GWT: PL Matchweek 11

[CapitalsCupReality]

Omg...

 

[Baxterman]

Damn, flipped over and see this craziness

Was Son's challenge that bad?

No

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I mean, absolutely shockingly awful result.

But that's a yellow card tackle.

 

[Blender]

Tackle was bad, it was through the back and a bit high, but it didn't cause the horrific injury.

 

[hatterson]

Damn, flipped over and see this craziness

Was Son's challenge that bad?

I went back and watch a replay because the broadcast wasn't showing it. It wasn't a stonwall red on it's own, but it was a hack at the back leg.

It wasn't the challenge itself that broke the ankle, but was how he landed after it.

 

[Jack Straw]

Reminds me of Gordon Hayward's injury.

 

[AB13]

And here I thought with how Spurs were doing we’d be spared of this nonsense again.

Son is one of the most likeable players out there. Horrible.

Son is probably the easiest to hate player in world football, dives non stop, complains about everything to the refs, plays incredibly dirty and is disrespectful towards most opponents. Never ever seen such a diver. Horrible what happened though, that probably was not his intention. But the tackle was inexusably dangerous.

Son is not the one to feel sorry for here.

 

[hatterson]

I mean, absolutely shockingly awful result.

But that's a yellow card tackle.

I have zero issues with a yellow being upgraded to a red when the result of a bad challenge is a guys career potentially ending.

 

[Blender]

I went back and watch a replay because the broadcast wasn't showing it. It wasn't a stonwall red on it's own, but it was a hack at the back leg.

It wasn't the challenge itself that broke the ankle, but was how he landed after it.

Yea the way he went down into Aurier was brutal.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Aggressive tackle, certainly a foul combined with the opponent in a unfortunate vulnerable spot.

Terrible luck all around.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I have zero issues with a yellow being upgraded to a red when the result of a bad challenge is a guys career potentially ending.

agreed. Inadvertent or not, if you destroy a player, you have to go.

 

[Baxterman]

agreed. Inadvertent or not, if you destroy a player, you have to go.

How does that make any sense?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

How does that make any sense?

how does it not lol?

 

[hatterson]

Probably gonna be 10 or 11 minutes of stoppage time between the injury and VAR stoppages.

 

[Baxterman]

how does it not lol?

You should get punished for the act not the result.

If I tap you on the leg and you fall awkwardly and break your leg I shouldn't get punished because you feel awkwardly. The punishment should be on the act not whether a player gets hurt or not because of it.

 

[Halladay]

Probably gonna be 10 or 11 minutes of stoppage time between the injury and VAR stoppages.

12 minutes. never seen it this much before tbh.

 

[hatterson]

How does that make any sense?

There's a clear difference between a routine challenge that happens to have brutal results and a kick at a guys back leg that wasn't remotely close to the ball that ends up destroying his ankle.

If you're putting in a cynical or reckless challenge, you bear a certain responsibility for the results.

 

[Blender]

There's a clear difference between a routine challenge that happens to have brutal results and a kick at a guys back leg that wasn't remotely close to the ball that ends up destroying his ankle.

If you're putting in a cynical or reckless challenge, you bear a certain responsibility for the results.

Agreed, it was a terrible tackle that could have caused an injury. He took that risk when he made it, and that the injury wasn't directly from the tackle doesn't matter, it was still reckless and resulted in an injury.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Yeah, looking at the result to determine the penalty doesn't make a lot of sense to me and has it's own set of problems.

Players have to go off because of yellow card challenges all the time and sometimes have long layoffs that you have no idea about at the time. Because in this case you can openly diagnose it it's a red, but in cases where only scans after the fact determine the scope of damage it's okay to keep at a yellow? In cases where players are forced off because of a challenge, should they always be upgraded to red?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

That’s a red and pretty clear one too. He got him from the back. And he should get 3 games

 

[Baxterman]

There's a clear difference between a routine challenge that happens to have brutal results and a kick at a guys back leg that wasn't remotely close to the ball that ends up destroying his ankle.

If you're putting in a cynical or reckless challenge, you bear a certain responsibility for the results.

That's a terrible way to ref but I understand that with emotions involved it is the way that it goes.

If Aurier isn't there and Gomez just falls and that is called a yellow card it seems stupid to give a red card just because Aurier happened to be there for Gomez to hit when Son made the exact same play in each case. Unless you think that he made the play hoping that Gomez would hit Aurier which I think we all agree was not what happened.

 

[Burner Account]

Just seen the replay and Gomes foot appears to be 90 degrees out of place

 

[Halladay]

Typical Spurs.

 

[Blender]

Just seen the replay and Gomes foot appears to be 90 degrees out of place

Yes it did, that was brutal.

 

[hatterson]

That's a terrible way to ref but I understand that with emotions involved it is the way that it goes.

If Aurier isn't there and Gomez just falls and that is called a yellow card it seems stupid to give a red card just because Aurier happened to be there for Gomez to hit when Son made the exact same play in each case. Unless you think that he made the play hoping that Gomez would hit Aurier which I think we all agree was not what happened.

Aurier made it look awkward, but his presence didn't actually do anything. It was due to how he landed on it before he even got to Aurier.

Son tried to break up the play a few seconds before, the Everton player rode it out and passed forward to Gomes. Son made a terrible challenge on Gomes to try to break up the play. It was on the high end of yellow as it was. The contact from Son kicking Gomes back leg caused him to twist awkwardly in the air and then his ankle landed bad under him and clearly broke. Then Gomes rolled into Aurier.