Value of: Parayko

[93gilmour93]

not my post, but to answer your question - No.

Haha

 

[Colt55]

I'd do it for Alexandrov. It's a lot of futures from the Oilers, but it's a huge win-now and I would be confident in re-signing Parayko.

You know a lot of people are thinking this is fair. I'm surprised. Yes it hurts from both teams but it also does the following.

For blues
1) opens up 5.5 mil in cap to sign petro, dunn, schwartz
2) blues get a high ceiling rhd prospect similar to petro on elc to take #2rhd when faulk is gone and can play 3rhd next year
3) blues get an offensive minded young center ready to make team next year also on elc.
4) blues can pick at 14 and get a highly toated bluechipper of thier xhosing while also picking at 26 to fill in hole of our farm.

For edm
1) they get the beast in parayko to pair with Kieffer. And nurse can have Larson for shut down. Edm defense just became solid.
2) you get alexandrov whom is a good defensive center projected at mid 2c high 3c and will be ready in another year and can replace losing lavoie.
3) parayko is home town boy and would most likely resign in edm for a good freindly deal.


this is a true win win. Situation and only happens if petro agrees to resign long term.
3)

 

[Colt55]

blues could run the following lines next year when fully healthy.

Schwartz ror perron
Schenn Thomas kyrou
Sandford bozak/lavoie kostin
Mack barbashev blais

Mikola petro
Scandella faulk
Dunn bouchard / boots

Winnington husso

 

[ElPrimeTime]

You know a lot of people are thinking this is fair. I'm surprised. Yes it hurts from both teams but it also does the following.

For blues
1) opens up 5.5 mil in cap to sign petro, dunn, schwartz
2) blues get a high ceiling rhd prospect similar to petro on elc to take #2rhd when faulk is gone and can play 3rhd next year
3) blues get an offensive minded young center ready to make team next year also on elc.
4) blues can pick at 14 and get a highly toated bluechipper of thier xhosing while also picking at 26 to fill in hole of our farm.

For edm
1) they get the beast in parayko to pair with Kieffer. And nurse can have Larson for shut down. Edm defense just became solid.
2) you get alexandrov whom is a good defensive center projected at mid 2c high 3c and will be ready in another year and can replace losing lavoie.
3) parayko is home town boy and would most likely resign in edm for a good freindly deal.


this is a true win win. Situation and only happens if petro agrees to resign long term.
3)

Fax in the paperwork!

 

[Fatass]

Parayko’s trade value is about as big as he is. It’s massive. Multiple top prospects and (or) high picks. D men like him don’t grow on trees. Heck he is the tree!

 

[Spektre]

blues could run the following lines next year when fully healthy.

Schwartz ror perron
Schenn Thomas kyrou
Sandford bozak/lavoie kostin
Mack barbashev blais

Mikola petro
Scandella faulk
Dunn bouchard / boots

Winnington husso

Somehow you're missing Tarasenko, Sundqvist, Gunnarsson, & Steen

 

[Colt55]

Fax in the paperwork!

Gotta make sure petro is resigned first.

 

[Colt55]

Somehow you're missing Tarasenko, Sundqvist, Gunnarsson, & Steen

Steen is bad and injured tarasenko is injured. Yeah i did miss sudnquvist my bad. Rather have him over sandford. Gunnerson is bad would be good to lose. I'm just spittin some lines.

If this trade was to take. How would you do the lines knowing steen snd tank are injured

 

[Colt55]

Somehow you're missing Tarasenko, Sundqvist, Gunnarsson, & Steen

Somehow you're missing Tarasenko, Sundqvist, Gunnarsson, & Steen

I did put fully healthy lol. Been a long day my bad

 

[DougGilmour93]

No, your proposal isn't crap because you are a Leafs fan.

It's just a crap proposal regardless who offers that.

You realize you offered:

a pick that won't help them for years...If they draft well. Draft poorly and it's wasted completely.
A 3rd line depth player
A 3rd pairing D
A AHL forward who might not have an NHL future.

It's crap.

No. It isn’t. Your perception of talent is crap.

I offered them a 15th overall pick in a deep draft (which would be highly coveted.

I offered them a 2nd/3rd line winger or a 2nd/ 3rd line Center

I offered them our best RHD prospect who is a former 1st rounder and who is developing quite nicely and is ready for the big show.

