Out of Town Thread - Part XI

[CapSpace]

I watched puljujarvi play. He reminds me benoit pouliot. Loll

Damn. I hated Pouliot with passion. Is Pulju that bad?

 

[Adam Michaels]

I like this from the Oil's perspective. Talbot is a pending UFA and they needed cap relief. Flyers should have made this deal while Chia was still around, they could have gotten a pick tacked on.

Trading a UFA while shedding about $3.5M in cap space to acquire a younger goalie who is less than $800K and is an RFA at the end of the season, meaning he is under team control. Oilers pretty much did what they wanted to do. They put their eggs in the Koskinen basket.

 

[Runner77]

Damn. I hated Pouliot with passion. Is Pulju that bad?

Reviews are clouded by the fact that he's been mishandled. Some are suggesting he's a third liner, has a low hockey IQ. Which is why he has to be a buy low or forget about it. I know he's only 20 but if there are red flags, let someone else pony up.

 

[Runner77]

Trading a UFA while shedding about $3.5M in cap space to acquire a younger goalie who is less than $800K and is an RFA at the end of the season, meaning he is under team control. Oilers pretty much did what they wanted to do. They put their eggs in the Koskinen basket.

That's quite the set of twin towers they got going with Koskinen and Stolarz.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Reviews are clouded by the fact that he's been mishandled. Some are suggesting he's a third liner, has a low hockey IQ. Which is why he has to be a buy low or forget about it. I know he's only 20 but if there are red flags, let someone else pony up.

I agree. This is where I'm unsure on Puljujarvi's qualities, his hockey IQ.

I feel Habs are starting to bring in skill but also players with good hockey sense. But I wonder if that skill set is still worth paying to acquire because they have a lot of players who can read the game properly. So it can balance out Puljujarvi's questionable IQ.

But the argument can be made that he just needs to be put in an environment where he can thrive. The Montreal Finadiens could be a comfortable place for Puljujarvi.

 

[CapSpace]

Reviews are clouded by the fact that he's been mishandled. Some are suggesting he's a third liner, has a low hockey IQ. Which is why he has to be a buy low or forget about it. I know he's only 20 but if there are red flags, let someone else pony up.

I'd still gamble on him but I wouldn't pay that much.

 

[Adam Michaels]

That's quite the set of twin towers they got going with Koskinen and Stolarz.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I wonder if Kotkaniemi can be what Puljujarvi needs to get going.

 

[Runner77]

I wonder if Kotkaniemi can be what Puljujarvi needs to get going.

That's the big quandary. EDM are doing what they need to try and squeeze out what they can out of Puulju's early first round pick pedigree but no one is biting. They'll need to bring the price down if they believe there is nothing further they can do with the player. However, if the offers are too low, they'd be better off holding on the off chance he becomes something worthy.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I wonder if Kotkaniemi can be what Puljujarvi needs to get going.

If the price is right, I’d be up for trying it.

 

[Runner77]

I'd still gamble on him but I wouldn't pay that much.

As a low-cost gamble? You'd have a lot of teams lining up for him. As we've seen from reports this past week, Edmonton believes he's not worth selling low.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

That's the big quandary. EDM are doing what they need to try and squeeze out what they can out of Puulju's early first round pick pedigree but no one is biting. They'll need to bring the price down if they believe there is nothing further they can do with the player. However, if the offers are too low, they'd be better off holding on the off chance he becomes something worthy.

The biggest red flag for me in terms of Puljujarvi is that he couldn’t even produce playing with McDavid.

That’s a pretty big red flag, IMO.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Another aspect of Puljujarvi's contract this year, he is still waiver exempt. So if anything, with all the bodies in the NHL, Habs can send him to Laval for a bit to get some Bouchard fine tuning and then come with the Habs.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The biggest red flag for me in terms of Puljujarvi is that he couldn’t even produce playing with McDavid.

That’s a pretty big red flag, IMO.

does he even play with him tho , hes playing on the third/4th line

Also Claude Julien is a way better coach than anything that ever went to Edmonton

 

[McGuires Corndog]

does he even play with him tho , hes playing on the third/4th line

Also Claude Julien is a way better coach than anything that ever went to Edmonton

Right now? No. But it’s been tried, and he didn’t produce.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Right now? No. But it’s been tried, and he didn’t produce.

2 early to make a ''bust of out him '' sometime a change of Scenario is needed , id give a chance but a low price.

 

[Runner77]

Another aspect of Puljujarvi's contract this year, he is still waiver exempt. So if anything, with all the bodies in the NHL, Habs can send him to Laval for a bit to get some Bouchard fine tuning and then come with the Habs.

Is fine tuning all he needs or is it more of an intervention? It's nebulous, we don't know how much say MB and his staff believe in the player. One thing is certain, the price will have to come down and am not sure Edmonton is willing to do that. Although Pulju's agent has been ramping up the pressure on them.

 

[le_sean]

What’s a fair price for Zadorov? Habs can use the physicality on the backend.

 

[Adam Michaels]

What’s a fair price for Zadorov? Habs can use the physicality on the backend.

I mentioned him as possibly a 2LD to play next to Petry. Eric Engels has mentioned that Habs are looking to upgrade that position. I've liked Mike Reilly lately but Zadorov is younger and brings a physical element. He also hit 20 points last season, which Reilly hasn't done. Reilly has trouble establishing a spot while Zadorov has done that.

I'd be all for Zadorov to Montreal. I would think Reilly would go the other way. Habs will probably need to add a pick in the deal.

 

[Runner77]

I mentioned him as possibly a 2LD to play next to Petry. Eric Engels has mentioned that Habs are looking to upgrade that position. I've liked Mike Reilly lately but Zadorov is younger and brings a physical element. He also hit 20 points last season, which Reilly hasn't done. Reilly has trouble establishing a spot while Zadorov has done that.

I'd be all for Zadorov to Montreal. I would think Reilly would go the other way. Habs will probably need to add a pick in the deal.

If they can build something around Reilly, sure go for it. But, Sakic is on the other side and he makes for a tough bargain.

 

[Runner77]

Another aspect of Puljujarvi's contract this year, he is still waiver exempt. So if anything, with all the bodies in the NHL, Habs can send him to Laval for a bit to get some Bouchard fine tuning and then come with the Habs.

"For a bit" might turn out to be operative words.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Reviews are clouded by the fact that he's been mishandled. Some are suggesting he's a third liner, has a low hockey IQ. Which is why he has to be a buy low or forget about it. I know he's only 20 but if there are red flags, let someone else pony up.

I also don't think he will suddenly pick it up.

I mean Strome was never considered a speed dynamo but you could see him create chances and produce at every level. With Puljujarvi you see insane hockey tools but a clear lack of desire and hockey IQ.

 

[bleuetbio]

A bit surprised that Cam Talbot's value is down to negative. I thought he would brings at least a 2nd rounder . Does Edmonton making space for Bobrovsky? Hummm!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

What if Skinner were the only UFA willing to sign with Montreal? Beggars can’t be choosers. When it comes to signing prime UFAs, Montreal has a poor track record.

I don't see how we could fail with Bergevin's patented "take it or leave it" and "grind equals dime while talent bends the knee" strategies.