a lot of what edmonton will do may likely be determined at the deadline... they trade hemsky i could see them drafting RNH, they tarde penner, i could see them drafting courturier, they get a d man back, they don't draft larsson, they get a forward prospect at the deadline (schenn lol) they do draft larsson, etc, etc.
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So there at the same level of skill and skating? Or is Strome better? He's not better, and it's unlikely they are the same level.
You can disagree all you want, but RNH takes hockey sense and vision quite easily.
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assuming we keep all 3 picks, my ideal draft goes
RNH/Country Forest
Jensen
Prince
my preference b/w landeskog and RNH switches semi-daily. I'd be happy with either in the end.
but if we do end up picking first, through lottery or suckage, i think we have to take larsson.
not sure if prince lasts to the 2nd round though. Hopefully this crap about how it's all toffoli keeps up.
RNH/Country Forest
Jensen
Prince
my preference b/w landeskog and RNH switches semi-daily. I'd be happy with either in the end.
but if we do end up picking first, through lottery or suckage, i think we have to take larsson.
not sure if prince lasts to the 2nd round though. Hopefully this crap about how it's all toffoli keeps up.
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Never said I wouldn't 'buddy', but that doesn't make him the best pick, or the most skilled player in his draft class.
27th goal for Lando tonight!!!!! He has most goals by the top three. He missed 14 games because of injury. IMPRESSIVE!!!!!! 
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not to a team that needs a big gritty goal scorer. 0.7GPG is crazy and landeskog's leadership and style of play makes him that much better. If only he was a center.
No way any team other than the Oilers is coming in last place. The only way another team is getting that #1 pick is if they come second last and win the lottery. No one beats us at losing. No one.
Players like Landeskog end up with injury riddled careers. It's a law of nature.
I also wouldn't take someone like Lucic with a 1st overall pick, much as I like Landeskog if we were picking say, 5th.
ThundaLion
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This is how I see it as far as Edmonton and Ottawa are considered. And as was mentioned the Islanders could really use any of the big 4.
SDig14
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It would be a great story if RNH went #1 overall. First WHL player to go number 1 for about 25 years.
Outside shot Islanders don't finish bottom 4(a bunch of teams ahead of them starting to get within range of overtaking and there is always the chance a team leeps over them for the lottery). I am guessing the Islanders finish between 75-80 points
I think he meant to say first WHL forward drafted first overall since Modano in '88.
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I didn't write forward? **** lol... Well, yes, that is what I meant to write. Thankfully, my mistake doesn't diminish it's significance lol
I do think that in the "new NHL" teams are super-high on elite skating Cs. Look back at the 2009 draft, you had 2 super prospects in Tavares and Hedman, but even still there was talk from a lot of scouts about liking Duchene best. He was small and skinny (like RNH), his stats were not exceptional (3rd on his own team in scoring with 79 points in 57 games in the OHL), he was cut from the WJC team, but still the scouts loved him because he was just such a phenomenal skater. I feel like it'll be the same with RNH, and my gut feeling is that no matter who's picking he ends up going top 2.
btw, CSS' official measurements for Duchene were 5'11 200, not sure where that skinny thing comes from. People are trying to hard to validate RNH as far as I'm concerned. You may accuse me for looking to hard to shoot him down. I think people do the opposite to hype him up. Also, 3rd on your team in scoring behind the CHL player of the year and Grachev who was having a superb year has nothing to do with what RNH is going through in Red Deer. All pieces revolve around RNH on offense. Also, Brampton had some crazy defensive play in 09. Red Deer is good defensively but nowhere close.
... btw, one of the last concerns I'd have on RNH are height and weight, he's far from abnormally small
besides, as of now I'd see it go
1 - Edmonton, Larsson ... solid defenseman, fits in every way, I don't buy into the, oh his points have dropped, he's having a bad year. As far as I'm concerned, he's solid defensively with tons of room to grow offensively. I like the upside and what you're getting right now is a day 1 starter.
2 - Ottawa, Couturier ... they may pick RNH there, I would not be surprised, but I think Couturier is BPA at that spot. Best defensive forward of the draft. Great producer offensively. Tons of upside. People always point out how RNH has huge upside. I still think of all forwards Couturier has the higher upside. He's not a sexy player like RNH but he gets it done on a consistent basis. I don't buy into the, he's too big that's why he dominates the Q.
3 - Islanders, Hamilton ... I like Hamilton as much if not more than Pietrangelo a couple of years ago, 3rd best player in the draft in my book and Islanders need a solid top-pairing defenseman.
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Have a feeling. If EDM doesnt take Larsson he will drop.
OTT will look for a Center first, than a winger. (Cowen, Karlsson, Weircoch in the system: start building the forwards)
NYI the same (De haan, Hamonic, etc.) A Winger or Center to build the forward group.
OILERS - RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS
OTTAWA - SEAN COUTURIER
NEW YORK - GABRIEL LANDESKOG
than it gets cloudy.
IF BOS or NJD are picking next - it will be LARSSON
But i could see a guy like Strome sneak in, and be picked higher than anticipated.
BOS/NJD-LARSSON
FLA-STROME
OTT will look for a Center first, than a winger. (Cowen, Karlsson, Weircoch in the system: start building the forwards)
NYI the same (De haan, Hamonic, etc.) A Winger or Center to build the forward group.
OILERS - RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS
OTTAWA - SEAN COUTURIER
NEW YORK - GABRIEL LANDESKOG
than it gets cloudy.
IF BOS or NJD are picking next - it will be LARSSON
But i could see a guy like Strome sneak in, and be picked higher than anticipated.
BOS/NJD-LARSSON
FLA-STROME
NYI wouldn't take Landeskog, they already have Okposo. They take Larsson if he's available. Also, if RNH goes #1, I suspect Larsson goes #2.
I realize the talk about "need" is really interesting, but there is no team in the top 5 that doesn't have plenty of room on their team for anyone of the top prospects.
For instance, both Ottawa and the Isles have some solid defensive prospects, but realistically, neither team has a defensive prospect in Larsson's class in terms of overall two-way ability, and both would love to have him and will have plenty of room for him. And while the Oilers could use a center or a franchise defender based on their lineup right now, there is no doubt that if they like Landerskog as the best prospect they will take him despite their riches on the wing.
For instance, both Ottawa and the Isles have some solid defensive prospects, but realistically, neither team has a defensive prospect in Larsson's class in terms of overall two-way ability, and both would love to have him and will have plenty of room for him. And while the Oilers could use a center or a franchise defender based on their lineup right now, there is no doubt that if they like Landerskog as the best prospect they will take him despite their riches on the wing.
I'd have to say that's not at all how I remember the discussion of Duchene. This is the first time I see him called skinny. To me he seemed at the time stocky, not underweight at all. His speed was certainly an important attribute, but he was also seen as a terrific all-round offensive player. Great finisher, very good passer. In short, already a pretty polished overall performer. As indeed he proved with his rookie season a few months later.
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