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Yeah, but we didn't need Boucher in '09. We'll PROBABLY need Eaton this year.
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Yeah, but we didn't need Boucher in '09. We'll PROBABLY need Eaton this year.
When Ovechkin took out Gonchar's knee and we rolled with 7 defenseman while he hobbled on one leg, we were damn lucky to have a calming veteran like Boucher in our stables.Yeah, but we didn't need Boucher in '09. We'll PROBABLY need Eaton this year.
According to Madden ( i no i no) that the Pens signed Eaton to play him and send Despres down to the AHL to get more playing time since he has been making some mistakes.
Though if we needed a defense defensemen then why did we get rid of Strait?
I'd rather see Despres or Bortuzzo play than Eaton. I hope Eaton is just the #7 or #8.
At some point the Pens are going to have to ride it out with Despres. The kid isn't going to play flawless hockey all the time. That's not a realistic expectation. He will make mistakes but you hope the good outweighs the bad and that he eventually finds some consistency.
Although to play devils advocate, Despres may not be that needed right now with the way Letang, Martin and Niskanen have been scoring. Those 3 give the Pens enough PMD's to get by.
I don't think Strait was what the Pens were looking for. I think they wanted an experienced defensive D that could be scratched for long stretches and not have it effect his development. Strait needed to play.
I agree.Despres is going to have to play consistent NHL minutes to polish his game. Not big AHL minutes, not CHL minutes, not pond hockey minutes. Even if he goes down, plays 24 minutes a night and works out some issues - which are all mental - he's still going to have issues when he gets back to playing hockey at NHL speed.
The Pens are one of, if not the best, teams in the conference. Why not let him ride those mistakes out now so that next year - when I'm assuming you're going to need him to play top-4 minutes, he's ready and as mistake-free as you could make him. And, conversely, if you don't think he's going to be in your top-4 next year, please just trade him for a winger, because his skills are wasted playing 10-minutes a night.
Sending Despres down would be beyond stupid. We waived Strait and traded Lovejoy b/c Despres made us a better team moving forward according to DB.
Despres is going to have to play consistent NHL minutes to polish his game. Not big AHL minutes, not CHL minutes, not pond hockey minutes. Even if he goes down, plays 24 minutes a night and works out some issues - which are all mental - he's still going to have issues when he gets back to playing hockey at NHL speed.
The Pens are one of, if not the best, teams in the conference. Why not let him ride those mistakes out now so that next year - when I'm assuming you're going to need him to play top-4 minutes, he's ready and as mistake-free as you could make him. And, conversely, if you don't think he's going to be in your top-4 next year, please just trade him for a winger, because his skills are wasted playing 10-minutes a night.
I agree.
According to Madden ( i no i no) that the Pens signed Eaton to play him and send Despres down to the AHL to get more playing time since he has been making some mistakes.
And to many times Despres was scratched against tougher teams an replaced with Borts.
So this would take care of that problem and have Eaton play with Engelland.
My take on this, is we have all of these Young D and whom do we play, yep the older players.
Though if we needed a defense defensemen then why did we get rid of Strait?
I 100% disagree.
Sorry, I have to say it twice: I 100% disagree.
I understand: there will always be SOME learning curve when a prospect makes a jump, and if Despres goes down, he will not be a perfect player when he comes back up. But he damn well can become a less mistake-prone player when he comes back up, and the learning curve a lot less.
Yes, I would be a bit sad to not be able to see Despres play up here, but at the same time, I get upset seeing Bortuzzo not get a chance to play. And, perhaps most important: we are competing for the Cup right now. We're not like the Winnipeg Jets or some other mediocre team competing for the last playoff spot, where we can justify not winning while our kids develop. If Despres is ready, that's great. If he's not quite ready, he will still improve A LOT by playing in WBS.
If he gets sent back down, watch him become a MUCH more dominant player down there -- perhaps even best on the team -- and it will do wonders for his confidence. And both he and his coaches will know exactly what he needs to work on to get back up here; and when he does come back up, the transition would be much more seamless.
Anyway, Despres is great. He will be great. But I don't think he's ready now. You know how I can tell? Watch the partners who play with him. Engo looks more nervous and inconsistent than I have seen since the last 2 years he's been up here as a regular. Letang looks downright uncomfortable sometimes, and feels like he has to do too much to compensate. Despres has some amazing attributes, but he's not more consistent and steady than Bortuzzo. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
I think Despres is an NHL defenseman, but at age 21, there's room for improvement, and he can work on his game playing big minutes in the AHL.
If this stuff about eaton and despres is true it really sucks so basically were signing eaton to be our 6th def because we dont trust despres or bort? If thats the case we need to trade for a better def I cant imagine anybody here wants to see eaton part of our top 6 going into the playoffs.
Who is saying he should be top 6? A few of us are saying send Depres back to the AHL and Eaton to be the 7th D. Depres will be better server, in my opinion of course, playing big minutes in the AHL than being scratched or playing 10 in the NHL.
Also he does not have to pass through waivers.
What am I missing about Despres? I think he's been fantastic and have no problem seeing him log heavier ES minutes w/ Letang. I think he's been good defensively, uses his size pretty well, wins a lot of board battles, is confident from the point and can actually get a puck through traffic and to the net. I want to see him get more responsibilities. And this was before I saw his 5v5 Corsi rating only trails Crosby and Malkin (4v5 is pretty good, but very limited minutes).
I'd like to see more Despres and Bortuzzo and a little less Engelland, to be quite honest. No way would I send Despres down. He makes mistakes, but they're correctable and they're evened out and then some by the good plays he makes.
Eaton doesn't make any of those three expendable. He's just more depth.