Owen Sound Attack 2022 Off-season Thread

[AttackBeacher]

I'm not a big fan of this "we need a big physical shut down D man" theory. People seem to think that is what Woolley and Chibrikov were last year. Really? Watch the Flint series again. How did that work out? They were both too slow vs the likes of Ohhtmann, Piercy, Lombardi etc. We need quick, puck moving D who can get to loose pucks and send the forwards north quickly. With this fwd group I think you will see some of the offensive D start to join the rush more and become part of the offense. This team is going to be playing in the other teams end a lot this year. So I see Sedley, Uens, Schweingruber, and maybe Rogers playing more impactful roles this year.

Steen will be a physical presence this year. Thacker has the size and ability for that role as well if he can earn a spot.

I honestly feel that Jordan or Okitundu are the odd men out if they keep Seed around. Also not a big fan of keeping an OA D man if he is not head and shoulders above the other D. OA D need to be contributors. One could argue we didn't have that last year either with the departure of Perrot. Wooley was a great leader and part of the community but was never the same after the fight.

Don't think your wrong about Woolley, but I do think that Perrott was the perfect OA D, he was tough as nails but also moved the puck. I also agree with Seed but see no harm in starting the year with him, he had a 10/15 game set last year where he looked like a player, then got hurt and was not the same.

 

[KFawcett]

I'm not a big fan of this "we need a big physical shut down D man" theory. People seem to think that is what Woolley and Chibrikov were last year. Really? Watch the Flint series again. How did that work out? They were both too slow vs the likes of Ohhtmann, Piercy, Lombardi etc. We need quick, puck moving D who can get to loose pucks and send the forwards north quickly. With this fwd group I think you will see some of the offensive D start to join the rush more and become part of the offense. This team is going to be playing in the other teams end a lot this year. So I see Sedley, Uens, Schweingruber, and maybe Rogers playing more impactful roles this year.

Steen will be a physical presence this year. Thacker has the size and ability for that role as well if he can earn a spot.

I honestly feel that Jordan or Okitundu are the odd men out if they keep Seed around. Also not a big fan of keeping an OA D man if he is not head and shoulders above the other D. OA D need to be contributors. One could argue we didn't have that last year either with the departure of Perrot. Wooley was a great leader and part of the community but was never the same after the fight.

I'm not going to disagree with you at all. Wooley and Chibber were however our shutdown guys. I love both but you are right in your assesment and that is one of the reasons why we were 6th in the conference. I expect more this year I expect top 4 in the conference. Maybe Steen for one can take the role I just worry that it's a big ask for an 18 yr old sophmore to step up and shut down NHL ready fwds which there are always a few in the league. If a couple of D prospects prove me wrong there are times were I enjoy the taste of Crow and will gladly feed on it. I can't wait for camp to start and see how hard everyone worked over the summer because if anyone didn't work hard over the summer they could find themselves on the outside looking in.

 

[OSAttackFan88]

I'm not going to disagree with you at all. Wooley and Chibber were however our shutdown guys. I love both but you are right in your assesment and that is one of the reasons why we were 6th in the conference. I expect more this year I expect top 4 in the conference. Maybe Steen for one can take the role I just worry that it's a big ask for an 18 yr old sophmore to step up and shut down NHL ready fwds which there are always a few in the league. If a couple of D prospects prove me wrong there are times were I enjoy the taste of Crow and will gladly feed on it. I can't wait for camp to start and see how hard everyone worked over the summer because if anyone didn't work hard over the summer they could find themselves on the outside looking in.

Sedley gets exposed a lot for how slow he is, or how lazy he is back checking after a rush. He is decent offensively but a liability on the backend

 

[Stellar29]

Sedley gets exposed a lot for how slow he is, or how lazy he is back checking after a rush. He is decent offensively but a liability on the backend

Sedley will be the top D to start the year. His best defense is his offense and skating ability. He's going to require a partner that helps with his deficiencies in his own zone. Steen, Jordan and Okitundu should all be candidates with Steen being the front runner in my opinion. I think if you look at the D roster going into camp the pairs will likely feature an offensive D paired with a more defensive minded D. Something such as:

Sedley - Steen
Schweingruber - Jordan
Uens - Okitundu

Obviously camp is looking to be highly competitive this year and I wouldn't be shocked to see a surprise or two. I'm hoping for big things from Uens. I thought he really impressed as a 16 year old last season. He skates very well and showed good instincts offensively. He didn't back down from anybody and in my opinion has the ability to be a stud on the back end for the Attack.

