Online Series: Ozark (Netflix)

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    Latvian-in your spoiler tag point, yea, that issue would have been taken care of almost immediately after their asset was determined to be missing and where the last known location was. Resolution now will be slightly more difficult but still accomplishable for the group.

    I find it hard to root for anyone in this series; there is no one on any side really. None of the byrdes even Jonah, obviously none of the criminal orginizations, and none of the Feds have ultimately been rootable( Maya may change this, but I doubt it).
     
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    Tom Pelphrey. I only knew him from Iron Fist...he was great in that too an was the main reason I kept watching. I remember being shocked that he wasn't in more things because he is clearly a gifted actor. Was always hoping I'd see more of him, so I was excited when he showed up in Ozark...and did he ever deliver. Episode 9 almost felt like it was a different show because of how good he was. Definitely hope this was a breakout role for him.
     
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    One more episode and I'm all caught up! Could see things going any number of ways in the s3 finale...
     
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    i disagree as marty planned the escape which got vetoed by wendy... who developed into the true antagonist. they are in it because she likes to manipulate... she showed true cold blood behaver like heisenberg in season 3. marty and the kids are passenger at this point. i remember getting really upset when she fiddled her second casino idea to navarro like nerd trying to impress his teacher. dont forget she let her brother die so she could play on... it was never about the safety of her fam.... its clear the show likes woman in powerful possessions my guess is we will see more manipulating from her in s4.
     
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    End of S3.E7.

    Wyatt to Ruth: Who's that?
    Ruth: Ben
    Wyatt: Are you sure he's not too old for you?

    :laugh:
     
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    I think that's a little misleading. They did pretty much everything they could do to save the guy and he just kept f***ing it up. The issue was taking him in in the 1st place. It really came down to her brother or them at that point.
     
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    They're in this from the beginning because Marty never really backed down from Del. He felt threatened but he also saw the laundering as a game, a challenge, something he could win at.

    Remember that Wendy's first reaction was to escape. They're taking turns being the driving force moving them forward. Neither are innocent at all when it comes to staying in.
     
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    from my perspective, everything u can do means to pack ur shit and move away because a family member is about to die. not only did she let her brother die, she even guided the plot to kill him. saving her brother meant to give up her precious casino patron live which she was not willing to do. she showed her true colours with that decision.

    the idea to launder money at this lake/continue to work for the cartel was a desperation idea from marty as he proposed it when dell had him at gunpoint. he is a numbers guy nothing more nothing less. he planed the escape for his fam with the fake ids and the second time with the plane. - he wants out. wendy developed and now she runs this biz. the way she formed relationships in politics or navarro... or how she went out of her way to take the baby away from darlene... she wanted to wield the power not to safe the child.
     
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    They should have packed up and went into hiding long ago but that's another discussion
     
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    What is with Marty getting the FBI on the side of the cartel then?
     
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    again marty came up with the idea under torture captivity by navarro(the worst episode of the show).
    as i see it... he wanted to use her as an out but under his conditions, they were in a negotiating phase when his wife steamrolled that opportunity. i must admit i dont understand the role of the fbi in all this completely.
     
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    I thought he was trying to compromise her..... which was really a stretch.
     
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    I definitely got some Breaking Bad vibes in the sense that drug money is a constant theme of the show. Bateman, and Cranston both play characters that you would never imagine would have links to the cartel.

    The mood, and atmosphere of the shows are similar enough.

    Sure, one character was a manufacturer, and another is a launderer, but there is even some overlap in that regard if we recall the car wash facility in BB.

    That being said, I only started season 3 so far, so I can't comment on what's happened beyond that.
     
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    I got serious BB vibes from the first episode or 2. Not that it's a ripoff, but some parts of the plot or storyline are similar.
     
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    Ben was the highlight of the season and possibly the entire show. As mentioned, S3E9 was just so good.

