Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc. (Next chapter 2015-16)

[Tripod]

I would be surprised to see Hagg moved. He still has two and a half years of waiver-exemption left, so it makes more sense to leave him on the Phantoms and hope he develops than to trade him when his value has dropped.

These are the D prospects who can play in the AHL next season assuming Friedman goes back to college. Without Hagg it's pretty thin.

Morin
Sanheim
Hagg
Marti (having an even worse season than Hagg)
Pettersson (currently in the ECHL)
Willcox (if they sign him to a contract)

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

Yeah...no need to move Hagg unless he is part of a bigger package....like the Laughton and Hagg for Drouin dream.

I love that we are getting into a position of being able to package a few assets for ones with more upside.

 

[Prongo]

Defensemen are also the best trade currency.

I would much rather just hold onto them until we see a few prove themselves at the big level. After that I would be all for making moves.

Hexy will follow the LA Kings way of putting together a competitive team I believe. When he feels the team has it's best shot to compete, he will make a move in the summer to try and complete the team. Not a deadline deal that over cost our assets. Make smart moves and draft well and your team will be looking at a bright future.

 

[TonyAndrock]

The Lehigh Valley Phantoms (23-23-2-1) host the Portland Pirates (26-18-1-0) tonight at 7:05 p.m. ET.

I'll be live from the PPL Center with all the latest in-game updates on Twitter -> @TonyAndrock. Also stay tuned online after the game for a full recap of the action complete with reaction from the locker room.

In the meantime, here's a full preview of tonight's Phantoms/Pirates game to read up on all the latest news, notes & stats.

http://highlandparkhockey.blogspot.com/2016/02/game-50-preview-portland-at-lehigh.html

 

[FLYguy3911]

Button likes Myers' offense more than Morin's. Not an outrageous opinion, he's definitely more offensively inclined than Morin. In a vacuum I wouldn't blame someone for preferring Myers because he has the potential to be a better all-around defenseman, but for the the Flyers specifically, I think Morin is the more valuable player. Gostisbehere, Sanheim, and Provorov are likely going to carry the mail offensively in the future. Morin could be our Staal or Methot- underrated glue guy. Not to say Myers can't be that, but he's likely not going to be in a position to put up points.

 

[Psuhockey]

I would much rather just hold onto them until we see a few prove themselves at the big level. After that I would be all for making moves.

Hexy will follow the LA Kings way of putting together a competitive team I believe. When he feels the team has it's best shot to compete, he will make a move in the summer to try and complete the team. Not a deadline deal that over cost our assets. Make smart moves and draft well and your team will be looking at a bright future.

I wouldn't trade any of them now but maybe in a couple of seasons. If Hextall wasn't willing to move Morin for Johansen as was rumored by John Boruk, then he isn't willing to move any of the top prospects either right now.

 

[Psuhockey]

Button likes Myers' offense more than Morin's. Not an outrageous opinion, he's definitely more offensively inclined than Morin. In a vacuum I wouldn't blame someone for preferring Myers because he has the potential to be a better all-around defenseman, but for the the Flyers specifically, I think Morin is the more valuable player. Gostisbehere, Sanheim, and Provorov are likely going to carry the mail offensively in the future. Morin could be our Staal or Methot- underrated glue guy. Not to say Myers can't be that, but he's likely not going to be in a position to put up points.

So Provorov Myers
Morin Sanheim
Ghost-who cares

Too soon for that level of excitement?

 

[Tripod]

I am glad that question was asked to Button. And makes sense.

But I still think Morin is going to a beast for us.

Man it feels nice hording all these good defensive prospects!!

Now this year at the draft, go add 2 top 6 forwards and I will 1 happy camper.

And just think, in 2 years, all these guys are going to be chomping to be on our team....and then Hextall will begin the next wave of dmen.

I hope Friedman doesn't start thinking of going elsewhere due to the strength of our prospects on D. I would hate for him to stay in college a few more years and then leave for nothing.

 

[Prongo]

I wouldn't trade any of them now but maybe in a couple of seasons. If Hextall wasn't willing to move Morin for Johansen as was rumored by John Boruk, then he isn't willing to move any of the top prospects either right now.

I love that they are very high on Morin. He has potential to be the best of the group. Just really needs to come together. Keep these kids because if he doesn't hit his top potential you still get a guy who is under your control for 6/7 years. Easiest way to keep costs down is with homegrown talent until they hit their UFA years.

 

[Curufinwe]

It would have to have been Morin+. Jones has significantly more value than Morin right now, and he was traded for Johansen straight up.

