Online Series: Ozark (Netflix)

tacogeoff

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That was the genius of breaking bad. Walter and Jesse balanced on a thin line in the end, but never quite lost the audience's initial emotional investment in them. Marty and Wendy seem increasingly just plain unsympathetic characters. I'll watch next season, though, if there is one. If there isn't, well, the finale of Season Three isn't a bad ending for the show--quite good, actually.

I would almost put them on a level playing field. For myself personally I found Walt to be an ok character and Jesse was just a plain annoyance on screen. integral to the show but a character I could not care about. I felt more emotionally invested in Saul, Mike, Gus and Hank than Jesse lol.

Marty and Wendy are not that great either and do draw some parallels to Walter and Skyler. The outlandish story is what keeps me interested just like in BB.

Ruth is the new pinkman lol.
 
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Just started this the other day, stuck to 1-2 episodes per night since I'm watching w/my wife who doesn't stay up late and we both work during the day still. I had it on radar for a while and finally started watching since people began talking it up recently. Can honestly say I have no clue what's coming next.
 

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I enjoyed it. It’s very out there and isn’t believable but just enjoy the ride.

A prequel with the Langmore crew would be interesting!
 

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Julia Garner is phenomenal. Watching her makes you realize how well deserved that Emmy was last year, even against the GoT juggernaut. Linney was incredible as well. They both carry the show, but boy does Ruth's story arc make you way more emotionally invested than the other stories.
 
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Totally tired of Ruth and her entire family story.

The guy that played Ben was the best thing this series has ever seen.
 

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Going to start watching this sometime this week w/the wife. Sounds good, is it very realistic or not overly so?

It's not overly realistic but it's a television (or streaming) show. It's meant for entertainment and it certainly is that.

For example, living only about 3-4 hours from Lake of the Ozarks I can tell you they are WAY over dramatizing the "red neck" shtick for that area. Yeah, it's a conservative area but it's not like something out of Deliverance that they play it up to be.

It's a well acted fun ride IMO. I'm not watching it as some kind of documentary or anything.
 
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I'm about three-quarters of the way through this season and I realize, I don't care about any of these characters. They all deserve what's coming to them and the show is a bit unrealistic. How are you going to continue a laundering op when the Feds are camped out at your business? Why doesn't the fed just trace the money utilized to purchase the casino? Wendy is completely oblivious to most of what's going on most of the time. Ruth is way over the top, just dropping F-bombs on the floor of the casino in front of everyone. It would be better if she was able to turn it on and off at times.
 

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Yeah I gotta agree, Ruth's character kinda sucks this year. Way too one-note, volume always on 11.

Laura Linney was great though.
 

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I found season three lackluster. I didn't care for Ben and it was obvious how his storyline was going to end two episodes before it did. Wendy building a rapport with Navarro was too much too soon and Helen was a more interesting character anyhow.
 

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Loved season 3. I do feel some of it's clout is in danger of wearing off, kind of like with House of Cards after an amazing first couple of seasons. I think they should try to end things well with a season 4 and call it quits. I don't think it'll be close to reaching Breaking Bad heights, even though at times it felt like it could. Ruth and Jessie Pinkman sharing screen time would be a lot of fun.
 
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After watching season 3 I think this is one of these shows that should have ended in two seasons. It's just drawing out and many aspects of the show are too far stretched. Ruth's vulgar shtick gets really old after three seasons. There are good portions of it but it was a chore to get through, had we not been on lockdown I probably don't finish it. Season 1 was really good but it's so challenging to keep the momentum going, and frankly, I don't care about any of these characters.

Ben was good and the only thing that you really felt was authentic in terms of his mental illness. It was painful to watch him go through it.

Continuing to launder money while the FBI is camped out at the casino is ridiculous. It is the #1 show on Netflix right now but I think many people are just starting it.
 

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Just finished season 3. I enjoyed it more than season 2. The Snails were way too cartoonish or outlandish as characters. This series does a wonderful job at creating tense moments. The actor who played Ben did an amazing job. It did have me thinking, I haven't had encounters with people who suffer from bipolar disorder (or mental illness) but I couldn't help to think that this was not really an accurate portrayal or super exaggerated, am I wrong? I obviously imagine it's a case by case basis where it depends on the individual (Ben's reactions were violent AF) but that's all I could think during the scenes where he'd have such instances. That one scene in episode 8 (I think?) is super powerful though. All in all, I was hoping that it'd the other way around for the ending.^

The Byrdes' should have been the one to get killed, would have made for a strong ending, one I believe hasn't been done in any show? (Haven't watched GoT so coud be wrong) I find Helen was a smarter adversary and deserved to win more than the Byrdes.
 

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I feel like it really went downhill in season 3, there's just not really any clear objective anymore to root for the main characters to achieve.

In season 1 it's all about setting up the businesses to launder the 8 million. In season 2 it's about getting the casino. Season 3 it's not particularly very clear and they just become a really annoying squabbling couple constantly undermining and backstabbing each other. The Ben stuff was quite powerful but ultimately I don't really see what the point of him was, nor did I like how he became a love interest for Ruth who to this point has been completely her own person and mostly desexualised, and was a better character for it.

