Out of Town Thread XXXI

[waffledave]

Because Montgomery was clearly fired for conduct and not performance.

I think it may be both.

 

[1909]

I think it may be both.

.... because he put Radulov in the stands...lol...

 

[Adam Michaels]

I think it may be both.

Very possible. Although, as LeBrun said, the league was already aware of it. Which leads me to believe it may be more to do with behind the scenes conduct than his job as a coach.

 

[waffledave]

.... because he put Radulov in the stands...lol...

I know it may shock the Bergevin fanboys but playing .500 hockey, "make the playoffs and hope for the best" is actually not considered to be a success by many people out there.

 

[1909]

I know it may shock the Bergevin fanboys but playing .500 hockey, "make the playoffs and hope for the best" is actually not considered to be a success by many people out there.

Montgomery was not fired because of his team's results... The communiqué-statement from the team is very clear.

Why always mixing out of town news with Habs' stuff totallly unrelated ?

 

[waffledave]

Montgomery was not fired because of his team's results... The communiqué-statement from the team is very clear.

Why always mixing out of town news with Habs' stuff totallly unrelated ?

Because people need to be called out for their shit.

Teams can say whatever they want, but the coaches getting fired are coaches they wanted fired anyway.

 

[1909]

Because people need to be called out for their ****.

Teams can say whatever they want, but the coaches getting fired are coaches they wanted fired anyway.

No. Dallas would not say that if it was not based on facts. If it would be false, the coach could sue them to have attacked him on his personal integrity.

If it was 100% hockey related, it would be so much easier to fire a coach. And there would be no reason to call a cat, a cat.

When and IF MB is fired, it will be based on his record as GM. Same with CJ.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

No. Dallas would not say that if it was not based on facts. If it would be false, the coach could sue them to have attached him on his personal integrity.

If it was 100% hockey related, it would be so much easier to fire a coach. And there would be no reason to call a cat, a cat.

When and IF MB is fired, it will be based on his record as GM. Same with CJ.

Probably true, but I wouldn't put too much money on that either.

 

[Paddyjack]

I know it may shock the Bergevin fanboys but playing .500 hockey, "make the playoffs and hope for the best" is actually not considered to be a success by many people out there.

Funny. However Dallas is 17-11-3 with 37 pts

 

[Tighthead]

When and IF MB is fired, it will be based on his record as GM. Same with CJ.

How can you say this with certainty?

Did you foresee this with Montgomery?

 

[1909]

How can you say this with certainty?

Did you foresee this with Montgomery?

Let's put all the GM's and coaches in the same bag, then.... They are all a bunch of classless, ruthless SOB.... Because that's the way the hockey business has been run since ages with players who were accepting to be abused to keep their job.

As for Montgomery, we don't know the exact reason. Could be anything related to violence, sex, money..??????

 

[waffledave]

Funny. However Dallas is 17-11-3 with 37 pts

They have been very inconsistent. Went on a huge losing streak, then a huge winning streak, then lost like 4 or 5 in a row pretty recently. Not really looking good, they have been terrible except for their big winning streak.

 

[waffledave]

No. Dallas would not say that if it was not based on facts. If it would be false, the coach could sue them to have attached him on his personal integrity.

If it was 100% hockey related, it would be so much easier to fire a coach. And there would be no reason to call a cat, a cat.

When and IF MB is fired, it will be based on his record as GM. Same with CJ.

It's a lot easier to fire a guy who's performance you don't like if they also have off-ice issues.

 

[1909]

It's a lot easier to fire a guy who's performance you don't like if they also have off-ice issues.

Dallas record is pretty good. It's 100% off ice issues.

 

[LaP]

Another coach fired, that makes 4 already. What a season for coaches.

Of this can clean up the NHL of some dinosaurs then it's for the best.

 

[LaP]

They have been very inconsistent. Went on a huge losing streak, then a huge winning streak, then lost like 4 or 5 in a row pretty recently. Not really looking good, they have been terrible except for their big winning streak.

They have a lot of players under-performing too. Seguin is in his prime and on his way for his worst season since his rookie year.

BTW what did the Avs pay for Nichushkin? I would prefer him as depth instead of our trillions smallish bottom 6 guys.

 

[waffledave]

Dallas record is pretty good. It's 100% off ice issues.

They are strong defensively but they can't score at all, and it doesn't make sense with guys like Benn, Seguin, Radulov, Pavelski, Klingberg, etc...

Almost all their wins came from one big streak where they only lost twice in like a month and a half. The rest of the season has been almost only losses.

 

[waffledave]

They have a lot of players under-performing too. Seguin is in his prime and on his way for his worst season since his rookie year.

When you have multiple guys under performing it often points to coaching issues.

 

[LaP]

Looking at the 2017 NHL entry draft and the top 2 picks today are looking bad. Avs and Nucks are laughing hard.

 

[Tighthead]

Let's put all the GM's and coaches in the same bag, then.... They are all a bunch of classless, ruthless SOB.... Because that's the way the hockey business has been run since ages with players who were accepting to be abused to keep their job.

As for Montgomery, we don't know the exact reason. Could be anything related to violence, sex, money..??????

I’m not putting them in the same bag.

Again, why can you say with absolute certainty that it can’t happen. Obviously you have a base of knowledge which precludes you being surprised by Montgomery.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I used to be very high on him, I'd consider taking a chance on the guy, although we'd have to clear some space in Laval I guess.

Edit : He cleared so no chance taken I guess.

 

[Whitesnake]

I know it may shock the Bergevin fanboys but playing .500 hockey, "make the playoffs and hope for the best" is actually not considered to be a success by many people out there.

For real? See, at one point, some fanboy almost convinced me that just having a NHL team should be enough...lol

 

[Chili]

I used to be very high on him, I'd consider taking a chance on the guy, although we'd have to clear some space in Laval I guess.

Edit : He cleared so no chance taken I guess.

Very few waiver claims so far this season. Only remember three (Eric Comrie, Carl Dahlstrom & Nick Shore)

I am surprised that some of the guys who cleared haven't been traded afterwards.

Edit: add Luca Sbisa also claimed on waivers, Winnipeg involved in all 4 claims adding 3 players and losing Comrie

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Very few waiver claims so far this season. Only remember three (Eric Comrie, Carl Dahlstrom & Nick Shore)

I am surprised that some of the guys who cleared haven't been traded afterwards.

Edit: add Luca Sbisa also claimed on waivers

Most team are happy with what they've got depth wise I guess.

 

[Chili]

Most team are happy with what they've got depth wise I guess.

Looking at CapFriendly a lot of teams at 48ish contracts or close to capped out too. They have the trades listed over there as well and most have been $ for $ contracts.