 

[AttackSound]

Sedley will be the top D to start the year. His best defense is his offense and skating ability. He's going to require a partner that helps with his deficiencies in his own zone. Steen, Jordan and Okitundu should all be candidates with Steen being the front runner in my opinion. I think if you look at the D roster going into camp the pairs will likely feature an offensive D paired with a more defensive minded D. Something such as:

Sedley - Steen
Schweingruber - Jordan
Uens - Okitundu

Obviously camp is looking to be highly competitive this year and I wouldn't be shocked to see a surprise or two. I'm hoping for big things from Uens. I thought he really impressed as a 16 year old last season. He skates very well and showed good instincts offensively. He didn't back down from anybody and in my opinion has the ability to be a stud on the back end for the Attack.

What about Seed ???

 

[Stellar29]

What about Seed ???

I don't see him on the team unless he blows the doors off in camp. In my opinion, if he doesn't earn a top pair role, he doesn't deserve a spot over the younger players. I don't personally believe you sit the likes of Uens, Rogers, Jordan or Okitundu in the press box for Seed unless he shows his play warrants it. He's not particularly good in his own zone, he doesn't drive/create a lot of offense, and takes too many undisciplined penalties. If we factor in special teams, Sedley, Uens and Schweinbruber will be his direct competition for PP time. Steen, Jordan and Okitundu will be the PK competition. He has to show to he deserves those roles/opportunities over the competition, at least for me.

In my opinion it just speaks to the quality of talent available to the organization that a player like Seed is a question mark to make the team. It's a good problem to have for Dale DeGray. If Seed does have a strong camp it likely means that one of the other contenders for that roster spot/role are leaving the organization.

 

[Greys]

New lighting in the Bayshore will be a lot brighter. Ice is going in soon. Replacement of ice making equip will keep the ice good right into May next spring! That should be great the way this team skates. Bring on camp.

 

[HockeyPops]

right into May next spring

Love the optimism

 

[OSAttackFan88]

Sedley will be the top D to start the year. His best defense is his offense and skating ability. He's going to require a partner that helps with his deficiencies in his own zone. Steen, Jordan and Okitundu should all be candidates with Steen being the front runner in my opinion. I think if you look at the D roster going into camp the pairs will likely feature an offensive D paired with a more defensive minded D. Something such as:

Sedley - Steen
Schweingruber - Jordan
Uens - Okitundu

Obviously camp is looking to be highly competitive this year and I wouldn't be shocked to see a surprise or two. I'm hoping for big things from Uens. I thought he really impressed as a 16 year old last season. He skates very well and showed good instincts offensively. He didn't back down from anybody and in my opinion has the ability to be a stud on the back end for the Attack.

He gets exposed for rushing to many times causing odd man rushes back the other way.. he rarely hustles back to his D zone. He wouldn’t be my top choice D man in my opinion

 

[KFawcett]

Sedley gets exposed a lot for how slow he is, or how lazy he is back checking after a rush. He is decent offensively but a liability on the backen

Sedley will be the top D to start the year. His best defense is his offense and skating ability. He's going to require a partner that helps with his deficiencies in his own zone. Steen, Jordan and Okitundu should all be candidates with Steen being the front runner in my opinion. I think if you look at the D roster going into camp the pairs will likely feature an offensive D paired with a more defensive minded D. Something such as:

Sedley - Steen
Schweingruber - Jordan
Uens - Okitundu

Obviously camp is looking to be highly competitive this year and I wouldn't be shocked to see a surprise or two. I'm hoping for big things from Uens. I thought he really impressed as a 16 year old last season. He skates very well and showed good instincts offensively. He didn't back down from anybody and in my opinion has the ability to be a stud on the back end for the Attack.

