Post-Game Talk: Penguins 7, Flyers 0 - It's Clobberin' Time

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They're all flawed teams, including us. :laugh: It's not like any one is the 1972 Red Army team here.
At least in the East. Out West there are some legitimate juggernauts in Nashville, Winnipeg and potentially Vegas. It's such a shame that one of Nashville and Winnipeg will be out in the second round.
 

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At least in the East. Out West there are some legitimate juggernauts in Nashville, Winnipeg and potentially Vegas. It's such a shame that one of Nashville and Winnipeg will be out in the second round.

Vegas is misleading.

The kings looked like it was their first time making the playoffs or even playing hockey, they looked slow, heavy, and you'd think that entire line-up lacked any sort of talent.

Not that anyone should diminish the hard work by VGK, they took it to them and Kings just looked lost as hell. Quick had a dirty play and then Doughty tried to chirp them and that failed. But holy crap, that Kings team really needs to be blown up if they are swept by the VGK or if they lose to them in general.
 
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The best teams are Nashville, Boston, Winnipeg, Tampa, Toronto and Pittsburgh. I think Philly is the worst team in the playoffs besides Colorado (they’d be the worst if Col was healthy) and I thought that before this game. Hard to overcome a bad goalie and a bad coach. Hopefully Pittsburgh wins this quickly.
 

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Fall asleep on couch, wake up, check the scores and my reaction:

Winnipeg wins, good.
LA loses, ha ha, that's what you get for acquiring Phaneuf.
..and Pittsburgh... what the hell? HA HA HA Yes, die Flyer scum die!
...
...does this mean the playoffs are already over?
 

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Vegas is misleading.

The kings looked like it was their first time making the playoffs or even playing hockey, they looked slow, heavy, and you'd think that entire line-up lacked any sort of talent.

Not that anyone should diminish the hard work by VGK, they took it to them and Kings just looked lost as hell. Quick had a dirty play and then Doughty tried to chirp them and that failed. But holy crap, that Kings team really needs to be blown up if they are swept by the VGK or if they lose to them in general.

Not that the Kings are known for exciting hockey, but I tried to watch that game and was bored to tears by the 10 minute mark of the first period. Neither team looks like they'll make it out of the first round, but one of them has to. I won't be watching any more of their games.
 
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Vegas is misleading.

The kings looked like it was their first time making the playoffs or even playing hockey, they looked slow, heavy, and you'd think that entire line-up lacked any sort of talent.

Not that anyone should diminish the hard work by VGK, they took it to them and Kings just looked lost as hell. Quick had a dirty play and then Doughty tried to chirp them and that failed. But holy crap, that Kings team really needs to be blown up if they are swept by the VGK or if they lose to them in general.
Vegas is legit. Certainly not on the level of the Preds or Jets, but they're a really strong team. The Kings aren't a powerhouse or anything, but Vegas made them look bad. Much like how the Pens made the Flyers look bad.
 
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Sheahan and Brassard looked really solid. Jake the snake feels it in the playoffs. There will be ups and downs, but if Murray is feeling it along with the rest of the Bullet Club @ColePens can agree this will be a lethal team
 

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Man oh man did the Pens smack those clowns up.

Loved Murray’s game, good to set the tone for the playoffs with a shutout.

Small nitpick would be that the top 6 still looks off to me...I know, it was 7-0. But Geno did everything by himself out there, zero chemistry with Hornqvist. Crosby-Guentzel looked terrific together, but Rust seemed to be on his own little island on that line. He had a good game individually but still doesn’t seem to gel with Crosby.
 

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The advantage Vegas has in the West is that they're a fast team. They may not have huge star players, but speed is a great advantage against many teams in that conference--the Kings especially.

But back on track--hopefully this stomp doesn't lead to any sort of complacency. Thank god we started quickly, hopefully we can use this to snowball through this series. Still a LOT of hockey left though.

A 7-0 win is as good as a 1-0 win. That's what both coaches are telling their teams, for different reasons.
 
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Another plus is that sid+Geno only played 16 and 18 minutes

Giroux+couts played 18 and 20 minutes in comparison.
 

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Vegas is legit. Certainly not on the level of the Preds or Jets, but they're a really strong team. The Kings aren't a powerhouse or anything, but Vegas made them look bad. Much like how the Pens made the Flyers look bad.

LA just looked disorganized and the VGK got in their heads, they were being punished by speed and physicality and were not composed at all. I think that series will be a battle, but the VGK win was more like the Kings were just that bad, I was watching that game and I just couldn't believe what I was watching. The VGK team was already in their heads. I expect that veteran squad to come out in the next game and win it. That one is definitely going to 6 or 7 games though.
 

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Not that the Kings are known for exciting hockey, but I tried to watch that game and was bored to tears by the 10 minute mark of the first period. Neither team looks like they'll make it out of the first round, but one of them has to. I won't be watching any more of their games.

It was a lot of Kings trying to get into the VGK zone, then acting like the puck was the hot potato and gave it up easily to the Knights. Like, it was comically bad. Also, Kyle Clifford is so useless. I can't believe there was a time I wanted that clown for the 4th line.
 

