hatcher
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I agree but playing the same way every night to the best of the teams ability if what pages you over the top.The players are far more important than the system.
A perfect system with the wrong players will do nothing.
I agree but playing the same way every night to the best of the teams ability if what pages you over the top.The players are far more important than the system.
A perfect system with the wrong players will do nothing.
All coaches have strengths & weaknesses.
How many points do you think the Flyers should have had last season? Keep in mind Mrazek gave them 17 games with an .891 save percentage.
I don’t think 98 points was underachieving.
For how much Hakstol gets painted as a moron & among the worst coaches in the league, his results with a mediocre team in a league with great parity suggest he does some things right.
I don’t think he’s a great coach. But I don’t think he’s anywhere near as bad as most of the “regular posters” portray. They’d have you believe he does nothing right & everything wrong. I can’t get on board with that extreme negative take on him.
No team has ever, or will ever, do that. It's simply not possible to be consistent every night.I agree but playing the same way every night to the best of the teams ability if what pages you over the top.
As has been explained to you multiple times, the bench management is what causes the change.
By benching everyone who has the ability to move the puck, the remaining trash players on the ice end up in a shell and then just dump the puck out and hope they can change before the opponent gets the puck back. It's indisputable that the team abandons any chance at scoring at the end of the game and just goes into the shell. That's all guys like Hagg, Mac, Filppula, Lehtera, Manning, etc could do.
I doubt Hakstol literally says the words "don't try to score a goal" but that's EXACTLY what his actions say.
You sure like repeatedly explaining things to people.
Except when you accuse someone of misrepresenting your opinion, & then refuse to explain what you were claiming was misrepresented. (LOL, don’t worry, everyone knows why you’re dodging that one.)
Btw, Where do you think the Flyers’ roster ranks talent-wise in the league, from 1-31?
You can’t play Couturier & Provorov for 60 minutes, sadly.
Hakstol doesn’t have a lot at his disposal.
I get you think he should play TK & Ghost in the last 5 minutes protecting a lead. I don’t necessarily disagree. But I can see why he doesn’t trust them that late when one big mistake can cost you a lead. And my point, as you are well aware, is that those who contend the “Hakshell” is a system change are wrong. You’ve adjusted and say it refers to personnel usage. Fine. But many are still laboring under the delusion that Hakstol changes his team’s system to a passive shell & it’s just flat-out incorrect.
How many Leads did we give up late doing it his way????You sure like repeatedly explaining things to people.
Except when you accuse someone of misrepresenting your opinion, & then refuse to explain what you were claiming was misrepresented. (LOL, don’t worry, everyone knows why you’re dodging that one.)
Btw, Where do you think the Flyers’ roster ranks talent-wise in the league, from 1-31?
You can’t play Couturier & Provorov for 60 minutes, sadly.
Hakstol doesn’t have a lot at his disposal.
I get you think he should play TK & Ghost in the last 5 minutes protecting a lead. I don’t necessarily disagree. But I can see why he doesn’t trust them that late when one big mistake can cost you a lead. And my point, as you are well aware, is that those who contend the “Hakshell” is a system change are wrong. You’ve adjusted and say it refers to personnel usage. Fine. But many are still laboring under the delusion that Hakstol changes his team’s system to a passive shell & it’s just flat-out incorrect.
Kelowna is full of animals these days LOl. never look for trouble but if it comes your way you gotta be ready.
It’s a shame we can’t look at stats with the Flyers leading/tied/trailing to see how they perform relative to the league. Nuts.
Just replace Kelowna with whatever town, and I’m 97% sure this is a quote from some 80s movie. Every 80s movie. There’s no way Kurt Russell or Patrick Swayze didn’t say this.
All coaches have strengths & weaknesses.
How many points do you think the Flyers should have had last season? Keep in mind Mrazek gave them 17 games with an .891 save percentage.
I don’t think 98 points was underachieving.
For how much Hakstol gets painted as a moron & among the worst coaches in the league, his results with a mediocre team in a league with great parity suggest he does some things right.
I don’t think he’s a great coach. But I don’t think he’s anywhere near as bad as most of the “regular posters” portray. They’d have you believe he does nothing right & everything wrong. I can’t get on board with that extreme negative take on him.