I'm going to point out your quote we don't need a Physical shut down guy with 1 name Matt Stanisz. He was to The Gambler Jesse Blacker what you are wanting for Sam Sedley. A Stanisz type d man is also what I want in my upgrade. Maybe we are on the same page.

 

[Stellar29]

He gets exposed for rushing to many times causing odd man rushes back the other way.. he rarely hustles back to his D zone. He wouldn’t be my top choice D man in my opinion

I think that's fair criticism. He's going to be tasked with filling the minutes Woolley and Chibrikov ate last season. He's the most experienced returning defenseman and in my opinion should get the chance to at least start the season as the top guy, at least until one of the other D shows that they deserve those minutes. It will be up to him to meet the challenge of the role.

 

[Stellar29]

Just looking at camp rosters from 2021 and noticed Thacker was the only 16 year old to advance from rookie camp to main camp and not play last season. Have to imagine he finds his way onto the team this year. Going to be tough to crack the roster on the back end in camp with Caldwell and Young also in the mix. It's going to be a fascinating story to watch play out. I think there will likely be some moves made at the end of camp to accommodate guys who don't make the team. The Attack may not have the star power on the back end but definitely have a bit of an embarrassment of riches in OHL quality talent on D.

https://cdn.ontariohockeyleague.com/uploads/owen-sound_attack/2021/09/01020038/2021-22-Training-Camp-Rosters.pdf

 

[KFawcett]

Just looking at camp rosters from 2021 and noticed Thacker was the only 16 year old to advance from rookie camp to main camp and not play last season. Have to imagine he finds his way onto the team this year. Going to be tough to crack the roster on the back end in camp with Caldwell and Young also in the mix. It's going to be a fascinating story to watch play out. I think there will likely be some moves made at the end of camp to accommodate guys who don't make the team. The Attack may not have the star power on the back end but definitely have a bit of an embarrassment of riches in OHL quality talent on D.

https://cdn.ontariohockeyleague.com/uploads/owen-sound_attack/2021/09/01020038/2021-22-Training-Camp-Rosters.pdf

Collingwood Blues just moved Conner to Oakville for 2 players. Smart move on there part? They get 2 players for a player they may not have. Watching that video almost any other year he would have been on the team. I can't wait for camp to start.

 

[Stellar29]

Collingwood Blues just moved Conner to Oakville for 2 players. Smart move on there part? They get 2 players for a player they may not have. Watching that video almost any other year he would have been on the team. I can't wait for camp to start.

I think the 6'4" and 205lbs frame with what appears to be a decent two way game is too enticing to pass up if he has a good camp. I'm excited to see the camp rosters and get things rolling. The ice is freshly painted and ready to go!

 

[OSAttackFan88]

I’m really excited about this years team but I’m also nervous about that dreaded sophomore jinx for a lot of the second year players.

 

[Kristina Hazzard]

Here how i see your roster

LW	C	RW	LD	RD	G
Barlow	Petrovsky	Goure	Schweingruber	Sedley	Chenard
Lawrence	Guindon	Burroughs	Seed	Uens	Votary
Bonaiuto	Bryant	Fantino	Okitundu	Steen
Tersigni	Cormier	Chafe	Rogers
Morey	Key		Jordan

 

[AttackSound]

Here how i see your roster

LW	C	RW	LD	RD	G
Barlow	Petrovsky	Goure	Schweingruber	Sedley	Chenard
Lawrence	Guindon	Burroughs	Seed	Uens	Votary
Bonaiuto	Bryant	Fantino	Okitundu	Steen
Tersigni	Cormier	Chafe	Rogers
Morey	Key		Jordan

Well will see how the lines shake out this season.

Typically the lines don't work themselves out until we get a month into the season, and guys get a chance to build chemistry. A lot of the time lines are mixed up for the first few games to try and get a look at what the coaching staff has.

Schweingruber is one that I wouldn't get sold on yet until we see him in camp, not because I don't believe he'll come over to play but more will he be worth a premium spot on the roster.

