I'm pretty sure getting traded was a wake up call for both of them. Especially Carter who got traded twice.
I think the only "shaping up" was getting the hell away from the Philly Slob Corps of Journalistic Failures. I remember they even kept taking jabs at them after they were gone. Like...let it go you obsessed weirdos, isn't there enough to cover with the team you're paid to write about?
For most of Richards career here he was a 60 to 80 point Selke-caliber center and for most of Carter's career he was a 35 to 40 goal two-way center. Their careers outside of Philly thus far are in-line with that for the most part.
The only difference is that there's no more media fiasco surrounding them. Even their playoff performances are roughly the same.
Carter's playoff PPG is a lot higher in LA than it was here. 0.68 vs 0.45.
Carter's playoff PPG is a lot higher in LA than it was here. 0.68 vs 0.45.
I think it's safe to say that LA is happy with the trade (yes, I know Carter came from Columbus technically), Philly isn't happy with Bryz, and there's been not one peep of lockerroom troubles stemming from them since they left.
I'm one of the few Carter fans left in Flyerland. Still hurts to see him play so well for the Kings.
It wasn't lockerroom trouble rumours that plagued Carter and Richards; it was off ice shenanigans, particularly with Carter. Dean Lombardi has been very open with speaking about Carter's maturity since he arrived in LA.
When you throw millions of dollars at young men, there needs to be an understanding that they're going to have fun. I don't know if the Flyers didn't help Carter settle or if he just needed to mature on his own, but he's a different guy in LA. I believe there was a recent article quoting Lombardi and Richards about Carter's maturity with the Kings.
I'm one of the few Carter fans left in Flyerland. Still hurts to see him play so well for the Kings.
It wasn't lockerroom trouble rumours that plagued Carter and Richards; it was off ice shenanigans, particularly with Carter. Dean Lombardi has been very open with speaking about Carter's maturity since he arrived in LA.
When you throw millions of dollars at young men, there needs to be an understanding that they're going to have fun. I don't know if the Flyers didn't help Carter settle or if he just needed to mature on his own, but he's a different guy in LA. I believe there was a recent article quoting Lombardi and Richards about Carter's maturity with the Kings.
Carter has been healthy in the playoffs during his prime years in LA.
if you play hurt and suck you should be sitting because you are hurting the team.
if he sits and the team loses Carter gets blamed for not playing hurt. He never was going to win here with the fans or the media.
Dont get me wrong I liked the Carter trade but Carter had a hard time winning anyone over. even when hes scoring 30-40 goals.
For most of Richards career here he was a 60 to 80 point Selke-caliber center and for most of Carter's career he was a 35 to 40 goal two-way center. Their careers outside of Philly thus far are in-line with that for the most part.
The only difference is that there's no more media fiasco surrounding them. Even their playoff performances are roughly the same. So, to sum up, despite the former poster saying (I'm paraphrasing here a bit) that they would both decline due to burning the candle at both ends and being supposed lockerroom cancers in Philly they're still performing exactly as they were here.
Kind of convenient that literally the only complaint about those two revolved around the media and fans and couldn't be proven by any means really. Also convenient that when that problem doesn't exist outside of Philly it's because they "shaped up".
Carter has been healthy in the playoffs during his prime years in LA.
So ...
What do we think should be at the top of the new coach's list of Bad Things to Make Better with this team?
I'd say that he drill them on puck exits from their own zone, then extend that right to the opposition's blue line: make sure that the puck carrier is supported by some options who aren't standing still. But definitely make getting out of their zone the number 1 thing to perfect. Work it against double forecheck until they are doing it in their sleep.
So ...
What do we think should be at the top of the new coach's list of Bad Things to Make Better with this team?
I'd say that he drill them on puck exits from their own zone, then extend that right to the opposition's blue line: make sure that the puck carrier is supported by some options who aren't standing still. But definitely make getting out of their zone the number 1 thing to perfect. Work it against double forecheck until they are doing it in their sleep.
Yeah it was weird with Carter. Guy was an elite goal scorer and decent two-way guy yet people were tired with his so-called streaky play and missing the net so much. Most high-quantity goal scorers shoot a lot and when that happens you're going to miss a lot as well.
There really aren't as many consistently great goal scorers as Carter when he's healthy.
23 goals his rookie season, then six of his seven seasons between then and now read with 29, 46, 33, 36, 21 in 55, and 26 in 48 (lockout season) goals scored. This season he already has 4 goals.
That's beyond impressive really. If those were all full seasons he easily has three 35+ goal seasons on his resume including one 46 goal one. As well as being an annual 30 goal threat. There's not many players that are consistently that good at getting goals and he's only 28.
Yeah it was weird with Carter. Guy was an elite goal scorer and decent two-way guy yet people were tired with his so-called streaky play and missing the net so much. Most high-quantity goal scorers shoot a lot and when that happens you're going to miss a lot as well.
There really aren't as many consistently great goal scorers as Carter when he's healthy.
23 goals his rookie season, then six of his seven seasons between then and now read with 29, 46, 33, 36, 21 in 55, and 26 in 48 (lockout season) goals scored. This season he already has 4 goals.
That's beyond impressive really. If those were all full seasons he easily has three 35+ goal seasons on his resume including one 46 goal one. As well as being an annual 30 goal threat. There's not many players that are consistently that good at getting goals and he's only 28.
Damn you ninja edit.