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Just throw away a player that cost TWO first round picks?
Very penguin way of doing things.
This team has to stop playing the sunk cost game someday soon.
Just throw away a player that cost TWO first round picks?
Very penguin way of doing things.
And of course the same f**king lines lol…Sullivan doubling down when questioned…let’s hope at least Jarry is back for good
And of course the same f**king lines lol…Sullivan doubling down when questioned…let’s hope at least Jarry is back for good
this coach is cooked, there is nothing left but mush between ears, and visceral reaction on flipping the bird to everyone..
At least put L2 in defensive face off situation, they are way better equipped defending when not in transition, Geno is as good as JC and Zucker and Rust should be better than Kappy and McGinn in battling the walls and transitioning forward...Give L3 way more OZ starts and give them our best Dman to hold the blue line to see if they can keep the puck in OZ for a little bit longer and not kill the momentum...I mean if you were this stubborn to keep them like this at least change their deployment a little bit to minimize the harm
Stuck between being the (miss ya) degenX era and the crosby / malkin superstar era.This team has to stop playing the sunk cost game someday soon.
case in point: Geno is pretty much automatic on Face Offs on his backhand especially when the stakes are high. I bet he wins over 80% of those. Sid I swear loses majority of those ruining our PP since our zone entrance is clusterf*** as we all know. They experimented with that in the preseason and beginning of the season and it worked perfectly and then they stopped. What would be the reason for that, I'll let anyone figure for themselves, but thats just another of those things to show how this coach never ever adjust unless its rediculously late. (Like playing Janko for 80 games and scratch him in playoffs without giving anyone chance to work this out during the season; he is doing the same shit again)It's clear as day and has been for years that Sullivan has absolutely zero belief or trust in Malkin regardless of his line setup in defensive situations even over the burned out husk of Jeff Carter. And many fans even nod solemnly in agreeance.
case in point: Geno is pretty much automatic on Face Offs on his backhand especially when the stakes are high. I bet he wins over 80% of those. Sid I swear loses majority of those ruining our PP since our zone entrance is clusterf*** as we all know. They experimented with that in the preseason and beginning of the season and it worked perfectly and then they stopped. What would be the reason for that, I'll let anyone figure for themselves, but thats just another of those things to show how this coach never ever adjust unless its rediculously late. (Like playing Janko for 80 games and scratch him in playoffs without giving anyone chance to work this out during the season; he is doing the same shit again)
Sullisma thought process probably goes like this:
Bergeron is great at winning faceoffs. So is Carter. Therefore Carter must be a great shutdown center since Bergeron is one. QED.
Indeed. Especially when your "shutdown" line is probably going to lose the puck about five seconds after winning the face off anyway.The amount of hand-wringing invested in friggin' faceoffs is kinda pathetic TBH.
Indeed. Especially when your "shutdown" line is probably going to lose the puck about five seconds after winning the face off anyway.
look, you want the great Jeff Carter to do something more, you'll just simply have to give him more ice time.Indeed. Especially when your "shutdown" line is probably going to lose the puck about five seconds after winning the face off anyway.
look, you want the great Jeff Carter to do something more, you'll just simply have to give him more ice time.
look, you want the great Jeff Carter to do something more, you'll just simply have to give him more ice time.
In fairness here - you can make a case for his usage and his confidence- sure.....but at some point players have to adjust to systems and teams....and Kappy, when given an opportunity, completely lacks any creativity or danger whatsoever. Like, when he's 1 v 1, rushing, or has players cutting to the net (Carter) - all he does is skate hard to the wall and pass behind him whether anyone is there or not. Or he'll skate below the net and hold the puck on the board. He's not going for one timers or trying to generate. That stuff is on him.
This isn't all on Sully or the system. If he showed ANY glimpse whatosever of being dangerous offensively I'd say give him a shot in the top 6 - but I'd sooner reward O'Connor at this point. Kappy needs a new team more than anyone else here.
The Pens were expecting Kessel-lite and instead got McGinn at his absolute best that he hasn't even been/done here yet.
Kap needs to focus on scoring goals, putting as many shots on net as possible, only 68 shots so far this season. That's for a guy they were considering top six material, he should watch Rakell because he could totally be that version. He's been doing some recently, shots, but he's still not having the success he's been hoping for.
Kap needs to go to a team that can let him be more, more PP time and such.
I'd say Kap nuked Kap. How many times has he been tried with Malkin?