Morey and Key maybe in the realm of possibilities but once again will they be in the teams plans well that will come down to what the depth chart will look like. Fantino will be a bit of a puzzle box this season he should be in the mix to stay in the depth chart. I think will see Rogers rotate around on the backend this year as we will a fair bit of defensive depth.

Lawrence and Bonaiuto will be interesting to see if both come back healthy they could be good depth players but are realistically a 17-19yo sophomores with still unknowns on their potentials. Beyond that there's always long-shots that were in last years camp who could surprise the team and take a spot.

This is what training camps is all about, what ifs and surprises. Hey ask Sean Durzi about surprises right.

 

[OSAttackFan88]

Well will see how the lines shake out this season.

Typically the lines don't work themselves out until we get a month into the season, and guys get a chance to build chemistry. A lot of the time lines are mixed up for the first few games to try and get a look at what the coaching staff has.

Schweingruber is one that I wouldn't get sold on yet until we see him in camp, not because I don't believe he'll come over to play but more will he be worth a premium spot on the roster.

Morey and Key maybe in the realm of possibilities but once again will they be in the teams plans well that will come down to what the depth chart will look like. Fantino will be a bit of a puzzle box this season he should be in the mix to stay in the depth chart. I think will see Rogers rotate around on the backend this year as we will a fair bit of defensive depth.

Lawrence and Bonaiuto will be interesting to see if both come back healthy they could be good depth players but are realistically a 17-19yo sophomores with still unknowns on their potentials. Beyond that there's always long-shots that were in last years camp who could surprise the team and take a spot.

This is what training camps is all about, what ifs and surprises. Hey ask Sean Durzi about surprises right.

Why do you have to shit on everyone’s opinion?

 

[KFawcett]

I’m really excited about this years team but I’m also nervous about that dreaded sophomore jinx for a lot of the second year players.

I definitely hear you on the sophomore thing.It didn't appear from the U18 or World Jrs that Colby or Servac are going to suffer. With the # of sophomores thats acually scary if it was a big thing lets pray it doesn't exist.

 

[Stellar29]

I definitely hear you on the sophomore thing.It didn't appear from the U18 or World Jrs that Colby or Servac are going to suffer. With the # of sophomores thats acually scary if it was a big thing lets pray it doesn't exist.

I don't think it's anything to worry about. I think the big skill guys like Guindon, Barlow, and Petrovsky will continue to improve. Could be more of an issue further down the depth chart. Example, I think Fantino and Bonaiuto are good players but will be pressed by the depth of the organization if they don't perform.

I didn't realize Petrovsky was so young. He just turned 18 in early August. He looked really good in the world junior tournament and I think he's going to have a big year. I really like his tool kit and the competitiveness he brings every night.

 

[OHL Prophet]

Here how i see your roster

LW	C	RW	LD	RD	G
Barlow	Petrovsky	Goure	Schweingruber	Sedley	Chenard
Lawrence	Guindon	Burroughs	Seed	Uens	Votary
Bonaiuto	Bryant	Fantino	Okitundu	Steen
Tersigni	Cormier	Chafe	Rogers
Morey	Key		Jordan

This is my prediction of what things will look like depth wise to start the season. I have a feeling we might see a few deals being made though.

Log jam of mediocre D on the left side. I believe Rogers plays the right side but put him under left as he likely stands to rotate through a lot.

W	C	RW	LD	RD	G
Guindon	Petrovsky	Barlow	Schweingruber	Sedley	Chenard
Burroughs	Lawrence	Goure	Seed	Uens	Votary
Bonaiuto	Bryant	Fantino	Thacker	Steen
Tersigni	Cormier	Chafe	Rogers
Langdon			Jordan/Okitundu

* Thacker and Langdon are the only two not signed.

 

[AttackBeacher]

Well will see how the lines shake out this season.

Typically the lines don't work themselves out until we get a month into the season, and guys get a chance to build chemistry. A lot of the time lines are mixed up for the first few games to try and get a look at what the coaching staff has.

Schweingruber is one that I wouldn't get sold on yet until we see him in camp, not because I don't believe he'll come over to play but more will he be worth a premium spot on the roster.

