Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish - Part VIII

[Joejosh999]

DK on Downie:

A. Lane: At some point, might the Penguins lack of discipline catch up with them, only the Winnipeg Jets have more power-play opportunities against? It is great that they are killing them off at a high rate, but special teams can be streaky.

DK: It’s a dangerous, double-edged sword having players like Steve Downie, Bobby Farnham, even Robert Bortuzzo, who agitate and instigate. Because you want those players distracting the opponent. It’s got value. But at the same time, especially in the case of Downie, you’re going to get the loose-cannon minors. There have only been a dozen games all season in which Downie has not taken a minor. That’s indefensible.

 

[Joejosh999]

Re Downie, how many of his penalties are for Being Steve Downie vs Loose Cannon?....

 

[MrBurghundy]

I'd say 70/30 he gets more calls for simply being Steve Downie.

 

[cygnus47]

He also looks like he talks an amazing amount of **** at everyone though, which can't help regardless of how he's playing.

 

[Shady Machine]

Downie takes a few too many ill advised penalties, but he brings so much to this team that I don't really care. He has been a big net positive IMO.

And Farnham, dude draws far more penalties than he takes as far as I can tell (don't have stats handy).

 

[Fordy]

including farnham in any discussion of guys taking too many penalties is a straight ticket to my **** list

 

[IcedCapp]

Farnham "takes" .8 pens per 60. He draws 5 (FIVE) pens per 60.

 

[ProgOg]

"Penguins teammates make case for Martin to stay with organization":

Neither the Penguins nor Martin has initiated any discussion regarding a possible contract extension. Martin's agent, Ben Hankinson, told Trib Total Media in November that he and Martin would be willing to discuss an extension.

Martin's teammates, however, made it clear they hope general manager Jim Rutherford opts to keep the veteran.
“It's not our call,†defenseman Rob Scuderi said. “But we're certainly glad to have him on this team.â€

“I am most comfortable playing with him,†Letang said.

Trading a defenseman of Martin's caliber, however, isn't necessarily a move that a team attempting to win a Stanley Cup would engineer. His teammates don't seem to think it would be a strong idea.
“Not really,†Scuderi said. “Especially with all the injuries we've had.â€

 

[Rocket of Russia]

Let's ask someone else. Could not care less what Scuderi thinks of trading veteran defensemen.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Let's ask someone else. Could not care less what Scuderi thinks of trading veteran defensemen.

But Scuderi is the most veteran defenseman, a leader and has absolutely no self interest in what he says.

The sticking point is if Letang is really the most comfortable playing with Martin and how much that factors into his best performance long term. That could get complicated.

“I don't think it's any secret how important he is to this team,†defenseman Robert Bortuzzo said. “He's a great player and a calming influence. If something needs to be said, he'll say it. He's got that poise. He's good for young guys, too. He's always been a guy for me to bounce things off of.â€

That ******* took Scuderi's role.

Martin ranks second among NHL defensemen in a key defensive category. The Penguins allow only 1.39 goals for every 60 minutes of five-on-five hockey while Martin is on the ice.

“He's a very big part of our team,†Letang said. “He keeps us settled down when we need to settle down. Having him back is a big deal.â€

And Scuderi's other roles. God damn it, Martin is a monster.

 

[ProgOg]

But Scuderi is the most veteran defenseman, a leader and has absolutely no self interest in what he says.

The sticking point is if Letang is really the most comfortable playing with Martin and how much that factors into his best performance long term. That could get complicated.





That ******* took Scuderi's role.




And Scuderi's other roles. God damn it, Martin is a monster.

So, I guess the takeaway here is that 36-year Scuderi really is role model and leader for the young defensemen, and is grooming one of them, 33-year old Martin, to be his replacement? Ideally that means Martin gets a 6-year contract, so he is still there when Scuderi's runs out.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Okay Rob, we'll keep Martin...but guess who's next up to bat?

I've never been a huge Paul Martin fan.
When he's playing well, he's got a good stick and can join a rush(sometimes) or keep a cycle going but he's been here long enough, that i know he isn't essential to this team winning in the playoffs.

Would rather move Despres up and pay 1-2 Million less for a super physical/pk'ing D.

ETA: For me, it boils down to if Erhoff reups here. No sense in having both Erhoff and Martin in my mind.
And a big reason why JR picked Erhoff up. He may be a great replacement if they decide to move Martin.

