Confirmed Trade: [OTT/STL] Zach Sanford for Logan Brown and cond. 2022 4th

[kimzey59]

TBF we’ve been shitting on Sanford since he got here.

A large part of that had to do with who we traded for him(Shattenkirk).

 

[Dr Quincy]

Like this for both teams. As others have stated Blues needed the cap with Tank staying. We also get a local kid with motivation looking to prove himself and possibly an extra pick if he doesn't hit the necessary games.

This could work out for either team, or both, or neither. Not a bad gamble...

but I have to say, I hate the "motivation to prove himself" rationale as why he may be better for StL.

He didn't have motivation as a top 15 pick to work hard?
He didn't have motivation as a guy who was getting passed by other prospects and losing his spot on a team that was willing to give him a shot?
He didn't have motivation as a guy coming off his ELC to work his ass off and be the best he can be so he could make more $ on his 2nd contract?

If it took 5 years to get him to motivate himself then I doubt that he's going to find that motivation now.

If he succeeds in StL, and he might, it will be because of better talent around him and a coach who knows how to use his specific talents... not because he's going to try harder.

 

[JimmyApples]

General consensus I’ve seen on Twitter from media members ranges from good deal for the Sens to absolute steal.

I think Sanford has a lot more value than Logan Brown

 

[BlueOil]

I think Sanford has a lot more value than Logan Brown

if ottawa can teach him consistency and how to avoid 20-30 games of brain dead play, they might have a decent third liner on their hands.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

TBF we’ve been shitting on Sanford since he got here.

def for the last 2 years, and I'll admit I'm one of em

just the definition of frustrating player. past time to move on and give someone else a spot to see what they can do

 

[tstracuzza]

General consensus I’ve seen on Twitter from media members ranges from good deal for the Sens to absolute steal.

I think Sanford has a lot more value than Logan Brown

This. St.Louis fans think they were the winners here? Logan brown is pure trash and made of glass anyways

 

[SIU LAW]

I won't miss Sanford, but he's not as bad as a lot of Blues fans suggest.

He's solid on the PK and he has good offensive skill. He's not rough and tumble, but he doesn't actually shy away from the corners or anything like that. His real issue is that he can't seem to keep things simple. It's not like he's trying to toe-drag everybody, but he often loses valuable time overhandling the puck and isn't hard on pucks when they need to be cleared. Lots of inopportune turnovers because of that.

When he's going full speed, he looks good, but when he has to stop and start, he is slow and lacks balance, so he gets caught standing still or simply falls down. He won't pass up offensive opportunities, though. He's fairly adept at making small plays in traffic, getting open for shots, and getting his shot away quickly. It's just that the whole package isn't there. He doesn't have the strength or balance to be a power forward, he doesn't have the speed or awareness to be a quick-strike forward or a really good forechecker. He's basically a special teams 3rd liner who can play up the lineup in a pinch.

As a Blues fan, I would echo this post. Sanford is a serviceable NHL player, but inconsistent. Not “awful” or “should be out of the league.” If he consistently sustained his “highs,” he would be a more sought after, higher dollar player. But he hasn’t/can’t and is what he is. Serviceable, ok depth; but not a premier player.

Many Blues fans figured he would eventually be the cap causality and here we are. I highly suspect a playoff team looking for NHL depth will make a small deal with Ottawa later in the season for him.

One would think Brown is a project destined for some time in the minors and the Blues sign one if their PTOs in camp.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

if ottawa can teach him consistency and how to avoid 20-30 games of brain dead play, they might have a decent third liner on their hands.

that better be a very talented 3rd line cause Sanford does NOT drive play and is heavily dependent on his linemates

 

[Golden_Jet]

What’s the problem with Brown

skating? Compete? Lack of opportunity?

Mostly skating, compete and injuries, last year one of his injuries was a wonky back.
Skilled guy for a PP though.

 

[Ashrum]

Would ottawa claim him if he is sent down? That would be spicy.

 

[BleedBlue14]

This. St.Louis fans think they were the winners here? Logan brown is pure trash and made of glass anyways

i don’t think anyone is dancing through the streets about Brown. It’s moreso about finally not having to watch Sanford play with Perron and ROR and make awful plays most of the season. Also the cap helps us out

 

[Dr Quincy]

As a Blues fan, I would echo this post. Sanford is a serviceable NHL player, but inconsistent. Not “awful” or “should be out of the league.” If he consistently sustained his “highs,” he would be a more sought after, higher dollar player. But he hasn’t/can’t and is what he is. Serviceable, ok depth; but not a premier player.

Many Blues fans figured he would eventually be the cap causality and here we are. I highly suspect a playoff team looking for NHL depth will make a small deal with Ottawa later in the season for him.

One would think Brown is a project destined for some time in the minors and the Blues sign one if their PTOs in camp.

Has to pass through waivers to play in the minors. A team like BUF or ARI will absolutely take him.

 

[SIU LAW]

Has to pass through waivers to play in the minors. A team like BUF or ARI will absolutely take him.

Ah. Did not realize that.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Ah. Did not realize that.

or if STL doesnt see a spot for him in camp, they could flip him to someone else

not too sussed about Brown.. it's more about the cap space anyways

 

[Altimus]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arizona claim him on waivers if he gets sent down. This could be shades of the Jared McCann trade.

 

[Guttersniped]

General consensus I’ve seen on Twitter from media members ranges from good deal for the Sens to absolute steal.

I think Sanford has a lot more value than Logan Brown

Sanford is a UFA after this season.

He’s helpful, and I guess he could get Ottawa something at the TDL, but if they keep him and he flourishes then they have to resign him.

 

[67Blues]

I look at it this way:

Senators: Zach Sanford
Blues: Robert Thomas cap space, 4th round pick, lottery ticket

 

[RckyMtnBlue]

I would have be fine with a 25th rnd pick...anything to get that slug off our team. The fact I don't have to watch sanford fall all over the ice or turn pucks over in our zone just made my day. A fart could make him fall over. With all that said, I will always remember the few things he did to help us win the cup. His goal in game 7 let me rest easy and his through the legs pass to ROR was sick. I do wish him luck but so glad he isn't on our team anymore.

 

[TK 421]

Klim Kostin is very happy with this trade.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

OTT at the floor now if Tkachuk negotiations go into regular season?

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Can Sanford become Connor Brown 2.0???
Can Logan Brown blossom into the 6'7 number 1C he was touted to be???

I guess we'll find out shortly.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

OTT at the floor now if Tkachuk negotiations go into regular season?

They will sign Ennis to ~1-1.5M and be right there. So yes.

 

[HuGo Sham]

 

[banks]

Win for St. Louis, in my opinion.

 

[Just Linda]

I think I get the trade but I don't get the timing. Why now?