I offered them a C level prospect with offensive upside who may need a change of scenery and a better opportunity to crack into the league.

The OP didn’t want much salary back. If he did I was willing to offer the likes of Nylander +

 

[Spektre]

Steen is bad and injured tarasenko is injured. Yeah i did miss sudnquvist my bad. Rather have him over sandford. Gunnerson is bad would be good to lose. I'm just spittin some lines.

If this trade was to take. How would you do the lines knowing steen snd tank are injured

I don't think the deal works.

Let's pretend (will be a theme of this post) your deal is finalized of Parayko + Alexandrov for the 1st, Bouchard, and Lavoie. Both Bouchard and Lavoie are in the minors and you want to sign Pietrangelo. Again let's pretend you can sign Pietrangelo for 8x8. You now have a 22 man roster and the cap hit is $78,846,904 leaving $2,653,096 in space.

That's Schwartz, ROR, Perron, Kyrou, Thomas, Tarasenko, Schenn, Sanford, Bozak, Blais, Barbashev, Sundqvist, MacEachern, Steen, and De La Rose on forward. You have Scandella, Pietrangelo, Gunnarsson, Faulk, and Bortuzzo on D with Binnington and Husso.

You still have to sign Dunn and he might be closer to 3 million. Even if somehow you can sign him to 2 million because he doesn't have arbitration rights that only leaves 600k and unless Army has changed his ways he doesn't like being that tight against the cap.

If you wanted the above deal to happen you still need to get rid of a bigger contract like Bozak or Steen etc...

 

[Colt55]

I don't think the deal works.

Let's pretend (will be a theme of this post) your deal is finalized of Parayko + Alexandrov for the 1st, Bouchard, and Lavoie. Both Bouchard and Lavoie are in the minors and you want to sign Pietrangelo. Again let's pretend you can sign Pietrangelo for 8x8. You now have a 22 man roster and the cap hit is $78,846,904 leaving $2,653,096 in space.

That's Schwartz, ROR, Perron, Kyrou, Thomas, Tarasenko, Schenn, Sanford, Bozak, Blais, Barbashev, Sundqvist, MacEachern, Steen, and De La Rose on forward. You have Scandella, Pietrangelo, Gunnarsson, Faulk, and Bortuzzo on D with Binnington and Husso.

You still have to sign Dunn and he might be closer to 3 million. Even if somehow you can sign him to 2 million because he doesn't have arbitration rights that only leaves 600k and unless Army has changed his ways he doesn't like being that tight against the cap.

If you wanted the above deal to happen you still need to get rid of a bigger contract like Bozak or Steen etc...

We will have 3 to 5 mil in ltir. So that wouldn't be a problem. Bouchard is nhl ready per edm writters lavoie is close too. That's 890,000. We could buy out steen. It can work.

So are you saying don't sign petro and keep parayko. Just curios

 

[Colt55]

No. It isn’t. Your perception of talent is crap.

I offered them a 15th overall pick in a deep draft (which would be highly coveted.

I offered them a 2nd/3rd line winger or a 2nd/ 3rd line Center

I offered them our best RHD prospect who is a former 1st rounder and who is developing quite nicely and is ready for the big show.

I offered them a C level prospect with offensive upside who may need a change of scenery and a better opportunity to crack into the league.

The OP didn’t want much salary back. If he did I was willing to offer the likes of Nylander +

Blues have players like johnson in spades. The op ask for no money coming back. How does 2.5 mil cap relief help blues resign thier players. Johnson engval are junk. Liljgren is ceiling top 4 and has had set backs. Per all leafs fans. The only thing of actual value was pick. You low balled and its a bad offet

 

[copperlion]

screw going after Parayko - leafs need more offence

 

[Colt55]

I don't think the deal works.

Let's pretend (will be a theme of this post) your deal is finalized of Parayko + Alexandrov for the 1st, Bouchard, and Lavoie. Both Bouchard and Lavoie are in the minors and you want to sign Pietrangelo. Again let's pretend you can sign Pietrangelo for 8x8. You now have a 22 man roster and the cap hit is $78,846,904 leaving $2,653,096 in space.