    Agreed. This is where the line would be drawn for me. At some point things get so bad you have to go the fake identity/run route. They did a fantastic job of developing Ben's character to make that episode that much more impactful. But I agree. Not in a million years do I do what Wendy did there.
     
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    There’s something funny about all that.

    1. Wendy calls for the hitman, not Helen.

    2. They already set up that the hitman is a “robot”, and there’s the precedent where they didn’t show the therapist being killed, only her wrapped corpse. This is intended to make the audience believe that the same exact thing is happening to Ben.

    3. Wendy asks if the ashes are heavy. An odd thing to ask. Was the body heavy? Marty doesn’t seem overly concerned about any kind of ceremony for the cremation. “We should wait for Wendy.” says Ruth. Nope. He meets the hitman and the corpse at the crematorium. The ashes aren’t put in an urn, but in a plastic bag in a box. Helen never sees the corpse.

    4. Someone had to die to throw off Helen and solidify the loyalty to Navarro. Did Wendy murder someone else? A random stranger? A fat guy? Was the hitman in on it, and is that even possible?

    5. She spends all her time at the Warner Mart parking lot where she was made by the cop and her license plate was taken. She goes right back there for her vodka for some reason.

    It’s outlandish but there were some bizarre elements to the whole thing.
     
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    I've seen the idea of Ben being alive being floated around, but I just can't see a plausible explanation. MAYBE if the hitman didn't know what he looked like. Then as you mention, Wendy kills someone who looks similar, leaves him for the hitman. But because the hitman knew what he looked like then he'd have to be in on it, and it's extremely difficult to come up with a scenario where he'd go along with that.
     
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    That's the part I can't get past.
     
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    I hadn't even thought of that, but wow does that make a ton of sense. You guys are right though, the hitman's involvement is where this goes a bit sideways, but the rest of it is so damn plausible. I even said out loud after Wendy asked if the ashes were heavy that it was a weird thing to ask, but didn't even consider it could be a fakeout. There was something about the conversation between the hitman and the therapist where it seemed there was a moment of, I don't know, realization maybe, but then he killed her anyway. Someone asked him that at one point, maybe it was Ruth, "do you ever get tired of this?", something like that. Well, maybe he IS tired of it. Navarro buying into it too and doing what he did at the end makes it even more complicated. Did he know? or is really just that loyal to the Byrds now and was truly grateful? So. Many. Questions.

    Really liked this season and this show too, really hope it continues.
     
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    Ruth makes a big deal about Wendy not killing someone face to face (like her Dad) and she reacts pretty strongly to that.

    Maybe she did.

    I was trying to think of a scenario that doesn’t involve Ben’s death but still results in a tremendous amount of shame and grief which cannot possibly be faked.

    Murdering an innocent person is the only thing I can think of.

    Oh well, probably looking too hard.
     
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    Just finished S3. Excellent series, can’t wait for S4!
     
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    Last I checked, there is no confirmation of a season 4, but I believe ozark is one of the most watched series on Netflix, so I'm not sure why it wouldn't be renewed by them.

    My best guess is that there will be a season 4, which will likely take a while to release with the whole pandemic, but no guarantees just yet.
     
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    I read somewhere that the show runners envisioned 5 seasons for the show but said it could be anything between 3 and 7 seasons, depending on ratings and Netflix ofc.
     
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    At least they can take their time plotting it out. The son, Jonah, is definitely stepping into Ben’s role, what with almost killing Helen and being in danger of causing the family’s destruction.

    Charlotte has grown into a capable operative, quite the opposite of her younger brother.

    Marty and Wendy grew out of their fight, that angle is over.

    Navarro is looking quite vulnerable. Almost makes you think that he’s the final boss they have to fight for their freedom next season.

    solid Season 3 though. Glad Frank JUNIOR got what he deserved.
     
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    Wonder if the cartel war was a retcon for the lack of muscle in the first 2 seasons, specifically against the Snells
     
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