Phoenix LIV:E and Let Die

[aqib]

how about:

Phoenix LV: It or leave it

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

Phoenix LV: Same ********, different 2 weeks

 

[Lux Aurumque*]

Disappointing. The vote should have been ruled invalid, and Glendale should have been forced to put arena management up for competitive bid.

The judge must be a Coyotes fan, because it, frankly, makes absolutely no sense that Glendale is allowed to simply hand the arena management contract over to Jamison without seeking cheaper options.

 

[wpgsilver]

Disappointing. The vote should have been ruled invalid, and Glendale should have been forced to put arena management up for competitive bid.

The judge must be a Coyotes fan, because it, frankly, makes absolutely no sense that Glendale is allowed to simply hand the arena management contract over to Jamison without seeking cheaper options.

Im sure that's your informed legal opinion?

 

[Confucius]

Disappointing. The vote should have been ruled invalid, and Glendale should have been forced to put arena management up for competitive bid.

The judge must be a Coyotes fan, because it, frankly, makes absolutely no sense that Glendale is allowed to simply hand the arena management contract over to Jamison without seeking cheaper options.

So is that what happened? Did the judge rule it's all ok?

 

[Lux Aurumque*]

^ He invalidated the emergency clause portion of the ordinance, but that was it. Ultimately, nothing was accomplished.

Im sure that's your informed legal opinion?

It's called common sense.

 

[Confucius]

^ He invalidated the emergency clause portion of the ordinance, but that was it. Ultimately, nothing was accomplished.

I guess that means they have to re-vote?

 

[roccerfeller]

Phoenix LV: It's not what you Fink

LOL


This one is good.

 

[Mungman]

^ He invalidated the emergency clause portion of the ordinance, but that was it. Ultimately, nothing was accomplished.



It's called common sense.

I think that the 30 day period for a petition to hold a referendum will start after the judge signs the order invalidating the E.C.. That would put the end of the period in mid to late July, my understanding is all referendums need validation by Jul 5. I don't think the vote on it (assuming the petition goes through) would be until Nov 2013.

Put that in your two weeks and smoke it.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

So, in other words, this is getting dragged out even more.

yaaaaaaay.....

 

[Mungman]

I guess that means they have to re-vote?

Nope, just that art. 7 is invalid, the rest of the ord. will stand.

 

[roccerfeller]

I'd like to hear general thoughts from HFboards resident lawyers; Yukon Joe, CF, (goyotes & Mork too if you guys are still lurking about...any other lurkers)... would be good for some discussion.

 

[NHLfan4life]

Disappointing. The vote should have been ruled invalid, and Glendale should have been forced to put arena management up for competitive bid.

The judge must be a Coyotes fan, because it, frankly, makes absolutely no sense that Glendale is allowed to simply hand the arena management contract over to Jamison without seeking cheaper options.

Why is that? Because you are so concerned about how Glendale conducts their business and spends their money?

 

[Confucius]

I wonder if the NHL is willing to gamble on a November Referendum. It could come back no subsidy. All the losses could be the NHL's problem.

If I was PKP I wouldn't agree to running the team for a year and then moving. I couldn't be sure some legal roadblock would be thrown my way at the last minute.

 

[viper0220]

So, in other words, this is getting dragged out even more.

yaaaaaaay.....

And here I was thinking this was going to end today LOL, this will never end.

 

[sipowicz]

^ He invalidated the emergency clause portion of the ordinance, but that was it. Ultimately, nothing was accomplished.



It's called common sense.

No kidding.

 

[Confucius]

Nope, just that art. 7 is invalid, the rest of the ord. will stand.

I thought since it wasn't an emergency the city had to give more notice to the public before they could vote. I'm probably incorrect but it's what I thought.

 

[viper0220]

I wonder if the NHL is willing to gamble on a November Referendum. It could come back no subsidy. All the losses could be the NHL's problem.

If I was PKP I wouldn't agree to running the team for a year and then moving. I couldn't be sure some legal roadblock would be thrown my way at the last minute.

The same thing happened when winnipeg jets were relocated, I really hope PKP does this because he gets a team. Don't think there would be roadblocks.

 

[madhi19]

And here I was thinking this was going to end today LOL, this will never end.

The day is still young. The action move to Vegas now but sadly it not a public meeting.