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LA just looked disorganized and the VGK got in their heads, they were being punished by speed and physicality and were not composed at all. I think that series will be a battle, but the VGK win was more like the Kings were just that bad, I was watching that game and I just couldn't believe what I was watching. The VGK team was already in their heads. I expect that veteran squad to come out in the next game and win it. That one is definitely going to 6 or 7 games though.
I don't even think one needs to look that deep. Vegas is a team that racked up 109 points, and they're fast. They're a team of castoffs with a chip on their shoulder, to a man. They're hungry, they're determined and they're built on speed--that's a really, really bad team for the Kings to face in the first round imo. But the West belongs to the Preds or Jets. The idiotic playoff format cheapens it a bit by having them (potentially) meet in the second round as opposed to the WCF, but one of those two is coming out of that conference and, if we're being honest, is the likely favorite for the Cup.

Playoff hockey is something else, man. What a great time of year.
 

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Seeing shots of Sid on the bench today really spoke to the existence of a switch (that and his hat-trick I mean.) The guy had that psychotic glare that he’s been lacking, and if he doesn’t care about the regular season we should follow his lead.
 

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I don't even think one needs to look that deep. Vegas is a team that racked up 109 points, and they're fast. They're a team of castoffs with a chip on their shoulder, to a man. They're hungry, they're determined and they're built on speed--that's a really, really bad team for the Kings to face in the first round imo. But the West belongs to the Preds or Jets. The idiotic playoff format cheapens it a bit by having them (potentially) meet in the second round as opposed to the WCF, but one of those two is coming out of that conference and, if we're being honest, is the likely favorite for the Cup.

Playoff hockey is something else, man. What a great time of year.

If it's the Jets vs the Preds in the 2nd round, Jets will probably take that. The Preds have too many people that will be baited into the dirty stuff that the Jets do and the Jets play that game, it's something they'd be banking on. For RJ to get thrown off from it (Kesler was so in his head) and then there's that moron Hartnell, ticking time bomb that permed wankbucket.
 

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Seeing shots of Sid on the bench today really spoke to the existence of a switch (that and his hat-trick I mean.) The guy had that psychotic glare that he’s been lacking, and if he doesn’t care about the regular season we should follow his lead.
That's Sid after winning back 2 back, being 30yrs old and knowing what battles ahead will be like. He just looked stupidly dialed in for the 3rd period. But man he had some moments where he just had those brain farts he had all season, throwing blind passes to the other team, etc. But as the game wore on, that lessened and the old Sid was back.
 

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At least in the East. Out West there are some legitimate juggernauts in Nashville, Winnipeg and potentially Vegas. It's such a shame that one of Nashville and Winnipeg will be out in the second round.

All of whom are also quite beatable and have their own problems. Again, they're well-constructed teams but they've still got flaws. Vegas has questions with goaltending and offensive depth. Nashville too. 'Peg is also eminently beatable.

I really don't think there's a single team in this league that is built on par with the way those old Soviet teams were, or those stacked Wings, Pens, Oilers, and Isles dynasties of yesteryear. The salary cap, league parity, and coaching advances have killed that era for good.

So, in the end, should we make it to the last dance, I have absolute confidence that this team can beat anyone out of the West, should we get there. (Also it shouldn't need to be said, but I'll reiterate again, that we can also, like any of those teams, be beaten ourselves.)

But on the whole, as long as we beat the Flyers and the Caps lose, I'm cool with how this all shakes out.
 

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I do agree with Coach that Vegas is going to be a lot harder to handle than people think. I slept on them for the beginning of the year, but GMGM assembled a great team there, and I think that deserves a huge amount of respect.

When was the last time we had an expansion team come in and be so competative so quickly? The Oilers?
 

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Every time I think about Vegas I think about how the Penguins skated them into a fine powder at MAF’s comeback game. I think Pittsburgh beats Winnipeg and Vegas if it ever comes to that while Nashville is a tossup.
 

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I do agree with Coach that Vegas is going to be a lot harder to handle than people think. I slept on them for the beginning of the year, but GMGM assembled a great team there, and I think that deserves a huge amount of respect.

When was the last time we had an expansion team come in and be so competative so quickly? The Oilers?
I get the sense that GG is the one that assembled that team, GMGM is just too much of a moron to not do it without a lot of input from his coach.
 

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All of whom are also quite beatable and have their own problems. Again, they're well-constructed teams but they've still got flaws. Vegas has questions with goaltending and offensive depth. Nashville too. 'Peg is also eminently beatable.

I really don't think there's a single team in this league that is built on par with the way those old Soviet teams were, or those stacked Wings, Pens, Oilers, and Isles dynasties of yesteryear. The salary cap, league parity, and coaching advances have killed that era for good.

So, in the end, should we make it to the last dance, I have absolute confidence that this team can beat anyone out of the West, should we get there. (Also it shouldn't need to be said, but I'll reiterate again, that we can also, like any of those teams, be beaten ourselves.)

But on the whole, as long as we beat the Flyers and the Caps lose, I'm cool with how this all shakes out.
As long as we have Sid, Geno, Phil and Murray, we can beat anyone.

I didn't mean to imply anyone was unbeatable, but the Preds and Jets are the two teams that, if they didn't have to meet in the second round (potentially) against each other, would be sure-fire guesses to make it to the WCF. I just think they're essentially tier 1 teams, whereas Vegas is tier 2, and the rest are tier 3.

The East is much more up in the air, imo. Like you said, we've got as good a chance as anyone, simply due to the stars we can put on the ice each night. We might not be winning tight games with stifling defensive play and sound, structured hockey--but the offensive firepower we can throw at the other team can and will overwhelm on any given shift and totally take over a game.
 
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