Rumor: Patrick Kane interested in two teams: NYR & TOR

[centipede2233]

No you actually don’t need a third team, the Hawks have the ability to eat 50% of Kane and/or Toews contracts and take back contracts equal to the other 50%.

For example, Kane to the Leafs at 50% = $5.25m, Leafs send Kerfoot $3.5m and Holl $2m back in the deal. Leafs actually create $250,000 in annual cap space, now just add the pieces to satisfy the Hawks.

Or

Kane to the Oilers at 50% retained = $5.25m, Oilers send Puljujarvi $3m and Foegele $2.75 in annual cap space. Oilers actually create $500,000 in cap space, again just add the pieces to satisfy the Hawks.

Most teams have a bad contract or two they would like to offload, the Hawks would be willing to help those teams to finalize a deal if the price is right.

The problem is dubas doesn’t think holl or kerfooot are bad contracts….

 

[FerrisRox]

No you actually don’t need a third team, the Hawks have the ability to eat 50% of Kane and/or Toews contracts and take back contracts equal to the other 50%.

For example, Kane to the Leafs at 50% = $5.25m, Leafs send Kerfoot $3.5m and Holl $2m back in the deal. Leafs actually create $250,000 in annual cap space, now just add the pieces to satisfy the Hawks.

Cool!

So which defensemen replaces Holl and how is it possible he only makes $250,000?

 

[AvroArrow]

Strange irrational hate.... he makes mistakes, and that's all that people remember. He's an otherwise solid #4, big RHD, not overly physical, plays the PK well. He will likely move on next year, get a $4-5 mil contract, and play well for another team. Yet, when Leafs fans look at other teams big RHD, who can PK, we get all lovesick over them, and are willing to send a ton of assets.

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Note, Sandin's results are more of a usage, QoC than saying he's the best guy...

I think enough rationale has been provided, he makes bonehead plays almost nightly. Especially bad in the playoffs.

4-5M ? LOL.

Cool!

So which defensemen replaces Holl and how is it possible he only makes $250,000?

Connor Timmins

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Steering back to the topic at hand.

With Kane's apparent health issues, the only way I could see Toronto trading for him would be a ratcheting series of conditional picks, similar to how Chicago acquired Timonen back in 2015.

(The below is not a value judgement, just an example)

Example:




Patrick Kane (50% Retained)


Alexander Kerfoot +

1 of the following


Toronto's 2023 2nd round pick
OR

Toronto's 2024 1st round pick (if Kane plays more than 4 games in the playoffs)
OR

Toronto's 2023 1st round pick (if Kane plays more than 8 games in the playoffs)

OR
Toronto's 2023 1st and 2024 2nd round pick (if Toronto makes the 2023 Cup Final)

I would be good with the last one. We make it to the Cup Final f*** a first round pick you can have it.

 

[FerrisRox]

I think enough rationale has been provided, he makes bonehead plays almost nightly. Especially bad in the playoffs.

4-5M ? LOL.


Connor Timmins

Connor Timmons makes more than $250,000 a season. You know, because it's well below the league minimum.

 

[Fogelhund]

Connor Timmons makes more than $250,000 a season. You know, because it's well below the league minimum.

Timmons?

 

[AvroArrow]

Connor Timmons makes more than $250,000 a season. You know, because it's well below the league minimum.

We wouldn't need to clear 250K or any space, he's already on the roster and within the cap

Timmons?

You know who I meant

 

[FerrisRox]

We wouldn't need to clear 250K or any space, he's already on the roster and within the cap

Yes, but the post you were responding was saying that Holl and Kerfoot would be dealt and Kane would be acquired and the Leafs would net $250,000 in cap space.

I then asked who replace Holl, who currently has a roster spot, and you said Timmins. So if Timmins slides into Holl's spot, who takes Timmins spot on the depth chart and he will obviously cost more than $250K.

 

[AvroArrow]

Yes, but the post you were responding was saying that Holl and Kerfoot would be dealt and Kane would be acquired and the Leafs would net $250,000 in cap space.

I then asked who replace Holl, who currently has a roster spot, and you said Timmins. So if Timmins slides into Holl's spot, who takes Timmins spot on the depth chart and he will obviously cost more than $250K.

We wouldn't have net $250K, we would be freeing up another $250K, giving us about 1.4M ish

 

[thusk]

The problem is dubas doesn’t think holl or kerfooot are bad contracts….

Yeah for sure leafs 3rd D since beggining of season at 2M, its a bad contract...

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Blues just possibly Blocked Kane to the two teams he was rumored to want to go to. Kane is gonna hate the Blues even more

 

[ManofSteel55]

The Rangers and Leafs have both blown their metaphorical wads already. Does Kane consider other teams?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Blues just possibly Blocked Kane to the two teams he was rumored to want to go to. Kane is gonna hate the Blues even more

Armstrong gonna be nervous seeing Kane during the ownership meetings

 

[DopeyFish]

The Rangers and Leafs have both blown their metaphorical wads already. Does Kane consider other teams?

leafs still have room for kane, believe it or not.

those 2 players they just acquired have 3.1 mil in cap. if leafs dump kerfoot, they can fit a double retained kane easy

 

[Melrose Munch]

Stay home and sign in NYR in the offseason

 

[Navx94]

leafs still have room for kane, believe it or not.

those 2 players they just acquired have 3.1 mil in cap. if leafs dump kerfoot, they can fit a double retained kane easy

With what assets?

 

[DopeyFish]

With what assets?

prospects?

 

[ManofSteel55]

leafs still have room for kane, believe it or not.

those 2 players they just acquired have 3.1 mil in cap. if leafs dump kerfoot, they can fit a double retained kane easy

Yeah but do they have the assets to give Chicago to get him? I can't imagine they just gift him to the Leafs for nothing.

 

[Navx94]

prospects?

Who? And you don’t think other teams around the league could beat a purely prospects offer

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Reporter: So, Toronto and the Rangers have made trades and are unlikely to bring you in


Kane:

 

[ColbyChaos]

With what assets?

Teams can trade picks later than this years draft

 

[DopeyFish]

Who? And you don’t think other teams around the league could beat a purely prospects offer

Robertson? Steeves? Hirvonen? Minten? Holmberg? (leafs likely want to keep for playoff run) Niemela?

they do have nice prospects

 

[JT Kreider]

Lmao Hawks fans losing trading partners by the day.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Kane must have just tossed his stick after about the Leafs deal

 

[ClydeLee]

Lmao Hawks fans losing trading partners by the day.

Why deride fans? Not even all want him traded or expected him to want to be traded.