And I really doubt Boruk has an inside source into Hextall's trading plans. Ron runs a much tighter ship than that.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

I am glad that question was asked to Button. And makes sense.

But I still think Morin is going to a beast for us.

Man it feels nice hording all these good defensive prospects!!

Now this year at the draft, go add 2 top 6 forwards and I will 1 happy camper.

And just think, in 2 years, all these guys are going to be chomping to be on our team....and then Hextall will begin the next wave of dmen.

I hope Friedman doesn't start thinking of going elsewhere due to the strength of our prospects on D. I would hate for him to stay in college a few more years and then leave for nothing.

I agree. Morin is my favorite of the D prospects.

 

[deadhead]

Myers is going to be a pretty big guy when he grows up.
He's now listed at 6'5 209 at age 19 (turned Jan 25).
So it's not unreasonable that he can fill out to 220 lbs or so when he grows up. With speed, playmaking skills and a long reach.

It really doesn't matter whether Myers is better than Morin.
What matters is our scouts are doing a ridiculously good job at finding talent on the fringes, not just the top 100 players.

Madsen - 6th rd 2013
Lindblom - 5th rd 2014
Myers - undrafted 2015
And there are guys like Kase, Marody, etc.

What makes this exciting is a smart GM can pick up late round picks like party favors, because most teams don't value them. If you can consistently find one or two guys per draft who are top quality prospects with those picks, you can gain a sustainable competitive edge.
Fazleev - 6th rd 2014

 

[Hockeypete49]

I agree. Morin is my favorite of the D prospects.

I am a huge Morin fan and called for them to draft him, however I have him at #2 right behind Provorov. He will be a horse for us when he finally makes the club. One day our back line is going to be amazing.

 

[GKJ]

Hagg is a healthy scratch again. I think it's time to start wondering what his future is.


On another note, just saw Mark Edwards someone else talking up Myers. Those freebies are so crucial.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

On another note, just saw Mark Edwards someone else talking up Myers. Those freebies are so crucial.

He thinks Myers would have been a top 30 pick in this year's draft if he didn't sign this summer.

 

[Dabest]

He thinks Myers would have been a top 30 pick in this year's draft if he didn't sign this summer.

Free 1st rounder

 

[Hiesenberg]

So Myers went undrafted? If we didn't sign him, he could've went back in the draft? Granted some value being loss due to age, but the Flyers scooped on him. Now we are sitting even better.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I was hoping to read some funny takes about Philippe Myers on twitter, but no one could spell his name right.

So Myers went undrafted? If we didn't sign him, he could've went back in the draft? Granted some value being loss due to age, but the Flyers scooped on him. Now we are sitting even better.

Yup. I'd like to say great scouting but they passed on him 9 times!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

So Myers went undrafted? If we didn't sign him, he could've went back in the draft? Granted some value being loss due to age, but the Flyers scooped on him. Now we are sitting even better.

You're still subjected to the draft for your 18/19 & 19/20 year old seasons if not signed before the year starts. NHL teams have a small window after the draft & up until camp to sign an undrafted CHL player. European trained players have no signing window after the draft. They head right back into the draft if not drafted originally.

 

[Hiesenberg]

I was hoping to read some funny takes about Philippe Myers on twitter, but no one could spell his name right.


Yup. I liked like to say great scouting but they passed on him 9 times!

Hey, they ended up with him. Maybe they knew he was going to go undrafted (or risked it) and were able to load up on players and STILL add him.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Hey, they ended up with him. Maybe they knew he was going to go undrafted (or risked it) and were able to load up on players and STILL add him.

Hey I'm glad they got him but he could have just as easily signed with Calgary after attending their development camp. You need to be lucky in the scouting business too.

 

[Rebels57]

Isnt the AHL supposed to be for development?

Scratching Hagg over journeymen Dman makes no sense to me.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Most cases I'd agree but you have to attempt to get to him somehow.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Hey I'm glad they got him but he could have just as easily signed with Calgary after attending their development camp. You need to be lucky in the scouting business too.

Sure do.

 

[Curufinwe]

Hagg is a healthy scratch again. I think it's time to start wondering what his future is.


On another note, just saw Mark Edwards someone else talking up Myers. Those freebies are so crucial.

I think his future is playing in the AHL for most if not all of his ELC. Like Alt has done.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

Isnt the AHL supposed to be for development?

Scratching Hagg over journeymen Dman makes no sense to me.

Gordon doesn't really seem to coach for development.