of potential stunted development for Greenwood. They truly believe he can be an absolute world class striker and they want to give him the best chance to get there.

 

[hatterson]

That was a quintessential Ole managerial performance.

 

[AB13]

Controlled possession and created every chance in the first half, and defended solidly in a well organised way. Love nights like this when our mightyness shines through.

Granit Xhaka was exeptional in midfield tonight, completely bossed it alongside Torriera.

 

[Chimaera]

I don't think he offers enough going forward to justify the price tag.

Yeah, if they just wanted defense they could’ve got someone to do that for half.

that said he has been better going forward some of late.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Emi Buendía is killing it for Norwich... has anyone seen him enough?

 

[Jussi]

That was a quintessential Ole managerial performance.

Absence of McT AND Pogba show in these type of game no matter who's in charge.

 

[hatterson]

Absence of McT AND Pogba show in these type of game no matter who's in charge.

It shows mostly because those players hide Ole’s tactical ineptness. McTominay defends well and lets other be more free offensively and Pogba is capable of individual brilliance which is basically what Ole’s system is built on.

 

[hersky77]

Controlled possession and created every chance in the first half, and defended solidly in a well organised way. Love nights like this when our mightyness shines through.

Granit Xhaka was exeptional in midfield tonight, completely bossed it alongside Torriera.

This is what it’s like to be an Arsenal fan.

a win against a united team, that is as woeful as Arsenal

moral victories I guess

 

[S E P H]

Great win, but I don't understand why United were so passive? Arsenal were very structured, but they allowed a 13th place team pretty much dominate ball possession and the middle park. Pepe was the MOTM from either side I saw, first time I think all season you lot saw how he's able to take over a game. Solid defensive performance, but the Arsenal players afterwards were mentioning how the team isn't ready to play Arteta's style. Also said that the fatigue is real and why they fell to Chelsea, nonetheless, I am very much liking everything that Arteta has brought.

 

[Live in the Now]

Great win, but I don't understand why United were so passive? Arsenal were very structured, but they allowed a 13th place team pretty much dominate ball possession and the middle park. Pepe was the MOTM from either side I saw, first time I think all season you lot saw how he's able to take over a game. Solid defensive performance, but the Arsenal players afterwards were mentioning how the team isn't ready to play Arteta's style. Also said that the fatigue is real and why they fell to Chelsea, but nonetheless I am very much liking everything that Arteta has brought.

Because they aren't good. Average squad and very bad manager. Even as weak as their squad has been, they should be in fourth place.

 

[S E P H]

Lacazette was better off going to down.

On a side note, Happy New Year Peeps! It's time to get over this hangover and massive amounts of food.

Arsenal don't dive though, we have two players that go down very easy in Guendouzi and Torreira, but they don't dive.

McGuire, Matic, and you could throw Fred in that group as well are way too slow for the EPL. They're bigger and ageing players, which have a limited amount of mobility and IQ. They got three Xhakas' in that team and Pepe tore them apart. Ozil also had another solid performance I thought.

 

[AB13]

This is what it’s like to be an Arsenal fan.

a win against a united team, that is as woeful as Arsenal

moral victories I guess

Exiting to see massive improvements in performance under Arteta in such a short period of time, at least.

 

[Chimaera]

New manager bounce can be a thing. It’s early days, but it is exciting in some ways if you’re an Arsenal fan I guess. Think getting all four mostly attackers on and up front should be entertaining, but any club who has a clue is still going to abuse that back line.

 

[Savant]

Emi Buendía is killing it for Norwich... has anyone seen him enough?

I’m a fan. Not sure he is top four level but would fit in at a team better than Norwich. Was great In the championship too

 

[Blender]

Arsenal don't dive though, we have two players that go down very easy in Guendouzi and Torreira, but they don't dive.

Pepe took a massive dive off a soft hand to the chest just in the game today...

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I’m a fan. Not sure he is top four level but would fit in at a team better than Norwich. Was great In the championship too

He still very young after his time in Getafe I pretty much thought that was the end of it but it looks like he found his legs in the epl. I wonder if he progress enough would a call up be in order. Way too early to say though.

 

[hersky77]

Exiting to see massive improvements in performance under Arteta in such a short period of time, at least.

cant be worse then what you guys looked like under emery for the last 18 months or so

 

[Jussi]

Great win, but I don't understand why United were so passive? Arsenal were very structured, but they allowed a 13th place team pretty much dominate ball possession and the middle park. Pepe was the MOTM from either side I saw, first time I think all season you lot saw how he's able to take over a game. Solid defensive performance, but the Arsenal players afterwards were mentioning how the team isn't ready to play Arteta's style. Also said that the fatigue is real and why they fell to Chelsea, nonetheless, I am very much liking everything that Arteta has brought.

Did you see that midfield?

 

[Jussi]

Arsenal don't dive though, we have two players that go down very easy in Guendouzi and Torreira, but they don't dive.

McGuire, Matic, and you could throw Fred in that group as well are way too slow for the EPL. They're bigger and ageing players, which have a limited amount of mobility and IQ. They got three Xhakas' in that team and Pepe tore them apart. Ozil also had another solid performance I thought.

Matic yes, But McGuire's fast enough and Fred is more than fast enough.

 

[Jussi]

It shows mostly because those players hide Ole’s tactical ineptness. McTominay defends well and lets other be more free offensively and Pogba is capable of individual brilliance which is basically what Ole’s system is built on.

Just so we're clear, are you suggesting that a better manager would suddenly turn Pereira, Lingard and Fred into offensive dynamos?