canadianguy77
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Kunitz is back on the 1st PP unit again, instead of Perron, which I think is really dumb.
Post-Game Talk: Pens vs. Blues
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Kunitz is back on the 1st PP unit again, instead of Perron, which I think is really dumb.
IcedCapp
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Why do people think Malkin is being a team player for having Kunitz on his line?
You guys are really out to lunch. This is Chris Kunitz, the same guy Sidney Crosby is ready to emasculate his coach for... you can't simultaneously believe THAT and then think Malkin feels burdened by him. Our perception of Kunitz is far-different than the players' perception of him.
You guys are really out to lunch. This is Chris Kunitz, the same guy Sidney Crosby is ready to emasculate his coach for... you can't simultaneously believe THAT and then think Malkin feels burdened by him. Our perception of Kunitz is far-different than the players' perception of him.
Huh? I didn't read that anywhere. I'm sure Malkin thinks Kunitz is a great player. Then again, to hear Geno tell it, the Pens are full of all star caliber guys.
Look, we both know there's only one solution here. It's for the GM to save Sid and Geno from Kunitz.
Tarasenko was going bonkers. Then, Backes tried some retribution with Geno, and he ignored it, which only drove that team more bonkers. First time I've seen them pull it off like this in a long time.
Zen Arcade
Bigger than Kiss
I loved Bortuzzo going at Backes. He's taken liberties in pretty much every game the Pens and Blues have played.
Bort needs to get that swagger and chip on his shoulder back and stop playing like he's afraid of getting suspended.
MtlPenFan
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Another thing that may have been done to death in the GDT:
How awful is Scuderi at everything that involves having to do something with the puck?
I wish there was some sort of mathematical formula that shows everyone in the media who loves him that for every good play he makes with his positioning and "good stick," he negates it 10 times over with every Hal Gill like clear off the wall, his inability to skate his way out of trouble, and how he absolutely obliterates any cycle in the offensive zone when he becomes an option at the point. Add all that stuff up, and it doesn't come anywhere close to making up for what supposed good he does in the defensive zone.
And for God's sakes, Lapierre hasn't been quite the troll I was waiting for, but the guy is fast and works hard to get to the puck AND keep it. But all of that is once again destroyed by playing with one guy who shouldn't be in the NHL and another who's better suited for the ECHL. Can't stress enough how badly this needs improving.
And it really should be Beau out there with Geno and Comeau. It would make as good a second line we could come up with, but unfortunately it's going to take something drastically bad (moreso than now) from Kunitz for MJ to pull the trigger on dropping him to the third line.
How awful is Scuderi at everything that involves having to do something with the puck?
I wish there was some sort of mathematical formula that shows everyone in the media who loves him that for every good play he makes with his positioning and "good stick," he negates it 10 times over with every Hal Gill like clear off the wall, his inability to skate his way out of trouble, and how he absolutely obliterates any cycle in the offensive zone when he becomes an option at the point. Add all that stuff up, and it doesn't come anywhere close to making up for what supposed good he does in the defensive zone.
And for God's sakes, Lapierre hasn't been quite the troll I was waiting for, but the guy is fast and works hard to get to the puck AND keep it. But all of that is once again destroyed by playing with one guy who shouldn't be in the NHL and another who's better suited for the ECHL. Can't stress enough how badly this needs improving.
And it really should be Beau out there with Geno and Comeau. It would make as good a second line we could come up with, but unfortunately it's going to take something drastically bad (moreso than now) from Kunitz for MJ to pull the trigger on dropping him to the third line.
Zen Arcade
Bigger than Kiss
I think Lapierre has been gradually ramping up his physical play, but yeah, anything he does to gain possession or pressure defensemen is wasted on that line.
Kind of the problem. Asking him to troll is tough when he's skating with two guys who require him to do everything in his power just to hold on for dear life.
Will always take a win if they play like this. Of course the next few games are the real test. Can they play like this consistently? Or did they play a somewhat disinterested Blues team, combined with some adrenaline from trade implications if they would lose. Also have to agree with those commenting that JR will make decisions based on overall play not on one or two victories after he makes those comments in the media. Maybe it's a way to gauge which players are really mailing it in, whilst showing other teams they can still be a positive. Anyway, let us hope that MJ won't inexplicably mess with the lines.