 

[WVP]

Okay Rob, we'll keep Martin...but guess who's next up to bat?

I've never been a huge Paul Martin fan.
When he's playing well, he's got a good stick and can join a rush(sometimes) or keep a cycle going but he's been here long enough, that i know he isn't essential to this team winning in the playoffs.

Would rather move Despres up and pay 1-2 Million less for a super physical/pk'ing D.

ETA: For me, it boils down to if Erhoff reups here. No sense in having both Erhoff and Martin in my mind.
And a big reason why JR picked Erhoff up. He may be a great replacement if they decide to move Martin.

I am very hesitant to move Martin this year but I wouldn't re-sign him. I would however bring Ehrhoff back for 2 or 3 more years. Wouldn't go over 4 there. Dump Scuderi somehow, that's the bad contract.

Maatta - Letang
Ehrhoff - Despres
Pouliot - Harrington

That is a STACKED defense. Lots of options there. Harrington has a lot of Martin in his game so he could play with Letang. Or put Ehrhoff or Maatta with Letang. Or Maatta with Harrington....

 

[madinsomniac]

The refs really hate downie... he never shuts up yapping at them so they treat him even worse than they do most agitators. Mostly calls just to get him. Its absurd.

 

[DegenX]

Penguins GM Rutherford not considering drastic moves at this point

The Penguins might not need another top-six winger at all, Rutherford said.

“We'll see over time whether we need that winger or not,†Rutherford said. “There are a couple of options. One is that (Brandon) Sutter moves up because he's a top-six guy, and (Evgeni Malkin) goes to the wing. That would be one way to do it.

“Getting Beau (Bennett) going here and (him staying) healthy and consistent, that's another guy capable of being top-six. When we signed (Blake) Comeau, we didn't sign him as a top-six guy, but he's performed at that level. (Steve) Downie has shown that, when he's given the opportunity and healthy, that he can play there.

“We'll see how that plays out. If that doesn't play out right, we'll still look at adding another player.â€

 

[Beauner]

Just posturing, I'm sure. Although there may be some truth to it. Obviously he's not going to say he really wants another winger.

Although the Malkin to wing idea infuriates me.

 

[systemsgo]

Penguins GM Rutherford not considering drastic moves at this point

Ugh. Just the idea of Malkin on Sutter's wing again is enough to give me fits.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'd just like to know what Bortuzzo bounces off Scuderi?

*Needs gif*

 

[IcedCapp]

Perron - Crosby - Hornqvist
Malkin - Sutter - Bennett
Kunitz - Goc - Downie
Ebbett - Sill - Adams

?

If Sutter didn't suck, that would be a slick top-6.

 

[madinsomniac]

Perron - Crosby - Hornqvist
Malkin - Sutter - Bennett
Kunitz - Goc - Downie
Ebbett - Sill - Adams

?

If Sutter didn't suck, that would be a slick top-6.

If Sill was as Good as Crosby that would be a great lineup, and If Adams was Malkin 2.0 it would be fantastic... lol

 

[MtlPenFan]

Tired of guys like Scuderi and Adams being mouth pieces for this team. ****ing annoying.

 

[MeticulouslyDishevel]

Penguins GM Rutherford not considering drastic moves at this point

I'm really hoping he's just saying this so that other GMs don't think he's desperate.

He and the coaching staff seem to be the only people that haven't realized that Malkin on Sutter's wing is a disaster.

 

[The Old Master]

"Penguins teammates make case for Martin to stay with organization":

when is the last time you heard players saying that a team mate needs to be traded?
we just had sd say how good scuds was as a mentor to him. and everyone knows how truthfull that is.

 

[cygnus47]

I'm really hoping he's just saying this so that other GMs don't think he's desperate.

He and the coaching staff seem to be the only people that haven't realized that Malkin on Sutter's wing is a disaster.

We could do with another top 6, but once healthy we have a very good lineup.

Perron - Sid - Horny
Comeau - Geno - Bennett
Kunitz - Sutter - Get up, come on get downie with the sickness
Spaling - Goc - Rusty nail

Ehrhoff - The Tang
Maatta - Martin
Scuds/Bortz - Despres


We'd make some serious noise in the PO's with that Bottom 6. Especially if we get Duper back near the end.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Madden just teased on Savrans show that the Pens have a "big trade available" to them if the want it. That he will reveal at 3 on his show. Odds that...

1. Big is actually big?
2. Its real?
3. Source isn't Rossi?

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