Confirmed with Link: Owen Tippett contract extension, 8 years x $6.2M

[deadhead]

This Voracek-Atkinson comp needs to just stop. AV wanted Jake gone. Jake was fine with that. He saw AV as what he was. An Atkinson type of return was the best that could be had at the time for a player whose career was in decline and had injury issues.

Much better than giving up assets to get rid of players AV didn't want around.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

‘We need to stop pointing out how they’ve let coaches force them into poor personnel decisions because it’s no longer relevant” is quite a take.

 

[kudymen]

‘We need to stop pointing out how they’ve let coaches force them into poor personnel decisions because it’s no longer relevant” is quite a take.

Why exactly would one want to be reminded of, let alone learn from history?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Voracek xGA/60, xGArel:
2018-19: 2.55, +.12, pp/60: 1.94
2019-20: 2.21, -.11 pp/60: 2.36
2020-21: 2.46, +.45, pp/60: 2.38
2021-22: 2.88, +.06, pp/60: 1.66

Atkinson xGA/60,
2019-20: 2.16, +.20 pp/60: 1.58
2020-21: 2.38, +.03, pp/60: 1.40
2021-22: 2.88, +.18, pp/60: 2.40
2023-24: 2.65, +.41, pp/60: 2.02

Voracek was falling apart physically, Atkinson has bounced back but 2RW offense has to be balanced with below average and declining defense. Basically traded one overpaid player for another, merely shifting the cap hit out an extra year.

Atkinson is a good example of what people are worried about,
Signed 7 year deal in 2017 at $5.75, 7.7% of cap. 6.9% of current Flyers cap.
28 years old first year of contract, 34 last year.
Contract looks worse b/c COVID killed cap increases.

Tippett signed for 7.1% of cap next season, by 7th season ($110M cap, $4M a year increase) might be down to 5.6% or so.
26 years old first year, 32 last year, and he's a lot bigger and stronger than Atkinson.

You are not able to be objective when Voracek is involved.

 

[BritainStix]

You are not able to be objective when Voracek is involved.

This is still one of the funniest moments in hfboards history.

 

[Deadpool8812]

I like OT, but I'm not sure about the contract. Time will tell

Also, are people still bitching about the CA/JK trade? It was the right move then, and it still is. Time to move on

 

[GKJ]

I haven’t read through all of this but an Atkinson-Voracek debate in a contract extension thread for Owen Tippett can only mean one thing: someone’s trying to make a bad faith argument on purpose.

 

[scumpup]

If you go by cap percentage, this is market rate. hopefully he will continue to produce.

 

[landsbergfan]

Seems like he gets most his points at even strength too, or am I imaging that lol

Everyone on the Flyers does right now

 

[flyershockey]

This seems on-brand for them. The AAV is a tad too high and the term is ridiculous. Same shit, different decade.

 

[GKJ]

 

[landsbergfan]

Trade protection is decent at least

 

[deadhead]

Cap is higher than salary last two years, which makes him attractive to rebuilding teams trying to reach the cap minimum without spending real money.

 

[GKJ]

It’s strange that Tippett is not getting a signing bonus in 2026 when the CBA expires but is in each of the other first 5 years

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Ugh. It’s not a disaster or anything, but I really do not like handing out NTCs to anyone short of the Giroux or at least Couturier level. That’s their 6th one of one form or another.

 

[Magua]

Ugh. It’s not a disaster or anything, but I really do not like handing out NTCs to anyone short of the Giroux or at least Couturier level. That’s their 6th one of one form or another.

That was one of Hextall’s best attributes: militantly not giving out NTCs. As soon as Fletcher came in, that went by the wayside.

From the Flyers perspective, they probably get excited when a player demands a NTC. It means they like being a Flyer just so darn much! Character!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

That was one of Hextall’s best attributes: militantly not giving out NTCs. As soon as Fletcher came in, that went by the wayside.

From the Flyers perspective, they probably get excited when a player demands a NTC. It means they like being a Flyer just so darn much! Character!

They love when the players demand a NTC but despise them when they use it.

See: Giroux, Claude

 

[deadhead]

Well, it's only the first four years and limited to 10 teams, likely the teams that wouldn't be trading for him anyway (bottom feeders).

 

[Petr Svoboda Mullet]

Cap hit seems fine. Not crazy about the term.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

Could be peaches could be dog food, point is you can live like a king eating outta the dumpster.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Ugh. It’s not a disaster or anything, but I really do not like handing out NTCs to anyone short of the Giroux or at least Couturier level. That’s their 6th one of one form or another.

10 team list is fine. Still feel this is 2 years too long

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Lol come on, there is zero reason to be giving Tippett an NTC

 

[bennysflyers16]

Don't love the years, but pretty hard to dedicate my hatred to this deal.

 

[tictactoe]

I'd be happy with 5 year deal at this point..

 

[trostol]

Realistically...unless a bonafide star..they shouldn't be giving out contracts longer than like..3 years