Biggest minus of the night goes to the St. Louis Blues Fans.
I don't care where you're from in the United States or what team you cheer for, you DO NOT CHANGE THE LYRICS TO THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER! It's absolutely insulting to anyone that has fought for this country. That anthem is for our nation, not for your ****ing sports team! Ridiculous that ANYONE would think that is acceptable.
On the hockey side of things.
+ Top 6 forwards including the line combo of Perron-Crosby-Horny, the other line combo wasn't great but I think if you switch Bennett for Comeau it could be better.
+Greiss, dude made the saves we needed when the Blues were in it. Wish we could have got him the shutout but the jackasses sitting behind me tonight wouldn't shut the **** up about how they wanted him to get a shutout starting after the first intermission. But then again they wouldn't shut the **** up about anything, really horrible representatives of our team...
+ Pens are 2-0 this season in games i've attended
I don't care where you're from in the United States or what team you cheer for, you DO NOT CHANGE THE LYRICS TO THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER! It's absolutely insulting to anyone that has fought for this country. That anthem is for our nation, not for your ****ing sports team! Ridiculous that ANYONE would think that is acceptable.
On the hockey side of things.
+ Top 6 forwards including the line combo of Perron-Crosby-Horny, the other line combo wasn't great but I think if you switch Bennett for Comeau it could be better.
+Greiss, dude made the saves we needed when the Blues were in it. Wish we could have got him the shutout but the jackasses sitting behind me tonight wouldn't shut the **** up about how they wanted him to get a shutout starting after the first intermission. But then again they wouldn't shut the **** up about anything, really horrible representatives of our team...
+ Pens are 2-0 this season in games i've attended
Lapierre seems to play with blinders on. That may not be a bad thing given his linemates though.
systemsgo
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Huh? I didn't read that anywhere. I'm sure Malkin thinks Kunitz is a great player. Then again, to hear Geno tell it, the Pens are full of all star caliber guys.
Look, we both know there's only one solution here. It's for the GM to save Sid and Geno from Kunitz.
Tarasenko was going bonkers. Then, Backes tried some retribution with Geno, and he ignored it, which only drove that team more bonkers. First time I've seen them pull it off like this in a long time.
I think it's because someone said that "Malkin puts up with a lot" in the last page. If it's really the get-along-gang, then the entire team's core get along and Malkin wouldn't have an issue with playing with Kunitz like we do.
I loved the Pens this game, I thought it might be Greiss' best game. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Pens played well tomorrow against the Panthers and collapse against the Caps again.
And yes, trade Kunitz. The sooner the better.
How did st Louis change the anthem? I tried a quick googling and didn't see anything, but I've yet to completely wake up yet..
clefty
Retrovertigo
The Crosby , Perron , Hornqvist line needs to be left untouched, What people need to realize is that Kunitz is 35 and is no longer a first line winger. He may not even be a second line winger but he is better than anyone else this team has right now.
Tender Rip
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I doubt such comments have much to do with Kunitz.
We hear about Sid demanding to play with Dupuis, to the detriment of the team. We hear about him demanding to play with Kunitz, to the detriment of the team. We see him get first shot at any winger not Neal (because Sid was injured, and still Bylsma said the plan was for Neal to play with Sid despite tearing it up with 71). We see Malkin get significantly fewer minutes even while playing as well or better. We see that when they mix up the PP, Malkin is categoricallly on the second unit. Etc. etc.
If Geno has an ego.... He is keeping it well hidden.
Malkin does not play fewer minutes than Crosby that is not factual. Malkin is a great player but he is not better than Crosby
Average TOI this season:
Sidney Crosby 19:52
Evgeni Malkin 19:15
Also Malkin's been better than Crosby against top competition long time now
The Old Master
come and take it.
as for Beau,,,,i don't think we will see the "real" Beau until he gets a full healthy summer in the gym. to rebuild up strength in his wrists. anyone who has had problems with their wrist knows it takes a long time before its right. but he has shone the skill that we thought he had. imo
Asuna
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I would argue less than 40 seconds a night is an insignificant difference, and that he was right in saying Geno doesn't get "significantly less" TOI like the poster above said.
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