Lisa Halverstadt @LisaHalverstadt
Birnbaum: At least one party in Goldwater suit went to #Glendale city clerk's office to get referendum papers already. #Coyotes
Sounds like it could happen.
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Lisa Halverstadt @LisaHalverstadt
Birnbaum: At least one party in Goldwater suit went to #Glendale city clerk's office to get referendum papers already. #Coyotes
Sounds like it could happen.
Yukon Joe
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As a trial lawyer sometimes the judge really digs into you because they're just testing what you have to say because they're about to do exactly what you are asking them to do. The worst response from a judge is actually no response at all.
The crux of Glendale's argument seems to be that Mr. Jamison is the only person on the planet who's a professional arena manager, and has specific skills, therefore you can pay him $325 million without looking at competitive bids. You need a "professional" to manage the arena, with specific skills, therefore don't need to put the AMF up for competitive bidding.
Judge: "What about a window washer. Doesn't he have specific skills? Couldn't you put the word professional in front of any job title?"
This is hilarious.
Judge: "What about a window washer. Doesn't he have specific skills? Couldn't you put the word professional in front of any job title?"
This is hilarious.
GuelphStormer
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Really? That's what you took from Glendale's argument? I think it's pretty obvious what they are saying is Jamison is the only professional arena manager that also plans to provide an anchor tenant for 40+ dates a year, in the form of the Phoenix Coyotes NHL franchise.
They are correct. The competitive bid issue really isn't an issue. It's just hot air.
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Vinc360
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I tend to agree with this, but from a purely objective perspective it would be difficult to for a judge to determine whether the Coyotes are needed or not for the arena. There are arenas that are managed by a professional firm (other than Jamison), without a major sports team as an anchor tenant, that have done just fine. They are not examining the financial arguments related to the financial pros and cons of the AMF, so it might be difficult for a judge to accept that including the Coyotes is an indispensable requirement for arena management.
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It's not really his job though, is it? GWI's argument was that THIS AMF was not competitively bid, right? Can't be. As COG said, it's beyond that scope.
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Here's a thought...
The NHL is prepared to allow this process to take as long as it needs during the summer. They are prepared to attempt to make the Jamison deal work until mid August. If it all falls through, and looks as though there is no hope to avoid owning the Coyotes for another season, they sell them to PKP for 170mil. The catch? He's got to own and operate the Phoenix Coyotes for the 2012-2013 season. He's got to incur all of the losses in Glendale for that one lame duck season in jobing.com arena. Then, he can relocate them to QC as soon as their season is through.
HAHA
The NHL is prepared to allow this process to take as long as it needs during the summer. They are prepared to attempt to make the Jamison deal work until mid August. If it all falls through, and looks as though there is no hope to avoid owning the Coyotes for another season, they sell them to PKP for 170mil. The catch? He's got to own and operate the Phoenix Coyotes for the 2012-2013 season. He's got to incur all of the losses in Glendale for that one lame duck season in jobing.com arena. Then, he can relocate them to QC as soon as their season is through.
HAHA
Here's a thought...
The NHL is prepared to allow this process to take as long as it needs during the summer. They are prepared to attempt to make the Jamison deal work until mid August. If it all falls through, and looks as though there is no hope to avoid owning the Coyotes for another season, they sell them to PKP for 170mil. The catch? He's got to own and operate the Phoenix Coyotes for the 2012-2013 season. He's got to incur all of the losses in Glendale for that one lame duck season in jobing.com arena. Then, he can relocate them to QC as soon as their season is through.
HAHA
Well, that's basically how it went down in the move from WPG to PHX, so there'd be a bit of symmetry there.
Can the NHL get dragged into this some how, I really wish that happens and the NHL has to go to court as well.
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Here's a thought...
The NHL is prepared to allow this process to take as long as it needs during the summer. They are prepared to attempt to make the Jamison deal work until mid August. If it all falls through, and looks as though there is no hope to avoid owning the Coyotes for another season, they sell them to PKP for 170mil. The catch? He's got to own and operate the Phoenix Coyotes for the 2012-2013 season. He's got to incur all of the losses in Glendale for that one lame duck season in jobing.com arena. Then, he can relocate them to QC as soon as their season is through.
HAHA
That is a possibility.
mouser
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The judge doesn't have to accept that the team is indispensable to rule in CoG's favor. For GWI to win he would have to go much further than just determining the team isn't indispensable, but that CoG is barred from even including the team/arena operations in a sole source deal.
The more difficult it is for the judge to assess whether the team is needed or not the more deference he'll have to give to the CoG's determination that it is needed.
madhi19
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That was an interesting afternoon but let face it the BoG meeting is where I love to get a twitter feed from.
If this goes to a referendum do you think the league will stay put and roll the dice hoping for a win or get out of there ASAP to avoid a lost?
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