Morey and Key maybe in the realm of possibilities but once again will they be in the teams plans well that will come down to what the depth chart will look like. Fantino will be a bit of a puzzle box this season he should be in the mix to stay in the depth chart. I think will see Rogers rotate around on the backend this year as we will a fair bit of defensive depth.

Lawrence and Bonaiuto will be interesting to see if both come back healthy they could be good depth players but are realistically a 17-19yo sophomores with still unknowns on their potentials. Beyond that there's always long-shots that were in last years camp who could surprise the team and take a spot.

This is what training camps is all about, what ifs and surprises. Hey ask Sean Durzi about surprises right.

I think you mean well enough, but most of your posts are just saying posters do not know anything and to wait for the season or game.

With all due respect, thats not how message boards work. You really should consider toning down the condescending posts, I don't think you mean to bring that out here, but it seems like that is how people are taking it, including myself.

 

[AttackBeacher]

This is my prediction of what things will look like depth wise to start the season. I have a feeling we might see a few deals being made though.

Log jam of mediocre D on the left side. I believe Rogers plays the right side but put him under left as he likely stands to rotate through a lot.

W	C	RW	LD	RD	G
Guindon	Petrovsky	Barlow	Schweingruber	Sedley	Chenard
Burroughs	Lawrence	Goure	Seed	Uens	Votary
Bonaiuto	Bryant	Fantino	Thacker	Steen
Tersigni	Cormier	Chafe	Rogers
Langdon			Jordan/Okitundu

* Thacker and Langdon are the only two not signed.

Petrovski	Guindon	Barlow
Goure	Lawrence	Burroughs
Bonaituo	Bryant	Fantino
Tersigni	Cormer	Chafe
Morey
Schweinggruber	Sedley
Seed	Steen
Okitundo/Jordan	Uens
Young/Thacker	Rogers
Chenard
Votary

I could see an 02 forward added during the pre-season or early in the season
I could see George and Langdon signed and re-assigned to local Jr teams
They will need a D upgrade at some point, but Id like to see what this group can do before rushing into things.

This will be a fun year.

 

[OHL Prophet]

Petrovski	Guindon	Barlow
Goure	Lawrence	Burroughs
Bonaituo	Bryant	Fantino
Tersigni	Cormer	Chafe
Morey
Schweinggruber	Sedley
Seed	Steen
Okitundo/Jordan	Uens
Young/Thacker	Rogers
Chenard
Votary

I could see an 02 forward added during the pre-season or early in the season
I could see George and Langdon signed and re-assigned to local Jr teams
They will need a D upgrade at some point, but Id like to see what this group can do before rushing into things.

This will be a fun year.

Carrying 10 D would be a huge mistake in my opinion when they typically only dress 7. Too many young kids sitting in the stands as scratches when they could be playing elsewhere. I'm not sold on the left side as I mentioned earlier. I think Seed is expendable. Not sure why Schweingrubber is being anointed to top pair by many when we have no idea how he is going to fit in yet. His numbers overseas were average at best. Again, If Thacker cracks the line up I think Jordan and Okitundu are on the outside looking in. Thacker and Steen make for the big, physical shut down pair that people insist we need.

 

[AttackBeacher]

Carrying 10 D would be a huge mistake in my opinion when they typically only dress 7. Too many young kids sitting in the stands as scratches when they could be playing elsewhere. I'm not sold on the left side as I mentioned earlier. I think Seed is expendable. Not sure why Schweingrubber is being anointed to top pair by many when we have no idea how he is going to fit in yet. His numbers overseas were average at best. Again, If Thacker cracks the line up I think Jordan and Okitundu are on the outside looking in. Thacker and Steen make for the big, physical shut down pair that people insist we need.

The slashes refer to 1 or the other, not both. I don't see them keeping Jordan and Okitundu and I don't see them keeping Young and Thacker. I see them keeping 8, Rodgers being a late birthday means he can probably be an 8, play him 25 games or so and not hurt him too much.

Schweingruber is there by default, I don't know if this team will have a true top pair LD all year, but Im also not sure that it matters. If you have Uens and Jordan or Okitundo as your bottom pair, that's some pretty good depth.