FLYguy3911
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- Oct 19, 2006
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watching 2007 mets highlights.Cubs lost 9 in a row. That's a collapse.
Hamels barely grazes the outer edge of Yadi's impressive body armor and all the sudden it's time for Neck Tattoo to defend his honor.
The stats on a pitchers' year that he can control are strikeouts, walks and home runs. And home runs really are greatly affected by ballpark. But they're not influenced by the defense, like every other stat (hits, runs, etc).
In these categories Halladay gets the edge over Kershaw. He struck out 220 in 233.2 innings and walked only 35, which is a tremendous ratio. He only gave up 10 homers.
Kershaw struck out more,248, but walked 54 and gave up 15 homers. Halladay gets the edge here and when you factor in park it's quite a big difference.
Check out the splits:
Kershaw home 1.69 ERA in 117 innings
Kershaw away 2.87 ERA in 116 innings
Halladay actually had better ERA on the road -- 2.23 (2.48 at home).
This isn't surprising, Dodger Stadium has been doing this for year, going all the way back to Koufax and Drysdale. For his career, Kershaw has a 2.15 ERA at home, 2.78 ERA on the road. (His road ERA is still tremendous obviously)
We're talking about parks alone being worth the difference of .5 to .7 runs per game, over 230+ innings. Factor in the difference in team defense, and this can easily be 20 runs a year. 1 WAR ~= 10 runs, so yeah, it makes sense that Halladay is two wins better.
But baseball reference just take into account FIP like fangraphs WAR does. They also take into account the defense behind you unlike fangraphs. It looked liked in 2011 1 win was about 8.5 runs too.The stats on a pitchers' year that he can control are strikeouts, walks and home runs. And home runs really are greatly affected by ballpark. But they're not influenced by the defense, like every other stat (hits, runs, etc).
In these categories Halladay gets the edge over Kershaw. He struck out 220 in 233.2 innings and walked only 35, which is a tremendous ratio. He only gave up 10 homers.
Kershaw struck out more,248, but walked 54 and gave up 15 homers. Halladay gets the edge here and when you factor in park it's quite a big difference.
Check out the splits:
Kershaw home 1.69 ERA in 117 innings
Kershaw away 2.87 ERA in 116 innings
Halladay actually had better ERA on the road -- 2.23 (2.48 at home).
This isn't surprising, Dodger Stadium has been doing this for year, going all the way back to Koufax and Drysdale. For his career, Kershaw has a 2.15 ERA at home, 2.78 ERA on the road. (His road ERA is still tremendous obviously)
We're talking about parks alone being worth the difference of .5 to .7 runs per game, over 230+ innings. Factor in the difference in team defense, and this can easily be 20 runs a year. 1 WAR ~= 10 runs, so yeah, it makes sense that Halladay is two wins better.
Hamels barely grazes the outer edge of Yadi's impressive body armor and all the sudden it's time for Neck Tattoo to defend his honor.
I was watching that last night. One of the stupidest things I have seen in a long time. There were three waves. First, Yadi lost his **** for no reason. Then the benches cleared and streamed out. Then on like a delay, when the thing had already been quashed, all the turds from the bullpens streamed out. It was so stupid.
I long for the good old days.Few things more sad than watching baseball players attempt to fight.
I was watching that last night. One of the stupidest things I have seen in a long time. There were three waves. First, Yadi lost his **** for no reason. Then the benches cleared and streamed out. Then on like a delay, when the thing had already been quashed, all the turds from the bullpens streamed out. It was so stupid.
if john middleton doesnt fire gabe kapler:3 HRs by the bullpen already. What a ****ing joke of a squad...
That was terrible. I couldn't stand Ryan, and I liked Ventura, and he got his ass fed to him.