Salary Cap: Pens Off Season Thread: Pre Free Agency Shenanigans!

[Gurglesons]

What

I just explained it. I know you want to go extreme and say everything Hextall said, but Jeff Carter prior to his awful extension (which once again you said was a great deal...) put up 56 points in like 80ish games including 28 goals and then 10 points and 8 goals in 13 playoff games.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

Not saying this isn’t the correct strategy but…didn’t we rip into Hextall for this same exact strategy?

 

[tom_servo]

I was expecting worse numbers for Blake Wheeler last season than 55 points in 72 games. 40 even strength points.

For reference, Reilly Smith had 56 in 78 (42 EV).

 

[SEALBound]

Given who was not qualified, there's a plethora of good young talent worth taking chances on.

Steel
Geekie
Sprong
Comtois
Gurianov
Kostin
Yamamoto
Jost
White
Fischer
Boqvist
Malgin

And in addition to the current UFAs that I like:

Sunqvist
Suter
Duchene
Wheeler
Soucy
Brown
Kerfoot
Compher
ERod

We should be able to sign a decent bottom 6.

 

[Peat]

Read today that Wheeler's transition game is gone. Hard pass.


I also think Smith for 3rd and the Rakell/Carter trades are even on paper given circumstances. Cap space in the off season is one hell of a drug.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Not saying this isn’t the correct strategy but…didn’t we rip into Hextall for this same exact strategy?

Rossi also said like 2 hours ago that Jarry and the Penguins were still negotiating and the Penguins want to trade for Hanifin.

 

[Gurglesons]

Boeser is a 1 dimensional forward that played with better linemates

Boeser's most common line mates were Di Giuseppe and Miller versus Smith having Karlsson and Nic Roy.

Also, if we are talking intangibles Smith has a lot. I just don't think he is what I'd consider a "great addition". He's another Rust, Rakell, Granlund (in his prime) type. Solid two way forward who can play all situations, positional flexibility, but I think Vegas is a better team replacing Smith with Barbashev.

You brought up EV Strength production. I'm just saying Smith is 90th amongst forwards last season. That's good especially for his usage. But last year was one of his best years. Would it surprise anyone to see him come here, struggle and be a bit of a disappointment at 32?

 

[Ugene Magic]

Clang was announced as the prospect at the time of the trade.



What

PENGUINS TRADE: Hextall Gets Rakell from Anaheim, Aston-Reese & Simon Dealt

 

[Empoleon8771]

PENGUINS TRADE: Hextall Gets Rakell from Anaheim, Aston-Reese & Simon Dealt

Kingerski literally said that Clang was announced as the prospect at 5:30 PM.

What are you even arguing here? Clang wasn't a throw-in for the deal, that's just a fact.

 

[Jacob]

You can’t really compare the trades. Rakell was a deadline rental, Smith was taking advantage of a team in dire cap constraints.

 

[tom_servo]

What

Totally agree with him. Carter and Rakell were both wins at the time. Much like JR, Hextall started huffing one night and recovered months later to a slew of bad deals. He's probably still piecing it together.

 

[Josey Wales]

Miles Wood sounds like a Porn Name

 

[tom_servo]

Miles Wood sounds like a Porn Name

Miles Long would be better

 

[Ugene Magic]

Kingerski literally said that Clang was announced as the prospect at 5:30 PM.

What are you even arguing here? Clang wasn't a throw-in for the deal, that's just a fact.

Which is after 3PM. Time of the call.

 

[SEALBound]

Not saying this isn’t the correct strategy but…didn’t we rip into Hextall for this same exact strategy?

Yeah, I'm not buying this. At all.

Dubas and Co will be aggressive in getting the guys they want.

Maybe if there's a 4RW job open and someone comes to him, maybe then. Big positions to fill or trades to make, he'll be aggressive.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Which is after 3PM. Time of the call.

Again, what are you arguing here?

Trades get announced after the 3 PM deadline literally every year. If I remember right, we heard that Rakell was going to Pittsburgh, then heard it was a 2nd with Simon and ZAR going out for cap reasons and then Clang was also included.

 

[tom_servo]

All we have to do is wait for the deals and react, fellas. No need making up a scenario and getting mad at it

 

[SEALBound]

Can we not talk about a 2022 trade deadline deal and look ahead to 2023 free agency?

 

[SomeDude]

Not the biggest name but I’d be all about brining in Jaret Anderson-Dolan since he wasn’t qualified. Could be a good Poehling replacement

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Miles Long would be better

Sir Loin best.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Again, what are you arguing here?

Trades get announced after the 3 PM deadline literally every year. If I remember right, we heard that Rakell was going to Pittsburgh, then heard it was a 2nd with Simon and ZAR going out for cap reasons and then Clang was also included.

Nobody knew who the prospect was at the time of the trade.

 

[Peat]

Miles Long would be better

I wanna call my future kid that but the missus is adamantly opposed

 

[Empoleon8771]

Nobody knew who the prospect was at the time of the trade.

According to twitter, the timing of the deal was:

-Rakell to Pittsburgh was announced at 3:05 PM
-Rakell going for a 2nd and a prospect was announced at about 3:40 PM
-Simon and ZAR going out was announced at about 4:00 PM
-The total deal, which announced Clang was going in the trade, was announced at 4:20 PM

It was like an hour gap.

I wanna call my future kid that but the missus is adamantly opposed

I want to call my future kid "doesn't exist" because I don't want it to exist

 

[Jobeycool]

We have a ton of cap space?

We have a ton of cap space?

Sorry about the double reply... it goes faster than you think..

 

[mephisto1812]

I’m extremely type A to the point I never envision truly retiring so I get why people need to continue to occupy their minds but how the f*** do you not f*** off and go golf for the rest of your life if you’re Babcock lmaoo

Coach your grandkids peweee team or do a podcast if you need your competitive fix

I'll pass on the golf part, but I'm all in on the f*** off and do something else train.