That's Schwartz, ROR, Perron, Kyrou, Thomas, Tarasenko, Schenn, Sanford, Bozak, Blais, Barbashev, Sundqvist, MacEachern, Steen, and De La Rose on forward. You have Scandella, Pietrangelo, Gunnarsson, Faulk, and Bortuzzo on D with Binnington and Husso.

You still have to sign Dunn and he might be closer to 3 million. Even if somehow you can sign him to 2 million because he doesn't have arbitration rights that only leaves 600k and unless Army has changed his ways he doesn't like being that tight against the cap.

If you wanted the above deal to happen you still need to get rid of a bigger contract like Bozak or Steen etc...

Parayko makes 5.5 so yes i think we need to move some more players out. Or not sign petro

 

[Gurglesons]

I can't see the Blues moving out Parayko on top of losing Bouwmeester and potentially Piets. That is literally putting a sword through their competitive advantage that their entire squad has been based on four the last five or six years.

 

[13pacheco31]

He is 3rd in his draft class in points. He ain’t just coasting off junior career. Nice try.

And that's suppose to mean something?

 

[rumrokh]

I can't see the Blues moving out Parayko on top of losing Bouwmeester and potentially Piets. That is literally putting a sword through their competitive advantage that their entire squad has been based on four the last five or six years.

The context of the thread is that they'd trade Parayko in order to sign Pietrangelo.

 

[Colt55]

And that's suppose to mean something?

No but his play on the stanley cup winninv team does. We heard the same sheet on parayko. Look at him now. Bill armstrong knows how to draft.

Coyotes made a hell of a hire.

 

[Gurglesons]

The context of the thread is that they'd trade Parayko in order to sign Pietrangelo.

Seems bizarre.

 

[rumrokh]

Seems bizarre.

Parayko is signed for two years and is only three years younger than Pietro. If you can deal Parayko for something good and end up clearing some space in the deal (perhaps by including a cap dump instead of just getting futures for Parayko) in order to sign Pietrangelo, it makes sense.

I'd be concerned they wouldn't get one high enough impact player back for Parayko, but it's not that strange.

 

[Tripod]

No. It isn’t. Your perception of talent is crap.

I offered them a 15th overall pick in a deep draft (which would be highly coveted.

I offered them a 2nd/3rd line winger or a 2nd/ 3rd line Center

I offered them our best RHD prospect who is a former 1st rounder and who is developing quite nicely and is ready for the big show.

I offered them a C level prospect with offensive upside who may need a change of scenery and a better opportunity to crack into the league.

The OP didn’t want much salary back. If he did I was willing to offer the likes of Nylander +

No, you offered absolutely nothing that really matters except the pick. Everything else is filler. Compare your crap offer to:

Bouchard, Lavoie, 14th OA

...that was offered.

 

[zar]

Isn't edmonton paraykos hometown?

he is, but not a guarantee he re-signs. I would be a lot more comfortable if we didn’t have that last year of Neal in the 1st year of CP’s new deal.

Bouchard + Broberg + 14OA + 2021 EDM 1st
for
Parayko + StL 2021 1st

that would get it done. Bro takes sting out of moving Scandella if nec. And Rangers should be able to offer you a fair deal for Broberg.

The Oilers are not including Broberg in that package... it’s Bouchard, Lavoie and 14OA for Parayko and Alexandrov.

Nice try @bernmeister ... I see what you did there, the Rangers aren’t getting Broberg.

I'd do it for Alexandrov. It's a lot of futures from the Oilers, but it's a huge win-now and I would be confident in re-signing Parayko.

I said the same @ElPrimeTime ... it’s a lot of future to give up but because Parayko is a player that I feel we have a good chance at re-signings or a fair deal, it might be worth the risk.... but maybe, in a couple years, we can snag his as a UFA for nothing!

 

[WTFMAN99]

No thats not enough.

I'm as open to ideas as you are.

The salary is a sensitive topic here so trying to get you very minimal salary going back.

15th overall is mandatory
Liljegren is a RHD to get into your system.

I don't know what else we would add that could help you now. Johnsson? Holds it over until Tarasenko is back? I'm seriously all ears. Outside of Matthews, most assets are on the table in this discussion.

 

[MoeBartoli]

I’m pretty sure Parayko would be a Marner return.

More realistic would be Parayko for Wm Nylander.