Yeah so..you both just ignored his first season and how he played in Toronto to how he's been destroyed here. Lol.
No point in arguing with blokes that ignore proof.
Yeah so..you both just ignored his first season and how he played in Toronto to how he's been destroyed here. Lol.
No point in arguing with blokes that ignore proof.
Don't think anyone is ignoring that. But it's quite silly to look at an athelete's performance from several years ago and play mental gymnastics on why that isn't the same situation today.
Do we do that with Carter? Or Dumo? Why is it okay for some players to fall off but not others? Only because Kappy is younger is he still a threat offensively? I mean, he MIGHT be...if he goes a to a team that has worse top 6 forwards and is given tons of chances he'd certainly score more - but he won't make the Penguins better by getting into OUR top 6 because he's not better than any of the forwards up there, not offensively or defensively. If he can't learn another role it's time for him to go. Either the org was convinced he could - or HE was convinced he could because they chose to re-sign him to play in the bottom 6. He just isn't cut out for this team.
1. It's not a competition between Hextall and Sully. People are arguing like it's one's fault and not the other. Both of these guys are absolutely sucking balls right now. Sully refusing to stray from his sticktoit-ivness. Hextall not doing shit while NYR scoops up Tarasenko, Mikkola, Motte. Both of these guys are f***ing losers. You can't excuse one for the other's shortcomings.
2. It's abundantly clear by now the 3rd line isamongthe worst in the league. (All of these guys were brought to you by Sleepy, btw, though again this isn't a pissing contest). Carter is past his expiry date, Kapanen experiment didn't work in Pittsburgh, McGinn is massively hot or cold. So F***ing do something you cowards. Scratch Carter, waive Kapanen, do something, at least try something, you have nothing to lose at this point.
3. I wonder how much of all this mess comes down to FSG and their complacency - their lack of interest to actually shake things up, instead choosing to ride out the core to sell jerseys and season tickets. Rutherford misplaced some futures, sure, but there was no doubting his engagement and activity with other league GMs. This org hasn't done jack shit since the draft+UFA deadline. Things have noticeably changed since the FSG change.
And of course the same f**king lines lol…Sullivan doubling down when questioned…let’s hope at least Jarry is back for good
I've seen this trend with a lot of players under Sullivan. They're known for being a certain type of player and suddenly completely change and then when they leave they go back to their normal style. Like I showed you, Kapanen when he got here was that player you thought he was and he was that same one In Toronto. So what's change since? Coaching? Telling him to play a certain way?Sure, but where did that Kap go? I mean, you can't ignore last year trying so hard and nothing. I think you are totally ignoring consistencies/inconsistencies.
But they should totally keep pounding that round peg in a square hole, right?
Fit is not there, and they have tried over and over with him.
Don't think anyone is ignoring that. But it's quite silly to look at an athelete's performance from several years ago and play mental gymnastics on why that isn't the same situation today.
Do we do that with Carter? Or Dumo? Why is it okay for some players to fall off but not others? Only because Kappy is younger is he still a threat offensively? I mean, he MIGHT be...if he goes a to a team that has worse top 6 forwards and is given tons of chances he'd certainly score more - but he won't make the Penguins better by getting into OUR top 6 because he's not better than any of the forwards up there, not offensively or defensively. If he can't learn another role it's time for him to go. Either the org was convinced he could - or HE was convinced he could because they chose to re-sign him to play in the bottom 6. He just isn't cut out for this team.
Kapanen isn't really being used any differently. He was a 3rd liner in Toronto and the only difference here is he's not used on the PK.I've seen this trend with a lot of players under Sullivan. They're known for being a certain type of player and suddenly completely change and then when they leave they go back to their normal style. Like I showed you, Kapanen when he got here was that player you thought he was and he was that same one In Toronto. So what's change since? Coaching? Telling him to play a certain way?
He doesn't drive the net, he doesn't race up the ice anymore, he barely shoots, he's being told to play a physical grinder game and that he needs to engage more in that area and they changed a player we needed to be selfish with shooting into another plug.
Gee I wonder who likes that sort?
Tanner Pearson was a solid player for us but Sullivan misused the shit out of him as well. Look at McCann In Seattle being utilized the way we are with Zucker, imagine that. Look, a player that has played a certain way for years on a team and then when he first gets here and is suddenly different to the point where he's mentally struggling and questioning himself, that isn't a player changing, it's a player being told to play a certain way to change what he's been playing as for most of his life.
That's like getting a f***ing Ferrari and using it like an F150.