I also agree with a previous post about how it's ridiculous how many people know. Maybe I'm not the most well-versed in legal stuff but come season 3 how the FBI don't have enough on them to shut them down seems ludicrous, they're constantly around and they know exactly what's going on but don't really do anything about it. At least in earlier seasons you had agent Petty just mostly working on his own and it created tension as to whether there would be an incriminating slip-up which would have consequences, and you'd be on the edge of your seat during those conversations he was listening in on wondering if he would get something. Now they've got this huge operation and just do nothing and it amazes me how Marty and Wendy have created the "brand" when it's so obvious what they are and the FBI know so much that at least some of that stuff should be out in the public circulating as rumours which wouldn't make it possible for them to host these functions and starting charities.

They seem untouchable now and it takes away a lot of the tension and actions don't seem to have consequence. What made Breaking Bad so great was how secretive Walt had to be and how everything he did would have consequences and the smallest slip up could get him in trouble or risk his family finding out at least. It was also much more interesting having Hank being on Walt's trail and trying to find out who Heisenberg actually was, than this where the law enforcement know all about who they are and exactly what they're doing but never seem to do anything about it apart from that one time they raided the house. While I'm here I'll throw in a Game of Thrones later seasons dig as well, character actions just didn't have consequences anymore, unlike in the earlier seasons.
 

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After being kidnapped you think Marty would be rearing to cut a deal with the FBI. It doesn't seem like Marty or Wendy have any thought in the world for their kids. The thought they can get away with it all while keeping the cartel happy vanished long ago. This season should have been about an exit strategy.
 

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I feel like it really went downhill in season 3, there's just not really any clear objective anymore to root for the main characters to achieve.

In season 1 it's all about setting up the businesses to launder the 8 million. In season 2 it's about getting the casino. Season 3 it's not particularly very clear and they just become a really annoying squabbling couple constantly undermining and backstabbing each other. The Ben stuff was quite powerful but ultimately I don't really see what the point of him was, nor did I like how he became a love interest for Ruth who to this point has been completely her own person and mostly desexualised, and was a better character for it.

I also agree with a previous post about how it's ridiculous how many people know. Maybe I'm not the most well-versed in legal stuff but come season 3 how the FBI don't have enough on them to shut them down seems ludicrous, they're constantly around and they know exactly what's going on but don't really do anything about it. At least in earlier seasons you had agent Petty just mostly working on his own and it created tension as to whether there would be an incriminating slip-up which would have consequences, and you'd be on the edge of your seat during those conversations he was listening in on wondering if he would get something. Now they've got this huge operation and just do nothing and it amazes me how Marty and Wendy have created the "brand" when it's so obvious what they are and the FBI know so much that at least some of that stuff should be out in the public circulating as rumours which wouldn't make it possible for them to host these functions and starting charities.

They seem untouchable now and it takes away a lot of the tension and actions don't seem to have consequence. What made Breaking Bad so great was how secretive Walt had to be and how everything he did would have consequences and the smallest slip up could get him in trouble or risk his family finding out at least. It was also much more interesting having Hank being on Walt's trail and trying to find out who Heisenberg actually was, than this where the law enforcement know all about who they are and exactly what they're doing but never seem to do anything about it apart from that one time they raided the house. While I'm here I'll throw in a Game of Thrones later seasons dig as well, character actions just didn't have consequences anymore, unlike in the earlier seasons.

To me it's pretty obvious that the FBI knows 100% exactly what the Byrd's are doing but in the court of law it's all about proof and it appears they don't have the proof they want/need to actually make a move on the arrest. I mean, the FBI lady (sorry can't remember her name) knows (correctly) where Marty was during his absence. So it's not like they don't know, it's just that they don't have the documented proof that they need.
 

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Fantastic series, excellent entertainment.
Season 4 should be a beauty.
 

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After being kidnapped you think Marty would be rearing to cut a deal with the FBI. It doesn't seem like Marty or Wendy have any thought in the world for their kids. The thought they can get away with it all while keeping the cartel happy vanished long ago. This season should have been about an exit strategy.

Marty and Wendy both keep saying this is all for their family and their safety, but they both just want to accomplish their own agendas. Marty wants to win at a game that he's made up in his head and Wendy just wants to amass political power and be a big deal. Both of these are quite blatantly admitted (Navarro says as much about Marty to Wendy, Ben about Wendy to herself and she admits it). They're in this for their own selfish reasons - it's why they don't ever take any of the obvious outs (the FBI deals, escaping to the Gold Coast, etc.).

Also, why the f*** haven't they just had the cartel take out Darlene yet? All she does is cause problem after problem and she serves no purpose to them anymore. She should've been killed the second she shot Del. She's become too much of a liability but she may have now amassed too much power and hold for that to be easy. I don't get the logic at all behind them leaving her alone.
 

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