Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread

[CheckingLineCenter]

Not sure if this was already shared but Poulin shows well in Mitch Brown’s tracking project.

Shooting numbers are encouraging for a guy who’s considered a bit more of a playmaker.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm not sure who you're targeting here. The takes seem pretty measured.

I'm his agent.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Yeah, he feels more like a winger version of Oscar Sundqvist if anything.

I hope your wrong because Sundqvist was so slow and his first few steps are really bad. Sundqvist would of never started in our lineup. Maybe he can do okay in a system built on toughness. I sure hope Bjorkvist is a better skater and fits Sullivan’s forechecking system.

 

[Khelandros]

Obviously hope I’m wrong but I simply don’t understand the hype around him. I haven’t seen remotely enough offensive ability to be more than a fringe third liner, if I’m being honest.

What was Hornqvist projected to be?

 

[Jacob]

What was Hornqvist projected to be?

Allsvensken/SEL tweener.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

What was Hornqvist projected to be?

Allsvensken/SEL tweener.

Hockey's Future - Patric Hornqvist

"is weak"

 

[Khelandros]

Hockey's Future - Patric Hornqvist

"is weak"

This was my point. People projecting players to be such and such, but in the end everyone can change. Tom Wilson is playing on Washingtons first line for f***s sake. John Scott is an All-Star MVP.

 

[Jacob]

Yeah I don't think if anyone 'projected' Guentzel to be a 30+ goal scorer that he'd have gone in the mid-3rd round.

So even the "best case scenario" projections (like the Penguins projection of Caulfield being only a bottom-6 guy) can be off.

 

[Peat]

Those guys are pretty rare though and we're talking projections at 18, not 22.

Still - lets see what Bjorkqvist is in the pro game before making too many statements.

 

[Lust for Life]

Article here on POJ. Unlocked for the next two hours.

Trade Analysis: What are the Pittsburgh Penguins Getting in...

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Article here on POJ. Unlocked for the next two hours.

Trade Analysis: What are the Pittsburgh Penguins Getting in...

Anyone want to summarize it, for those of us who missed it?

 

[Peat]

Anyone want to summarize it, for those of us who missed it?

Very good at using his stick and reach to defend without getting too physical, very calm (sometimes too calm), defends in a pro way already but his late blossoming attacking game isn't promising for his future success - his comparables by points have him as a 7% chance to succeed, but his style of game means that his chances are probably better.

 

[Jacob]

Very good at using his stick and reach to defend without getting too physical, very calm (sometimes too calm), defends in a pro way already but his late blossoming attacking game isn't promising for his future success - his comparables by points have him as a 7% chance to succeed, but his style of game means that his chances are probably better.

 

[UnrealMachine]

I mean, he's a defensive D who led his team's D in points/game (by a healthy margin) the last two seasons before being traded. He's not auditioning to be the next M.A. Pouliot.

 

[Jacob]

I mean, he's a defensive D who led his team's D in points/game (by a healthy margin) the last two seasons before being traded. He's not auditioning to be the next M.A. Pouliot.

That’s true, by most accounts [including my own] he’s a defense-first PMD, that has skills but uses them for defending, not producing.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Yea the article basically said if you look strictly at points he’s a 7% chance. Everything else about him is pro level. Projects to be a 2nd or 3rd pair D

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Yea the article basically said if you look strictly at points he’s a 7% chance. Everything else about him is pro level. Projects to be a 2nd or 3rd pair D

And a cheaper one because he won't put up too many points.

 

[JTG]

Is Addison able to play in the AHL this season? I can never remember the rules.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Is Addison able to play in the AHL this season? I can never remember the rules.

He’s not, he’s in juniors for the year.

Not sure if that means he can’t until his team is eliminated then can go to WBS.

 

[Turin]

If POJ even maxes out as Pettersson this last year I’m pretty stoked about that.

 

[JTG]

Hockey's Future - Patric Hornqvist

"is weak"

It's so hard to project how a 17/18 year old will grow and what kind of commitment they will have to getting stronger. Not everyone is Hornqvist or Bjorkqvist who really commits to getting bigger and strong.

Yeah I don't think if anyone 'projected' Guentzel to be a 30+ goal scorer that he'd have gone in the mid-3rd round.

So even the "best case scenario" projections (like the Penguins projection of Caulfield being only a bottom-6 guy) can be off.

The thing with Guentzel was always that he has the brain. As long as I have been reading about prospects, if a guy is praised for his hockey sense, he usually turns into something.

The most shocking thing about Guentzel to me isn't even the fact he scores. He has always been a scorer. It's the fact he's 180 pounds and doesn't get bullied around. He goes to dirty areas and is able to stand in there. It's really unbelievable to me.

That’s true, by most accounts [including my own] he’s a defense-first PMD, that has skills but uses them for defending, not producing.

So Dumoulin or Pettersson?

 

[JTG]

Are there any publications now that do full sail in depth prospect rankings/team talent pool rankings? I loosely follow prospects for other teams, but I am curious as to where systems rank and who are the next wave of guys looking to make an impact.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Are there any publications now that do full sail in depth prospect rankings/team talent pool rankings? I loosely follow prospects for other teams, but I am curious as to where systems rank and who are the next wave of guys looking to make an impact.

Pronman: 2018-19 NHL farm system rankings

A year old but it'll be updated soon probably.

 

[The Old Master]

And a cheaper one because he won't put up too many points.

"if" and I repeat "if"he can add strength he will improve in all areas... including putting up points. imo

 

[dogthateats]

Is this good?