GDT: Ottawa Senators at the Toronto Maple Leafs - 7PM - SN - Nightmare on Bay Street - Last Laughs of 2023

[Joeffice]

Maybe 1 of those core players. But they would be really rolling the dice if they move "multiple" core players.

Dump Matthews, he's a scrub.

 

[Agent Zub]

How was the third.? Did we weather the storm or was it even?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Helmets back. Well deserved Korpse.

 

[WallyD]

Maybe 1 of those core players. But they would be really rolling the dice if they move "multiple" core players.

The CAP makes moving CORE players more difficult given that naturally, these top players hold the largest $ value contracts. That said, it would be nowhere near as difficult to move big $ players and get a similar in return if GMs weren't handing out no-movement-clauses (NMCs) like Pez dispensers! GMs snooker themselves and then complain about how hard it is to function in that construct.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Bobby throwing that buyout money around, lol

lol who was on the panel he is referring to?

 

[Senovision]

Dump Matthews, he's a scrub.

We were talking about the Sens core. But I did bring up the fact that the Leafs core hasn't won anything in the playoffs with generational talents. I would dump Marner before Matthews.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I'd say 50/50.

 

[Senovision]

The CAP makes moving CORE players more difficult given that naturally, these top players hold the largest $ value contracts. That said, it would nowhere near as difficult to move a big $ player and get a similar in return if GMs weren't handing out no-movement-clauses (NMCs) like Pez dispensers! GMs snooker themselves and then complain about how hard it is to function in that construct.

I wasn't saying move out multiple core players the "In the wings" guy was. I like our core. Maybe move one out.

 

[Joeffice]

We were talking about the Sens core. But I did bring up the fact that the Leafs core hasn't won anything in the playoffs with generational talents. I would dump Marner before Matthews.

I was just being a smartass.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

But W

 

[WallyD]

Dump Matthews, he's a scrub.

I'd label myself as rabid a Leafs team hater as many Sens fans, but I'd take Matthews (or Marner, or Nylander, or Taveres) on my team any day of the week. Great talented players all, though few players are 'perfect'.

The Leaf's issue, IMHO (in my hating opinion) is not any of those players but the fact they have all four forwards in a CAP system at the expense of a weak defence core and problematic goal tending. Coaching and systems may also be suspect, similar to what Ottawa has faced where the team has no idea how to play effectively as a team. Things breakdown very quickly when they can't win every run & gun game just by outscoring the opposition. This issue is evidenced by their lack of playoff success where individual skills can't overcome well coached teams that easily shut them down and expose defensive flaws.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

 

[WallyD]

I wasn't saying move out multiple core players the "In the wings" guy was. I like our core. Maybe move one out.

Sorry, I wasn't implying you did, just commenting on the general difficulties of moving core players. Don't disagree with you about moving one, or even more. It can be done but difficult to find a matching dance partner - not easy given CAP issues and NMCs mentioned.

Ottawa may have an easier time doing so than Toronto, moving a core player, because generally theirs are younger and have less NMC restrictions in play. Toronto would find it more difficult because of NMCs and larger dollar amounts. IMO, one of those 4 top TO guys has to be moved if they want to better balance their team... so I really hope they don't or can't! ;-)

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Is it still too early to start shitting on Jacques (that defensive genius) & Alfredsson or is that taboo here & it's all DJs fault still. BTW it's good to see all that accountability that Jacques has brought.

Oops.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Uh oh, a dreaded 2 goal lead.

Dreaded for your eternal flames DJ and Dorion.

That page has been turned.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Chi Chi, get the yayo

 

[Alf Silfversson]

So when he comes to the bench the coach coaches him.

C'mon. This is ridiculous. Sure Martin and Alf are coaching the players up but did we really expect DJ Smith's staff to actually do their job? Seems unfair.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Tank with a quiet two points, some dangerous chances, and a nice big hit.

I like the player.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

We were talking about the Sens core. But I did bring up the fact that the Leafs core hasn't won anything in the playoffs with generational talents. I would dump Marner before Matthews.

The Leafs don't have a generational talent. Our generational talent is McDavid.

Matthews is a legit franchise player and a great one. He's added some excellent defense to his game as well. Amazing player but not generational.

Marner is a really good player who needs a change of scenery/attitude. Good two-way guy (when engaged) and very creative. But at $11M he's tough to move. They're locked in until Tavares's contract ends.

 

[DanyHeatley]

Short summary of the game, I missed it

 

[Ice-Tray]

Every time I post it I watch it at least 10 times

This is the first time I’ve watched it. Now I’m sad about all the times I could been that much more stoked…..

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Short summary of the game, I missed it

1st: Bed is shit by the Sens.
2nd: Sens come to life. Batherson is good.
3rd: Bath is even better. Team closes out f***wit, asshat Leafs.

Korpisalo is good throughout.

 

[Ice-Tray]

How was the third.? Did we weather the storm or was it even?

I think you missing periods is a good think for us… Could be good for you too if it’s planned….

lol who was on the panel he is referring to?

The other three, but mostly the bearded dude who went on and on about the leafs, more than the others, seemed like their leaf expert.

It was all pretty sad.

The Darcy and Neiler bit with Chris was actually pretty awesome, so that was a win for the broadcast in my mind. Fewer panel minutes, more legendary player minutes.

 

[SensontheRush]

Tarasenko really stirs the drink. Skilled and tough; he adds a crucial "grind-it-out" pressure dimension to that line with Stutzle and Batherson that is making it so effective. It's scary having Tarasenko chase you down on the dump.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think you missing periods is a good think for us… Could be good for you too if it’s planned….


The other three, but mostly the bearded dude who went on and on about the leafs, more than the others, seemed like their leaf expert.

It was all pretty sad.

The Darcy and Neiler bit with Chris was actually pretty awesome, so that was a win for the broadcast in my mind. Fewer panel minutes, more legendary player minutes.

I had to go play soccer. I usually miss third periods on soccer night d