 

[goyotes]

I'd like to hear general thoughts from HFboards resident lawyers; Yukon Joe, CF, (goyotes & Mork too if you guys are still lurking about...any other lurkers)... would be good for some discussion.

Putting aside the issue of whether Jamison is able to raise the funds to close a deal with the NHL (big IF, IMO), I don't think today's hearing had much impact on anything. The judge denied the GWI's request for relief. The CoG stipulated well before the hearing that the ordinance was not passed by emergency clause, so that issue cannot be a surprise to the NHL or Jamison. Since the CoG stipulated to that point, the GWI didn't really "win" anything. Their motion simply mischaracterized the CoG's action.

At this point, the citizens can seek to have the matter referred for a vote in Fall. I think it is likely they will be able to get in on the ballot. What will that mean in terms of Jamison and the NHL closing? I don't think it will have any effect assuming Jamison can come up with the money. However, Jamison's deal with the NHL is probably conditioned upon him having an arena to play in, and if the CoG deal falls through, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamison's deal doesn't include some kind of a relocation clause so he can move the team.

 

[Whileee]

Putting aside the issue of whether Jamison is able to raise the funds to close a deal with the NHL (big IF, IMO), I don't think today's hearing had much impact on anything. The judge denied the GWI's request for relief. The CoG stipulated well before the hearing that the ordinance was not passed by emergency clause, so that issue cannot be a surprise to the NHL or Jamison. Since the CoG stipulated to that point, the GWI didn't really "win" anything. Their motion simply mischaracterized the CoG's action.

At this point, the citizens can seek to have the matter referred for a vote in Fall. I think it is likely they will be able to get in on the ballot. What will that mean in terms of Jamison and the NHL closing? I don't think it will have any effect assuming Jamison can come up with the money. However, Jamison's deal with the NHL is probably conditioned upon him having an arena to play in, and if the CoG deal falls through, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamison's deal doesn't include some kind of a relocation clause so he can move the team.

To where might he move it?

 

[sipowicz]

Putting aside the issue of whether Jamison is able to raise the funds to close a deal with the NHL (big IF, IMO), I don't think today's hearing had much impact on anything. The judge denied the GWI's request for relief. The CoG stipulated well before the hearing that the ordinance was not passed by emergency clause, so that issue cannot be a surprise to the NHL or Jamison. Since the CoG stipulated to that point, the GWI didn't really "win" anything. Their motion simply mischaracterized the CoG's action.

At this point, the citizens can seek to have the matter referred for a vote in Fall. I think it is likely they will be able to get in on the ballot. What will that mean in terms of Jamison and the NHL closing? I don't think it will have any effect assuming Jamison can come up with the money. However, Jamison's deal with the NHL is probably conditioned upon him having an arena to play in, and if the CoG deal falls through, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamison's deal doesn't include some kind of a relocation clause so he can move the team.

So why would the NHL take $170 million from Jamison when they could get that from PKP and another $60 million in relocation fees.


No way would anyone in Quebec allow Jamison to own and have his team play in QC.

 

[roccerfeller]

Putting aside the issue of whether Jamison is able to raise the funds to close a deal with the NHL (big IF, IMO), I don't think today's hearing had much impact on anything. The judge denied the GWI's request for relief. The CoG stipulated well before the hearing that the ordinance was not passed by emergency clause, so that issue cannot be a surprise to the NHL or Jamison. Since the CoG stipulated to that point, the GWI didn't really "win" anything. Their motion simply mischaracterized the CoG's action.

At this point, the citizens can seek to have the matter referred for a vote in Fall. I think it is likely they will be able to get in on the ballot. What will that mean in terms of Jamison and the NHL closing? I don't think it will have any effect assuming Jamison can come up with the money. However, Jamison's deal with the NHL is probably conditioned upon him having an arena to play in, and if the CoG deal falls through, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamison's deal doesn't include some kind of a relocation clause so he can move the team.

Interesting thoughts, thanks goyotes.

good to see you still lurking about and posting! I haven't seen you post in a while man, good to see you're still around.

 

[Hamilton Tigers]

To where might he move it?

 

[NHLfan4life]

To where might he move it?

Nobody has a clue. Nobody is ready to take on an NHL team. The NHL wants to stay in Glendale, I seriously doubt the Yotes are moving now. GWI seems to be barking up all the wrong trees.