Value of: PK Subban to the Leafs.

[McRpro]

Before we get started I am aware of PK's year in NJ, and I am aware of what he makes but here is the thing, I don't believe we are seeing the real PK in NJ, even in his last year in Nashville he was on pace for 40 points had he played 82 games and yet he had a "down" year.

You then take him and put him on one of the worst teams in hockey and then act surprised when he doesn't produce at his normal.

It's not like he's 36 he's only 30 he's not done.

I think if you take him nd you put him on a team with as much talent as the Leafs have you'd see what PK REALLY has left.

If the Devils are embracing the rbuildd and they appear to be he should be available.
The catch is I don't think any team takes on the whole 9 million.

And yes Leafs CAN fit him in, they have the LTIR space with Ceci on LTIR with no core pieces to sign.

You sure about that?

 

[bobholly39]

Some teams in the league today are a big risk away from being able to win a cup.

Leafs have been top 3 in the division for a few years now - but let's be honest, top 3 is really more #3. And this year - they're slipping right now, it's not even for sure they make the playoffs yet. So as good of a core and base that they have - actually going all the way through to winning a cup may not seem that close.

PK is a big risk, a big gamble. If he tanks - his huge salary is a problem. He's also had history of not always getting along with teammates/coaches or causing locker room issues (which I personally think is BS - but we've all heard the stories), which could also be a concern.

Flipside is. Even in his down year in Nashville - he was their best player in the playoffs last year. He's been their best player in pretty much every playoff run, including the cup finals run (him and Rinne). He was great in every post season with Montreal. He's also an extremely passionate, proud player. Playing in his hometown, and a hockey market as huge as Toronto, would likely be a huge motivator for him.

It's a big gamble. But I could see one version of this story where Leafs acquire PK, and together they go on to win a cup. I doubt Leafs are willing to take on such a gamble though.

 

[Ashdown2]

can ppl stop suggesting this ... subban is garbage even at 50% retention

 

[BlueBaron]

So the leafs are not a fit since they have little talent on D.

Bit of a fail. Tell me again how Rielly, Barrie and Muzzin have no talent.....

 

[Muikea Bulju]

Why on earth would anyone be taking on PK freaking Subban?

A very, very bad defenseman nowadays. Not even mentioning his albatross of a contract.

 

[Muikea Bulju]

can ppl stop suggesting this ... subban is garbage even at 50% retention

Garbage? Nuclear waste is more like it.

 

[Liferleafer]

So the leafs are not a fit since they have little talent on D.

No, they have talent, just not sure have a guy that can carry Subban at this point.

 

[easton117]

Last I saw him play I couldn’t believe it was the same guy from just a few years ago.

Guy has dead eyes now. Like a caged lion for a decade.

Maybe being in a hockey first market would rejuvenate him a bit but there’s zero chance Id be the one swinging the deal.

 

[TheScandal89]

If whats holding him back is lack of interest and coming home will turn him into the player he used to be then it'd be interesting. But sounds too much like a fairy tale, I mean its the Leafs were talking about here right

I see even the minimum of a 4.5 million cap hit at 50% being too much of a gamble of a guy whos not exactly known to be a defensively solid d man though. The price likely wouldnt be much to get him imo, but the cap space is too valuable.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Something must have happened to PK.

I mean the last couple seasons have been mediocre to bad.

Did he get an injury he never really quite recovered from or something.

I mean he looks so much slower. He has completely lost that flash he once had in spades.

No more coast to coast skating, he doesn't really bring up the puck like he used to.

I don't know what happened but that's a steep decline in almost 2 years.

Add the 9 million dollar contract and he's a tough sell to trade right now.

If NJ are to trade him and get anything of value there will need to be some major retention. Like 30% minimum.

 

[Kaner9]

I love pk but hes not helping anybody this season. He could be good for Toronto next year maybe Kap + for pk big risk big reward.

 

[Liferleafer]

I love pk but hes not helping anybody this season. He could be good for Toronto next year maybe Kap + for pk big risk big reward.

Easy pass.

 

[Rec T]

I think the poster was being sarcastic

This place really needs a funny button

(not for your comment btw, I agree with it)

 

[Mrfenn92]

No reason for jersey to trade him now at all.

