That's what I said about Higgins and everyone shat on me.I.M. Fletcher said:I am going to go out and say Eaves could have himself a Ryan Smyth career. There, I said it
That's what I said about Higgins and everyone shat on me.I.M. Fletcher said:I am going to go out and say Eaves could have himself a Ryan Smyth career. There, I said it
BlueAndWhite said:However, so far this season Wellwood has been able to produce offensively despite not being on the top lines for most part of the year.
That's not true, he's been leading the league in goals since the olympic break, he joined the first line about a month before that.habsfansam said:Whatever the playing circumstances, that Higgins now has 20 goals to Wellwood's 11 and has been leading the league in that department since his ascension to the 1st line is an important difference.
I.M. Fletcher said:I am going to go out and say Eaves could have himself a Ryan Smyth career. There, I said it
Murphy said:He'll be better IMO. Eaves has become my favourite Sens player I love watching him play.
NyQuil said:Eaves wasn't even playing on the Senators in October and November when they were at their best. I don't really think you know what you're talking about on this issue.
He was only on the roster pretty much when the injuries began to occur, which coincidentally is also when the team's fortunes swung downwards for a spell.
Freaky Habs Fan said:Well the Habs were only able to score more then 3 goals after the olympics break. Montreal had a hard time scoring goals for most of the year...when you leading scorer don't even have 60 points and your leading goal scorer don't even have 30 goals, your team is far from an offensice powerhouse like Ottawa.
Eaves is a pretty good player, just like Higgins, but swap the two players and I bet you that Eaves would have less points and Higgins would have more points. It's two different team so statwise, it's hard to compare the two player.
We should only talk about their skills...and they are pretty similar.
EDIT: oh and Higgins is way better then Eaves, he got two points tonight against the Sens...just kidding
Some players play better when their's absolutely no pressure. He just joined a powerhouse and I think you had to expect him to struggle a little when he joined. I thought it was an odd acquisition for you guys to make seing as you guys have better 2 way centers than Arnason and Imo Vermette could have done fine on the second line.SammyTheBull said:Arnason was getting some points with Chicago yet he's not producing on the second line of the most porductive team in the league. You could bring what ifs into the topic but I think both are similar in their game and very exciting to watch. Seeing as I get RDS and watch every Habs game I don't miss much of 'Iggins'
I'll say Eaves takes a beating out there a la Ryan Smyth and he gets right back into the play or parks himself infront of the net. A small piece of the puzzle that Ottawa has needed for a long time.
Raging Bull said:I don't recall that, but I do know that whoever coached them both in Belleville (when they were traded for eachother straight up) said that they would end their NHL careers with around the same point totals. I wouldn't compare Wellwood to Spezza at all though, I'm not crazy.
Freaky Habs Fan said:Eaves is a pretty good player, just like Higgins, but swap the two players and I bet you that Eaves would have less points and Higgins would have more points.
Shabutie said:Well, Higgins has been given a shot, and since the olympic break he's proven worthy of it (13 g).
As I said before, Higgins has been playing on the first line since February, he's only been on fire since the olympic break (which is when Koivu and Ryder woke up). For a large part of February Chris carried that line, but they couldn't manage to find the scoreboard.Bileur said:Higgins was playing well before the break but really his offense only came about after being thrown onto the first. He's been playing with Koivu and Ryder, not bad linemates, and IMO that clearly a large part of what has led to his offensive explosion. Koivu is after all one of the best playmakers in the NHL, top 10 for sure.
Shabutie said:As I said before, Higgins has been playing on the first line since February, he's only been on fire since the olympic break (which is when Koivu and Ryder woke up). For a large part of February Chris carried that line, but they couldn't manage to find the scoreboard.
Ya Koivu took a while after the olympic break (I'd say roughly 7-8 games) then he really got going. He's been pretty consistent since and I think 90% of habs fans are surprised/delighted to see a guy like Higgins get this kind of chance and have 20 (+) goals in his rookie season. A future Alternate Captain.Bileur said:It takes a while for guys to get the timing perfect, especially with the pressure on Higgins to produce on the first line (MTL media anyone?) he must have been tremendously nervous. But now they are clicking and we're seeing the results.Plus its not like february was a long month to get working together. I also think the olympics was good for Koivu as he seemed to come back a bit refreshed and he's been making some absolutely sick set ups since then.
BTW the Smyth comparison seems good. Damn I hope we didnt just jinx it.
Raging Bull said:So you guys think Higgins is a much better prospect than Wellwood, correct? No one in their right mind would compare a former OHL scoring champion and someone who was fourth in AHL points last season to him right? Just wondering.........:
Bartender said:Eaves seems to have the edge on offense and in the skating department, while Higins is biger and maybe a tiny bit more polished in the defensive department (not saying that Eaves is not good... just not as polished)
Kyle Chipchura said:Both are very fluid skaters, both are work horses in all three zones, both have very good offensive potential.... Eaves may be more involved in the corners with his physical play, but you can't get much better than Higgins for winning battles in the offensive zone. He'll beat you with his speed and his awesome puck protection. In short, they'll have pretty similar careers IMO.
Mike8 said:I don't think so. One of Higgins' best assets is his deceptive speed. He's one of Montreal's best skaters.
Shabutie said:That's not true, he's been leading the league in goals since the olympic break, he joined the first line about a month before that.
Bartender said:http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid[]=502
Junior and AHL stats means nothing when trying to predict NHL potential
http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/season.htmlhabsfansam said:Looks like you got me... though I don't recall it being as regular as you imply, especially not back in January.
habsfansam said:Especially considering that Raging was talking about Simon Gamache earlier... I mean really, HE lead the entire CHL in scoring so he's definitely a better pro than both Higgins and Wellwood!