Speculation: Ondrej Palat and Tyler Johnson next contracts

[Steazy Doo]

Hearing Palat and TyJo might actually sign short term deals for somewhere between 3m-4.5m.

Something like Kuch signed. Shorter than people expected for cheaper than we expected.

So basically they're gonna take the same contracts they have now? I find it hard to believe they wont want a little more term after signing a bridge already.

Where are you hearing this from?

 

[Sky04]

Hearing Palat and TyJo might actually sign short term deals for somewhere between 3.5m-4.5m.

Something like Kuch signed - shorter than people expected for cheaper than we expected.

This is just hearsay so take it for what it's worth.

3.5m right...

Yzerman would push for short term, neither of these guys deserve long term deals.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

3.5m right...

Yzerman would push for short term, neither of these guys deserve long term deals.

The cap does seem low but I can definitely see Yzerman going her short.

 

[Steazy Doo]

3.5m right...

Yzerman would push for short term, neither of these guys deserve long term deals.

You would think, but in a world where Killorn was signed for 7 years, Johnson and Palat are getting a bit of term lel

 

[Flat Ronnie]

You would think, but in a world where Killorn was signed for 7 years, Johnson and Palat are getting a bit of term lel

Not necessarily true. He might try to do what he did with Kuch.

 

[Leonardo87]

Hearing Palat and TyJo might actually sign short term deals for somewhere between 3.5m-4.5m.

Something like Kuch signed - shorter than people expected for cheaper than we expected.

This is just hearsay so take it for what it's worth.

Hmm, don't see them taking a bridge deal after coming out of one. Their last two seasons have brought down their value, which is closer to 5 million, and not 6 million, imo. If Killorn got 7 years, don't see them getting anything less in term.

 

[Sky04]

You would think, but in a world where Killorn was signed for 7 years, Johnson and Palat are getting a bit of term lel

4-5 sure, 6+? Oh god.

One bad contract shouldn't be the standard!

 

[Steazy Doo]

Not necessarily true. He might try to do what he did with Kuch.

That was Kuch's first contract off of an ELC.

Johnson and Palat have already signed three year contracts off of their ELCs. I don't want very long-term like Sky said, but there is a difference.

If Yzerman can pull of 3 years again I'll be impressed.

And where did you hear that from, again?

 

[Steazy Doo]

4-5 sure, 6+? Oh god.

One bad contract shouldn't be the standard!

Oh, I agree with you. I'm just preparing myself for the possibility.

More then 3 is a given, I would think.

 

[These Are The Days]

Given how long this is taking I think it's safe to assume that Yzerman has already submitted his "Take it or leave it" offer to both players.

 

[The Gongshow]

Given how long this is taking I think it's safe to assume that Yzerman has already submitted his "Take it or leave it" offer to both players.

This. He's not going to budge. I mean he stood his ground a whole year with Stamkos at 8.5 and he's the franchise.

I will admit our team will be even worse without these two but Yzerman won't blink twice about it.

I do think its taking longer than I thought it would

 

[Todd1a]

Given how long this is taking I think it's safe to assume that Yzerman has already submitted his "Take it or leave it" offer to both players.

Probably he submitted to them a few weeks back Stevie y Is not moving. But arbitration could award more cap hit short term then yzerman wants! But it would avoid us giving them long term deals. Arbitration gives them 1-2 year deals. Palat and Johnny will wait to the last min before arbitration and accept yzermans offer! So they may as well just accept it right now if they want to stay long term in Tampa.

 

[DFC]

This. He's not going to budge. I mean he stood his ground a whole year with Stamkos at 8.5 and he's the franchise.

I will admit our team will be even worse without these two but Yzerman won't blink twice about it.

I do think its taking longer than I thought it would

Arbitration is probably going to throw a wrench into that. Palat has filed. IMO, he has the stronger case too, since he's outproduced Johnson in recent years. Wouldn't be surprised to see Drej wind up with a $6m deal. We might not have to pay Johnson that much, even though he's been by far the better playoff contributor.

 

[Todd1a]

Offer them both 4.75 per year for 8 years keep there cap hits down front load the money do bonuses and stuff come on Stevie.

 

[Leonardo87]

Offer them both 4.75 per year for 8 years keep there cap hits down front load the money do bonuses and stuff come on Stevie.

More snowmans? Think they would settle with 7 years, and about 500k to 750k more than Killorn.

 

[DFC]

More snowmans? Think they would settle with 7 years, and about 500k to 750k more than Killorn.

Doubt we'd be seeing arbitration in that case.

I'm guessing they're both looking for 6+, Yzerman is hanging out around 5, and we're gonna see something like 5.5 in the end, for both. I'm just hoping we keep it under 6 years.

 

[Leonardo87]

Doubt we'd be seeing arbitration in that case.

I'm guessing they're both looking for 6+, Yzerman is hanging out around 5, and we're gonna see something like 5.5 in the end, for both. I'm just hoping we keep it under 6 years.

Well what they are asking for, and what they settle for are two different things of course. May need to tack on a 7th year to keep the AAV down.

 

[The Gongshow]

Offer them both 4.75 per year for 8 years keep there cap hits down front load the money do bonuses and stuff come on Stevie.

I wouldn't give them 8 years. I'd be happy with 6

 

[Cmac66]

Do not know if it has been posted on this thread but palat has filed for arbitration, Johnson yet to do so.

 

[DFC]

Do not know if it has been posted on this thread but palat has filed for arbitration, Johnson yet to do so.

I feel like we would actually benefit from Johnson filing. 2015 was his last/only big regular season. Whereas an arbitrator is likely to award Palat more than we'd want. Good year or bad, Palat's totals always end up around 0.75 ppg, in more/less full seasons.

 

[Todd1a]

Do not know if it has been posted on this thread but palat has filed for arbitration, Johnson yet to do so.

Well yes palat did and johnson had till 5 pm have not heard if johnson did we should know soon ?

 

[Rschmitz]

Hearing Palat and TyJo might actually sign short term deals for somewhere between 3.5m-4.5m.

Something like Kuch signed - shorter than people expected for cheaper than we expected.

This is just hearsay so take it for what it's worth.

Where are you hearing this from?

Palat and Johnson are on their last RFA year, they aren't under team control like Kucherov was so the deals aren't comparable.

 

[Stormbreaker]

 

[Houdas]

I personally believe that the arbitration is not about the money per year but about the length of the contract. I just hope that there will be no love lost

 

[The Gongshow]

So they were probably offered 3-5 and want 6-8 years?