 

[HabsAddict]

I was a huge fan or PK......but the high life and publicity kissing has reduced him to a bottom 6 nobody.

I'm not sure he wants to rebound or he cares that much more about the game. The Leafs could trade for him, but he's just as likely to be a distraction as he can be helpful.

Sadly.....he's rewriting his history into "don't do this to your hockey career".

 

[Knave]

It has to be injuries and anyone taking PK Subban would be doing it as a salary dump. Feel bad for the guy, it always sucks when injuries take the joy, excitement and ability to play at a high level.

 

[Hogan86]

Before we get started I am aware of PK's year in NJ, and I am aware of what he makes but here is the thing, I don't believe we are seeing the real PK in NJ, even in his last year in Nashville he was on pace for 40 points had he played 82 games and yet he had a "down" year.

You then take him and put him on one of the worst teams in hockey and then act surprised when he doesn't produce at his normal.

It's not like he's 36 he's only 30 he's not done.

I think if you take him nd you put him on a team with as much talent as the Leafs have you'd see what PK REALLY has left.

If the Devils are embracing the rbuildd and they appear to be he should be available.
The catch is I don't think any team takes on the whole 9 million.

And yes Leafs CAN fit him in, they have the LTIR space with Ceci on LTIR with no core pieces to sign.

No. Dont want PK. Would rather keep playing Lili and Sandin then bring PK in.

 

[The Man with a Plan]

No no no
No no
NO

A well used and on the downslope of his career Subban is not wanted or needed.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I'd rather chop my balls off

 

[JKG33]

I wouldn't trade Ceci alone for Subban at 50% retained. Dont want that turd anywhere near my team

 

[Dragao6]

Was dubas not in on pk in offseasons or last season...devils weren't willing to retain as much as leafs hoped?

Now hes not traded for kappy, ceci for sure but this season hasn't apparently helped pk's value so def buying low here if at all

I'd try it, I love pk, maybe he would kick this teams players butts for doing what their doing and he may be one of few rhd out there left with some value that isn't worth gold

 

[rosscow]

Subban @ 50% plus there 1st round pick this year for Ceci. And that's only if the leafs have a team to dump Subban too.

He has been a dumpster fire for the last 2 years making $9 mil. He is worthless as a player now. Hold on to him and hope he can recover or buy him out after next year.

 

[Mikenusca]

Before we get started I am aware of PK's year in NJ, and I am aware of what he makes but here is the thing, I don't believe we are seeing the real PK in NJ, even in his last year in Nashville he was on pace for 40 points had he played 82 games and yet he had a "down" year.

You then take him and put him on one of the worst teams in hockey and then act surprised when he doesn't produce at his normal.

It's not like he's 36 he's only 30 he's not done.

I think if you take him nd you put him on a team with as much talent as the Leafs have you'd see what PK REALLY has left.

If the Devils are embracing the rbuildd and they appear to be he should be available.
The catch is I don't think any team takes on the whole 9 million.

And yes Leafs CAN fit him in, they have the LTIR space with Ceci on LTIR with no core pieces to sign.

I thought the leafs needed defence. PK won’t provide anything Barrie isn’t already doing

 

[ItWasJustified]

A bag of pucks.

 

[TML1967]

Before we get started I am aware of PK's year in NJ, and I am aware of what he makes but here is the thing, I don't believe we are seeing the real PK in NJ, even in his last year in Nashville he was on pace for 40 points had he played 82 games and yet he had a "down" year.

You then take him and put him on one of the worst teams in hockey and then act surprised when he doesn't produce at his normal.

It's not like he's 36 he's only 30 he's not done.

I think if you take him nd you put him on a team with as much talent as the Leafs have you'd see what PK REALLY has left.

If the Devils are embracing the rbuildd and they appear to be he should be available.
The catch is I don't think any team takes on the whole 9 million.

And yes Leafs CAN fit him in, they have the LTIR space with Ceci on LTIR with no core pieces to sign.

Wait till Seattle comes in, PK gets compliance bought out, and give him a 1 year show me deal.