Holy shit @ the weise/horse head. This is pure gold!!
LMAO.Where do the Flyers rank in talent? Don't know, don't care. Completely irrelevant.
Where do the Flyers rank in talent? Don't know, don't care. Completely irrelevant.
All that matters is they have enough talent to do better than they have been,
Same reason as you make these kinds of posts all the time.
You see something you disagree with, so you make a post about it. That’s the whole point of a forum.
I'm not comparing their performance to another team, I'm comparing them to their own potential. So no, their league-wide rank isn't relevant here.LMAO.
Yeah, if you’re going to complain that the team is underperforming because of the coach, it’s pretty damn relevant to ask where you think the roster ranks in the NHL. More dodging.
maybe but in real life Ill never be the one wishing I was trained man. Kelowna is beautiful but has a high crime rate and allot of f*** heads in it lol.It’s a shame we can’t look at stats with the Flyers leading/tied/trailing to see how they perform relative to the league. Nuts.
Just replace Kelowna with whatever town, and I’m 97% sure this is a quote from some 80s movie. Every 80s movie. There’s no way Kurt Russell or Patrick Swayze didn’t say this.
Are those the same oddsmakers that had the Oilers #2 and Vegas as dead last?The oddsmakers had the Flyers tied for 21st out of 31 teams in preseason Stanley Cup odds.
Seems a pretty good estimate of where their roster ranked in the league to me.
They finished tied for 12th in the league.
The way people rant & rave about how Hakstol is holding them back you would never guess it possible.
You need to become Sheriff!maybe but in real life Ill never be the one wishing I was trained man. Kelowna is beautiful but has a high crime rate and allot of **** heads in it lol.
f*** that. LolYou need to become Sheriff!
It's a testament to my level of boredom that sometimes it's worth whatever amount of effort it takes.My posts like this require no thought or effort and are not a wall of text though.
I'm not comparing their performance to another team, I'm comparing them to their own potential. So no, their league-wide rank isn't relevant here.
Try to follow along here...
Hypothetically, if they had the most skilled roster in the entire league (imagine 6 McDavid clones), but the coach healthy scratched those top 6 most skilled players, you wouldn't see the most skilled team on the ice and the results wouldn't be what you would expect from the the most skilled team. That would be the fault of the coach and obviously worthy of criticism.
Now, imagine you instead had the least skilled roster in the league and the coach still scratches the top 6 most skilled players on the team. The overall expectations for the team would have been far lower, but the coach would still deserve blame for making winning even harder than it had to be. Nobody is saying the least skilled team would have won the cup if those top 6 players were in the lineup (they'd still have been the worst team), but that doesn't excuse the coach for making the team even worse than it already was.
Fact is, no matter what the Flyers rank in skill would be, top of the league or bottom of the league, it isn't going to be reflected in their results if they don't properly use whatever amount of skill is available to them. And that's the problem, Hakstol didn't properly use the talent he had.
That deserves criticism and anyone who isn't blindly pro-Hak can admit that. So let's see if you're as unbiased as you keep pretending you are or if you'll be a liar.
Are those the same oddsmakers that had the Oilers #2 and Vegas as dead last?
We finished right around where I expected, but sometimes you need to look at how we got there. Besides guys who have been stars in lower leagues, we don't get great years from anyone else.
So, to be clear, this means you can't admit it? I notice you dodged the question.Dear God, the mental gymnastics you’re going through.
If you are contending the Flyers underachieved because of Hakstol, it’s 100% relevant to ask where the overall talent he had at his disposal ranks in the league.
You’re trying to obfuscate a simple question, as is your wont when you know the answer doesn’t jive with your extreme position.
Preseason Cup odds don’t factor in lineup decisions. Just the overall rosters. The Flyers were ranked in the bottom 10 teams in the league. Is it a perfect evaluation method? Of course not. But it’s the most objective rough estimate you’re going to get.
They finished 12th in the NHL. You think, regardless of lineup decisions, the players on the Flyers’ NHL roster were better than 12th in the league? With the goaltending situation, to boot? I sure don’t.